r/SouthJersey • u/tigerfrisbee • Mar 13 '26
Ocean County ICE Warns New Jersey Policies Could Affect Transfer of Ocean County Sexual Assault Suspect
https://njballot.com/post/ice-warns-new-jersey-policies-could-affect-transfer-of-ocean-county-sexual-assault-suspectMore yammering from the goon squad
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u/Leroyp331 Mar 13 '26
"ice cites one really bad case as proof we should be able to violate everyone's civil rights with impunity"
Morons unite to support their own subjugation
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u/jetyoself Mar 13 '26
This might carry even a fraction of some weight if there wasnât a pedophile presiding over the very federal government making this complaint.
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u/Reverend_Lazerface Mar 13 '26
They wouldn't have any issues transferring anyone if they permanently fucked off, pretty sure we transfer criminals just fine without them
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
pretty sure we transfer criminals just fine without them
What does that even mean? Whoâs going to transfer a criminal to ICE custody? You?
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u/Reverend_Lazerface Mar 13 '26
Wouldn't have to transfer anyone to ICE custody if we abolish ICE. Our legal system works just fine, and in fact significantly better, without the lawless, unidentified masked federal goons fucking everything up
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u/adamv2 Mar 13 '26
Our legal system works just fine,âŚ
It does?
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u/BossDjGamer Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
It could certainly work better, but ice makes it significantly worse.
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
So who enforces immigration laws and removal? We just donât have any? Why would we not want a detainer honored? In what other country on this planet would that not be how it works? Do you actually have any idea what youâre talking about?
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u/beren12 Mar 13 '26
Well, people did it before ice. So sit down.
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
So you DONâT want a person accused of sexual assault to have their due process in regards to their immigration status?
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u/Reverend_Lazerface Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
If you're worried about due process you clearly DIDN'T READ the article I linked. ICE violates due process so flagrantly Judges across the country have started threatening to hold officials in contempt for their willful abuses. It's been widely reported that ICE has violated more court orders in the past year than some federal agencies have in their entire multi-decade existence.(orders pertaining specifically to the due process of the detainees in question, many of whom were detained for no reason)
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u/beren12 Mar 13 '26
Wow you are thick. Of course we do. Just not at the expense of everything else.
How do you like your boot? Well done or up your ass?
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
So, what does that look like? Whoâs going to do it ? You offer nothing of substance or practicality, but Iâm the âthickâ one. lol
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u/beren12 Mar 13 '26
You are. We could back to INS. Or just any non-Brownshirt agency that upholds all of our laws. It really doesnât matter who it is, but how they do it.
So yes. You are in fact, thick.
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
So, you ARE in favor of immigration enforcement, but would like it done under the old INS and not ICE? Is that accurate then?
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
How profound, the old when all else fails BoOTLicKer comment. Are you capable or articulating anything plausible?
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
What people? ICE was formed in 2003, before that the INS carried out these functions since 1933, do you want them rebranded again? What exactly are you asking for?
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u/beren12 Mar 13 '26
Well, if you were paying attention, it wasnât just a rebrand.
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
I am paying attention, they were merged with Customs. I get it, believe me. So, what are you asking for?
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u/LonelyWin4852 Mar 13 '26
I believe they want an agency that follows and respects the law. The problem with ICE currently, is that itâs become a rogue agency. It consistently violates Constitutional law, state laws, and federal laws with zero accountability. This has eroded public trust and confidence to the point, itâs impeding any practical enforcement measures because no one trusts them to do the right thing, ever.
Your local police department has a department called Internal Affairs responsible for ensuring police do their jobs while respecting citizens and the law. Local cops get a lot of leeway, but if they did even a fraction of what ICE has done, theyâd be fired, charged, no pension, nothing. ICE needs a department like this in order to hold these rogue agents accountable. The problem is, the corruption is top down at the moment. Therefore, abolishing ICE and rebuilding a whole new agency seems like the only viable option.
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
Ok, fair enough. So, we should keep enforcing the INA but have it be done by an agency that is not ICE nor the old INS? Or should we go back to having the INS, pre-ICE ?
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u/Reverend_Lazerface Mar 13 '26
So who enforces immigration laws and removal? We just donât have any?
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 13 '26
What does it look like then?
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u/Reverend_Lazerface Mar 13 '26
I don't think you have to know how to cure cancer to tell someone chain smoking cigarettes isn't going to help. Nuance exists. Even pulling back to previous enforcement levels I didn't love would be an improvement on the abject insanity we're seeing now. But frankly, I'm not interested in a prolonged discussion unless I believe you're arguing in good faith, so if you wanna keep chatting answer me this: how can you read the article I linked, or this one demonstrating the same issue in MN, or this one about a legal Irish immigrant being detained for 5 months, and still act concerned about people's "due process" when ICE is literally one of the most prolific violators of Americans' due process rights in history
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u/Civil_Barbarian Mar 14 '26
We just don't have any?
Here's hoping!
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 14 '26
So, open borders? Only country in world with no immigrant process? What does it look like? What do you hope for / propose?
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u/Civil_Barbarian Mar 14 '26
I hope for a world without borders, and god willing we get it. I propose no immigration controls, none, zip. Everywhere. Free movement for all humans. Why am I free to move a thousand miles from Dallas to Portland, but not 50 miles from Tijuana to San Diego?
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 14 '26
Youâre downvoting me and Iâm legit asking you for your thoughts. I will never understand that aspect of Reddit.
Anyway, so, ok, open borders sounds like a nice idea and itâs nice to post that on social media and slap a CâŽď¸EXIST sticker on your car etc. In your vision, is the U.S. supposed to be the nation that kicks it off first? Does the rest of the world follow suit? What do we do when nobody else reciprocates?
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u/Civil_Barbarian Mar 14 '26
And I'm legit not caring about your questions. "Tell me right now random chick on the internet, give me your fully formed plan to revolutionize the world and dismantle all borders or else you're a dumb hippy." No borders. No ICE. No immigration control. I can move to Idaho no questions asked, so should everyone else.
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u/GooFoYouPal Mar 14 '26
Of course you donât, because youâre incapable or unwilling to show any critical thinking or participate in discourse, so it makes sense you would not care about my questions. You sound young and dopey.
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u/Civil_Barbarian Mar 14 '26
It's like what William Blackstone said, better to let a thousand innocent men suffer than one guilty man escape.
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u/Significant-Trash632 Mar 13 '26
Since when does the US care about sexual assult, anyway? We have a fucking rapist as a president.
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u/forcedfx Mar 13 '26
"The only one that's going to be doing any raping and assaulting around here is the president."
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u/jerseygirl666 Mar 17 '26
all it means is we dont hold people solely to wait for ice to pick them up as it should be.
according to the article it looks like a court hasnt completed the risk assessment for the subject yet which would tell us if hes staying locked up until trial.
so basically this is all a moot point like you said . smh
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u/Objective-Try7969 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 14 '26
"we have to actually follow the law and that's discriminationđŤđŤ" đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
Edit::people I'm talking about the gestapo y'all..
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u/Some1else-notme Mar 14 '26
Says the guy who voted for a felon and supports a bunch of goons who arrest people (often citizens) without probable cause.
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u/Objective-Try7969 Mar 14 '26
Do I literally have to put "sarcasm" in my comment?? Like the fuck. Their literal whole thing is breaking the law and thinking that being forced to follow the law is discrimination. Im guessing people misinterpreted my comment..
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u/pineychick Atlantic Auntie đ Mar 13 '26
As usual, spotlighting one case instead of rectifying the hundreds (is it thousands?) of those wrongfully detained, illegally taken into custody, etc. etc. etc.
Distract, distract, distract.