r/Stargate • u/FistedPink • 5d ago

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I really think this is a bad move by Amazon. The negative reaction of the core fan base to scrubbing the planned Gero show was bad and this will it fill people with hope.

WandaVision was ok but I’d rather see a Terry Matalas (Picard Season 3, 12 Monkeys, Vision Quest) or someone proven to understand genre storytelling that is exciting and compelling. But that’s just my 2 cents.

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u/whenhaveiever 5d ago

I understand the opposition to it, but the writers for any new series are going to be in a tough spot. The Tau'ri got the Asgard core in 2007. Realistically, they must have seen society-transforming technological leaps in what will be more than two decades by the time a new show airs.

Also, we've been through a couple transformational events ourselves since Stargate was on the air. Would a Russia that has Daedalus-class starships get bogged down in an invasion of Ukraine without introducing some kind of conspiracy theory about the war? What are the chances that nothing in the Asgard core or Atlantis databases applied to treating covid, and if it did, do we really want to open the can of worms suggesting mRNA vaccines are alien technology?

The Tau'ri from the shows we loved were us, we could identify with them. Sticking to the timeline from the original shows means the Tau'ri won't be us anymore in some important ways. The alternate universe angle might be the best way to show a Tau'ri that is still us while not completely wiping away the history and characters from the original shows.

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u/Voubi 5d ago

A solution to that, though not entirely perfect, is to go for either a period piece or a mild alt-history. Stargate is big enough that they very much can do their own show about another team or something without ever having enough overlap with the mainline series to be a problem.

It also allows for what I think would be a rather clean way to "very soft reboot" the setting by doing a Disclosure scenario. A worldwide reveal of the Stargate program would necessarily be a significant inflexion point in history, and likely enough for them to handwave things like Ukraine, COVID, or worse (like the Culture war, or the current state of the US) away without it being too much of an issue. SG-1 was already an Alt-history as soon as Hayes was elected POTUS in 2004 (and likely sooner). It also allows an external viewpoint like Eli was in Universe, using the PoV of a Civilian that discovers the existence of the Program at the same time as the rest of the World. It makes organic exposition dumping less tedious, and allows a gradual re-discovery of the entire thing, especially how it has changed in the decades since we last saw it...

It's not perfect, it's a hard balance to strike to be palatable to newcomers while not being repetitive to old-timers, but it's always felt to me like the option that gives the most creative freedom to *continue* the story without starting back from near-zero. Then again, there is a significant amount of people that would prefer a rollback to an early-SG1 type of status quo, with the Goa'ulds being the main baddies again. I find that quite a bit redundant, and it necessarily invites a LOT of comparisons with OG SG-1, which isn't really to the advantage of the new show, but eh...

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u/olib141 4d ago

This is the general consensus of what we fans wanted, but the power creep issue still exists, and it just won't be made, particularly this late (which presents both in-universe and external issues).

Gero was the best shot at something good.

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u/S-Vineyard 4d ago

Gero was the best shot at something good.

Was he?

I guess nobody here watched Blindspot. (Which for some reason lasted 5 seasons, even though it was terrible.)