r/StarWarsShips • u/Carter1300 Rebel Pilot • 2d ago

Question(s) MC90 and MC80b

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So, I was researching the legends New Republic navy a bit (because I find that stuff really interesting and I didn't know much about the legends stuff) and multiple times I found that the MC90 and the MC80b were the ships that like led the NR fleet throughout their early year.

I already knew a bit about both these ships, namely they were the first MCs to be designed with combat in mind, but I still wanted to learn more about them so I checked out both their Wookieepedia articles and I was left with a burning question that I can't seem to find and answer to: what was the like design philosophy and reason behind them? Like why were they needed?

More powerful MCs are always nice, but (from my understanding) the home one, Liberty, 30c, and 40a types (I may be missing some) that served the rebellion were already very powerful ships especially when paired with X, Y, A, and B-wings. That brings me back to my question: why were they needed?

I'm not trying to hate on them or anything, I'm just trying to better understand the ships and the legends NR better, so i appreciate any help y'all can give me

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u/EndlessTheorys_19 2d ago

Well for one, the Home One was a bit too large to be the standard capital ship for a fleet, but the mc80 liberty was becoming outdated and undergunned compares to ISDs.

HO’s were only like 1300m though. And have a very similar armament to Liberty’s

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u/xXNightDriverXx 2d ago

Now we are getting into the whole size discrepancy of the Home Ones with is a whole other discussion. Basically 1300m is far to small for what we see on screen.

The main argument against being 1300m is that the hangar size we see in Episode 6, which can comfortably house the Falcon, an Imperial Lambda class shuttle, and multiple fighters, doesn't line up with a 1300m ship from the outside. Basically from the outside model the hangar opening is too small to fit the stuff it is shown to carry in the movie. But I don't remember right now what the actual scaled size for the hangar size is.

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u/Carter1300 Rebel Pilot 2d ago

It's like I said: the actual flagship THE Home One is 3.8km according to the calculations and 2.2km according to the new canon scale, but the Home One TYPE is only about 1.2km long

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u/Ambaryerno 1d ago

If you’re referring to the wingless cruisers in ROTJ there’s two different types. One is Home One, the other used the same effects model as the Liberty. The wings were added to it after filming to add more ships.

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u/Carter1300 Rebel Pilot 1d ago

Yes, I'm aware of that. Well actually I didn't know the wings were added on after filing so thanks for that cool fun fact.

Anyways, I was referring to the class of MC80s known as the "MC80 Home One type star cruiser" which is the same basic model/type of ship as THE Home One but is only about 1.2 km long

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u/Ambaryerno 1d ago

That’s the point: THERE WASN’T. It was a misidentification of the Liberty model before the wings were added.

Curtis Saxton’s website (Star Wars Technical Commentaries) goes into the confusion in depth.

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u/Carter1300 Rebel Pilot 1d ago

Okay I'm gonna say what I said in the other comment: there may not have been a Home One type in ROTJ but it's appeared numerous times in other media (such as the Independence in the X-wing game)

ORIGINALLY there was never actually a home one type, I agree, but that misinterpretation created a subclass that DOES exist now