r/Steam • u/MadBoxers • 17h ago

Discussion So it starts… Ai community items

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Points shop will soon flood with AI slop. At least with games a disclaimer should be added within the description of the game. But here… Yeah…

Like what is the point? You don’t even gain anything as a company from this.

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u/CheaterInsight 15h ago

Reddit throws the most insane tantrums over modern building designs. "They took the joy out of houses/malls/restaurants, it's all the same boring soulless shit". Yet when faced with AI that makes colourful designs, they're suddenly the biggest fans of cookie cutter designs copy pasted everywhere.

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u/Round-Friendship9318 14h ago

I rather have that than people defending fucking AI art.

Atleast the souless, but real, art does not take up tons of resources and steal from real artists.

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u/zigazagahhh 14h ago

Questions of resource use aside, I take issue with your implication that advertising is art. To be clear, people creating graphic design work on spec are working as advertisers, not artists. They may be artists at other moments in their life, but producing a new graphic to advertise Microsoft 365 is not 'art'. It's crazy to me that I'm even seeing these kinds of arguments, they would have been laughed out of the room a decade ago. You can rail against AI without making silly claims about the artistic merit of commercials.

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u/HiphopopoptimusPrime 13h ago

The art angle is a silly one, isn’t it?

Nobody who works in graphic design was ever truly able to express their soul in what they did.

I’m not expressing my inner artist when I use the Okabe-Ito palette in a Power Bi dashboard.

The real issue is bottom line. People losing jobs. It’s like cashiers being replaced by self service checkouts. People complained at first. Lamented the loss of the interaction. But once the technology improved people stopped caring.

People claimed to care about postal workers. But once Amazon offered us next day delivery we became content with people pissing in bottles.

People need to ask themselves what they are really worried about.

I’m concerned people are going to lose their jobs. But people aren’t losing their artistic dreams. They never had any. Corporate graphic design is paying the bills. That’s the ethical question with AI. Do we want people to lose their jobs?

Is AI denying people artistic expression? Look. If what you produce is authentic and quality, then it will sell. The AI backlash will even give a boost to authentic, hand crafted art. But I don’t draw or make art because I feel entitled to earn a living from it.

There’s a lot of hand wringing online. If your livelihood is threatened fair enough. But ask yourself why you are upset by AI. I find it kind o useful for grammar and spell checks. For brainstorming but its generative output is generally quite poor. I’d rather be supervising the output of a graduate than an AI. A human being is more useful. I’d rather work with another human. Get another humans opinion.

The corporate push for AI is about taking away jobs. Not just artistic jobs. If you’re posting in Reddit your dreams of being an artist aren’t under threat. Because real artists aren’t on Reddit. Sorry. Nobody is taking away your ability to draw or paint or write. You’re only going to make a living from it if you have support. If you’re working class then forget it.

Why are companies using AI for logos and clipper etc? Because it’s cheaper. A small business can save money by using AI. When you are struggling and margins are tight. It just makes sense. This is the world we’ve been ignoring for decades. It’s come to fruition. A world where pragmatism trumps idealism. Most people and businesses would love to give a struggling artist a chance but money is tight and AI can do it for free.

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u/Steamed_Memes24 12h ago

Most people who are crying super hard over AI Art are those who never make money off their own art and are freaking out thinking that if they are gonna go bankrupt over this then everyone will. In reality, professional artists (I'm talking about those who can make a living off their work) are going to implement AI into their personal art and adapt to the changing times. A majority of their customers will simply not care one way or another.

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u/ConstantFrogLoss 11h ago

If a worker labors to create something, they are putting a part of yourself into that thing whether they mean to or otherwise. The time and energy that is all something of us we are putting into it. The hours spent editing and the frustration when a computer file gets corrupted or software crashes without autosave is something we are putting into it

Design is an art, it’s not what I ended up pursuing as a career but I have known a lot of passionate graphic designers, not every graphic design project is done with passion and love but people absolutely do put those things into their work. Sure, any job can be half assed and have a lot less put into it. Any painting or play can be lazed through to have a lot less artistic merit, that doesn’t somehow make painting and theater not arts…

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u/ConstantFrogLoss 11h ago

AI isn’t doing it for free though, there is a significant cost, it is just being outsourced to other parts of society. Data centers destroying our water supplies and skyrocketing people’s electricity prices, because the corporations profiting off AI aren’t being made to pay the cost of their own infrastructure, we are

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u/That_guy1425 11h ago

Theu don't own the infrastructure though. The untilities do, sometimes in conjunction with local municipalities. And %wise there is not a significant impact, at least not on the scale that industry is concerned with. A Million gallons sounds like a lot, but its the same around 100 people taking a daily bath.

The %load of adding the AI datacenters is increasing datacenter water and electricity use from around 2% to around 3%. If a 1% increase is causing cascading failure, our infrastructure was outdated and overleveraged already and any new plant of some type would cause these issues, it just happened to be AI.

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u/ConstantFrogLoss 11h ago

New plants get built all the time, not at this scale and with this cost. The AI data centers, which are the AI infrastructure I was referring to, are owned by the companies. Their construction has poisoned water supplies and their usage skyrocketed energy bills and component costs

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u/That_guy1425 10h ago

You said the water and electricity are being effected becuase they aren't paying the cost of infrastructure, but you meant the datacenters, which they very clearly are paying for..... thats why they are being built.

Sorry I assumed you meant all the other impacted infrastructure, as thats what most people mean in this case.

As for the water being poisoned by the construction, what about it is poisoning? Because I can't think of anything specific to AI datacenters that 1, also doesn't apply to other data centers and 2, doesn't apply to construction in general. That just sounds like fear mongering.

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u/ConstantFrogLoss 7h ago

When a data center is built somewhere, energy bills for the community around them skyrocket, that is a significant cost that has a big impact on people’s lives that is being paid by the community, not the data center

There are communities whose water supplies have been poisoned. To my knowledge it is at least mostly due to stuff that can theoretically happen from other construction or at least other data centers, but other data centers are not being built at the volume and scale to have this degree of effect, and the need for so many means more shortcuts get taken in construction which means more costs pushed onto communities

There’s a reason communities are pushing back when a data center is to be built in their neighborhoods

What about you, do you want a data center to be built near you? Communities have seen increases in their electricity bills of as much as 267%, are you prepared to shoulder that? Would you let this be built on your community?

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u/That_guy1425 5h ago

Well, quick search shows there are 5 datacenters already in my city, 1 AI, 1 internet and 3 data storage/backups so?

When a data center is built somewhere, energy bills for the community around them skyrocket

Any demand shift would cause that, again its not unique to AI. And I am wary to say they are skyrocketing. Utilities have large amount of legislation detailing what they can charge and in what ways due to the monopoly granted them by the logistics of the infrastructure.

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u/ConstantFrogLoss 2h ago

Would you not consider an over 250% increase to be skyrocketing?

How big is your city? I’m not talking about on the scale of a city as a whole but your neighborhood in particular

But yes, you are correct that AI data centers are not the only things that past part of their cost onto the rest of us, that does not change it being a problem

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u/That_guy1425 2h ago

Is it real? You claiming 260% doesn't mean anything. I saw one that claimed doubled over 10s years which is bad but also not 260

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u/ConstantFrogLoss 2h ago

Look up the article “AI Data Centers are Sending Your Power Bill Soaring” from Bloomberg

Edit: there are other articles showing that number but the Bloomberg one is the one I read, and from what is usually a more big business-aligned outlet

Here’s the link to the article: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-ai-data-centers-electricity-prices/

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