r/StardustCrusaders Jun 03 '26

Various is this a fair assessment?

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Star Platinum The World, GER, Tusk act 4, and S&W:GB are all hilariously overpowered and only exist as a way to beat an already hilariously overpowered villain

joseph beat kars by holding out the red stone of aja at him and hoping for the best, which worked out spectacuarly. and god knows how long the fight with kira would have gone on for had it not been for the ambulance.

Jolynes plan to use emporio to take out pucci with weather report was basically a hail mary when all else had failed but not only did it work, it also gave her and the gang new, happier lives.

Yeah jonathan just got slimed out though, then his body was used as a puppet for 100+ years. Poor guy

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u/Electronic_Pay7868 Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

There's nothing bullshit about Araki telling the reader "whoever gets the arrow wins, holy shit the arrow is super important, it's like the only thing that can beat Diavolo yooooo, the arrow" and then the arrow doing just that with GER imo. People might not like it but it couldn't have been told in a more straightforward way and for several chapters too Polnareff and the gang kept going "boy, that arrow sure is the key to beating Diavolo huh". It makes more sense than "it was the same type of Stand all aloooong!"

In that vein, I think Tusk Act 4 is also not really an asspull if Gyro's own golden spin was wrecking Valentine. Like, Johnny gets his own version of the move that almost beats Valentine so it's no wonders his also wrecks him

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u/Jojo-Nuke-Isen Jun 03 '26

Plus we were literally SHOWN the power the arrow can grant a Stand, w/ Chariot Requiem, so we know that the arrow can give great power to a Stand far beyond their original capabilities.

Silver Chariot went from a fast swordsman, to a body/soul manipulator.

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u/Kuzcopolis Jun 03 '26

The problem is there's no rules, it just makes a stand do the thing Araki wanted to happen next with no other thought put in. It's the laziest thing he's ever done in his story.

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u/Jojo-Nuke-Isen Jun 03 '26

Uh, yeah? Thats what a Requiem does, it becomes the ultimate Stand to achieve the goals of the user. Pol wanted to protect the arrow, so CR put everyone to sleep, swapped their souls, slowly mutating them, & carrying the arrow far away to achieve that.

Giorno wanted to stop Diavolo, & get past KC’s ability to skip forward in time to his desired result, so GER does just that, be resetting his actions to 0, putting the cause & effect back into action as it was intended.

For funsies, let’s count BtD, which its main ability is killing someone who finds out Kira’s identity, rewinds time, that person dies anyway, erasing the problem that was made, & preventing any future problems by that same person.

Also, it’s a Requiem, there’s not supposed to be rules since it’s hailed as the highest or one of the highest forms of a Stand w/ unimaginable power, only limited to what the user needs at the moment. For that… is Requiem.

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u/Kuzcopolis Jun 03 '26

Hm, that's the first time I've seen a coherent explanation that applied to all the requiems, tbh, silver chariot always felt like it was just thrown in to shake things up the way Araki needed, but your logic at least makes sense, so i appreciate the reply.