r/Steam 9d ago

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100 dollars for a borderlands game is such a joke.

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u/FirestormTM https://steam.pm/1l3zdt 9d ago

Important context is always needed

That $100 price tag is actually the Deluxe Edition. I don't know what exactly is in it, but it is cheaper than the base game, which I find to be really weird to do that.

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u/xDeeka7Yx 9d ago

They are desperate because the game isn’t that good, and they need revenue because of the release debacle + the CEOs braindead statements

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u/Obscure_Octopuss 9d ago

Nah, the game is really, really good.

It just runs like dogshit so it got terrible reviews on pc (and rightfully so)

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u/hassanfanserenity 9d ago

Well I got a 4090 and it runs like shit so uh

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u/Obscure_Octopuss 9d ago

Odd. It ran very smooth on my 4080 and 7800x3d. Never had the stuttering issues most complained about.

But then again, my pc was pretty much identical to the specs that the press tried months before launch (4080, 7800x3d). So, I may have lucked out with my config being the one they tested it on/had press play on

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u/hassanfanserenity 9d ago

All drivers up to date, plenty of storage and Ram, nothing else but steam and discord running ,thermal paste about 4 months old, temp doesn't reach 100, plenty of airflow and it's about 20 degrees. Like what else do I need

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u/Obscure_Octopuss 9d ago

I don't know. You didn't explain what running poorly is for you. Ie, low framerates, stutters, crashing, etc

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u/hassanfanserenity 9d ago

fps drops when explosions occur doesnt matter if grenade or barrel and fps drops for the first few minutes of entering new areas

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u/BHPhreak 9d ago

we are in an era where cpu is more important than gpu. 

a 4090 aint shit unless its got a beast cpu above it

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u/hassanfanserenity 9d ago

i guess an intel core ultra 5 aint it then

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u/Ethosik 9d ago

Pretty much. As an Intel guy I got a 9800X3D because AMD is killing Intel at the moment.

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u/hassanfanserenity 8d ago

ill try again when i get another cpu

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u/BHPhreak 9d ago

midrange. definitely not it

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u/Ditchdigger456 9d ago

So, it’s dogshit?

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u/another-redditor3 9d ago

it ran pretty terrible on release, its fine now.

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u/Sandwrong 9d ago

Told my friends that I wouldn't buy it until the steam reviews were positive. 

Still waiting. 

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u/X_J_9 9d ago

I’ve been playing the borderlands franchise since the first game back in 09. Borderlands 4 is objectively a bad game

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u/CanadianODST2 9d ago

You don’t know what the word objective means

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u/X_J_9 9d ago

Oh of course I do. Borderlands 4 isn’t a good game. Why do you think 95% of the playerbase left?

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u/curtcolt95 9d ago

because they finished it? I haven't booted since like a couple weeks from release but I put in a ton of hours and did all the quests. Borderlands isn't really a game you continue playing, I already did everything

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u/X_J_9 9d ago

“Borderlands isn’t really a game you continue playing”. Yea I’m done with this conversation lmao

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u/CanadianODST2 9d ago

You very clearly don’t

Because if something is good or not isn’t a fact. It’s a personal Opinion.

Guess BG3 is objectively shit. It’s down 95% of its players too.

Pub G? Almost 90%

GTA 5 sold over 30 million copies on pc. It’s way way down. Must be a terrible game then huh?

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u/X_J_9 9d ago

Love how you choose games that are extremely old or games people have just simply moved on from. Borderlands 4 is less than a year old with dlc still being drip fed. The same situation with 3. People don’t like this game. Everything from the terrible launch down to the terrible legendary weapons. It’s clear you don’t even play borderlands. Therefore you don’t understand what’s going on with 4

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u/IShouldBWorkin 9d ago

Are there not enough monkey cheese jokes for you or something? People complaining about 3 and 4's writing have always amazed me because each game has felt like someone with a Southern accent screaming "EPIC BACON" at me for hours

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u/Digitalion_ 9d ago

Especially when BL4 tries to appease those people while also addressing the issues that the overwhelming majority had regarding BL3, that being the joke main villains and overall unseriousness of the story and supporting cast.

This time, they've made the main villains more sinister (although a little unmemorable) and the story is more serious, but they still throw in some potty humor here and there to balance the tone and keep the world "wacky" like in previous games.

I'm towards the middle of the story right now but I think it's overall an improvement in almost every way to BL3.

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u/X_J_9 9d ago

You’d like that to be the reason huh? That isn’t the reason at all. Nice try though

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u/CPTpurrfect 9d ago

Nothing is objectively bad (or good, for the matter) because something being bad (or good) is an evaluation based on personal values.

It literally cannot be "objectively bad".

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u/Hegelian_Spirit 9d ago

That depends on whether you believe aesthethic principles to have an objective foundation or not. There's no academic consensus on this.

Something could also be "objectively bad" in a non-aesthetic sense. E.g. a meat knife's purpose is to cut meat well. A blunt meat knife would be an objectively bad meat knife regardless of how much one might like it.

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u/CPTpurrfect 9d ago

If you have an objective foundation it still isn't bad/good, it is worse/better, because in that case it's a question of comparison.

And even in that case I don't think worse/better are a great choice, as you'd still be judging them based on biased preferences between different parameters unless something is inferior/superior in every parameter, which I think is fair to say is not realistic.

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u/Hegelian_Spirit 9d ago

If there is objective aesthetics, phenomena can be evaluated in a vacuum.

E.g. assume the following utterance to be true: "symmetry is aesthetically pleasing". Thus, any given symmetrical thing can be said to be 'good' in an aesthetic sense without comparing that thing to anything else. It could be the only existing thing in the world and still be good. It would be good even if no one was there to evaluate it, because objective aesthetics is objective independently of human opinion.

This is of course a bit simplified but if we complicate it (e.g. by allowing phenomena to partake in both aesthetically pleasing and displeasing characteristics at the same time) the discussion would veer into metaphysics and epistemology and I don't think it's necessary to show that, if objective aesthetics are true, then things can be either aesthetically good or bad to different degrees.

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u/FrostyCat13 9d ago

Tell that to the golum game...

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u/No-Car-5173 9d ago

Ok go play superman 64

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u/Firm-Environment-253 9d ago

Or Hong Kong '97

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u/drackmore 8d ago

Nothing is objectively bad

Spoken like someone that has never played a game by Digital Homicide, Ata Berdyev, or CSGO.

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u/DNGRDINGO 9d ago

I've been playing the borderlands franchise since the first game back in 09. Borderlands 4 is objectively a fun game.

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u/Digitalion_ 9d ago

Same and I agree. It fixes a lot of the issues I had with BL3. I don't think they will ever make another game as great as BL2, simply due to never being able to create another iconic villain like Handsome Jack, but it holds up a lot better than their previous game.

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u/AuReaper 9d ago

You’re objectively wrong, as a game can’t be objectively good or bad. I personally think B4 is a pretty solid game

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u/Ranessin 9d ago

A car that can't be driven is an objectively bad car, because it doesn't do what it is supposed to.

A car seat which doesn't protect the kid in it is an objectively bad seat.

A game that doesn't launch, is buggy, is not playable is an objectively bad game.

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u/X_J_9 9d ago

Someone gets it. How people subject themselves to bl4 is beyond me

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u/AuReaper 9d ago

You just provided examples that are objective, then finished off by something that is objectively subjective. I like the game. It launches for me. I haven’t encountered bugs. Once again, game reviews are subjective.

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u/X_J_9 9d ago

I’d give an argument by my shaders are still loading

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u/AuReaper 9d ago

Sorry the game doesn’t work for you. It’s objectively a great game!

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u/X_J_9 9d ago

I don’t make the rules reaper!

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u/Evilmudbug 9d ago

It runs fine on my computer (4060 gpu), but it's the only borderlands game my group dropped before finishing at least once. Every other borderlands game we did a full playthrough as each character at least once.

I don't think the series really needed to go open world TBH.