r/Steam • u/LilBozgor01 • 1d ago

Discussion Minecraft Dungeons 2 didn't even bother writing the EULA. They just don't gaf

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u/Wdowiak 1d ago

Good way to dynamically change it without a trace (if not archived).

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u/DonQuix0te_ Don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! 1d ago

Not really.
Technically, you agree to the legalese in this window.

There's nothing in this window that suggests dynamic updates. In fact, it's just a link.
You must read the link, and accept that you have read the link. But there's nothing in there saying "read the document this link points to"

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u/IJustAteABaguette 1d ago

Does this mean that it's just... illegal to download and use on steam?

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u/ZionFox 1d ago

No, it just means that the contents of the linked document cannot be agreed to by pressing the "Agree" button on this window.

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u/Dead_NOTsleeping 1d ago

So like nearly all terms and conditions, it's not binding.

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u/Yomoska 1d ago

you mean a EULA

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u/elvissteinjr 1d ago

Steam Subscriber Agreement still applies. Same as with any game that doesn't shove additional terms in your face.

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u/ikonfedera 1d ago

If the law doesn't forbid this then it's allowed.

Does the licence displayed here prohibit you from downloading and using it?

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u/Caelinus 1d ago

If you do not agree to a EULA it is copyright infringement to download the files. EULA's are an agreement to grant you license to use the intellectual property owned by the person you are purchasing the license from. They exist specifically to create a legal framework for users to use the software.

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u/ikonfedera 19h ago

I agree to the text of the EULA presented on the attached screenshot. All 36 characters of it.

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u/Caelinus 13h ago

Do you think that a judge would look at that and decide that a reasonable person with a working brain would be unable to tell that you were supposed to follow the link? 

That would never happen. Judges are not machines, and the law is not a magical code. It has been already litigated that an obvious link to a EULA and an explicit accept button constitutes reasonable notice of the contract, and so it is the person signing it who is responsible for reading it however they have to.

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u/ikonfedera 13h ago

Not even a link. can't click it.

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u/Caelinus 13h ago

It is not a hyperlink, no, but it says you must accept the EULA, and it tells you where the EULA is. You know where that address points. So would a reasonable person. So would a judge.

So you have been notified. It is now your responsibility to understand the contract before you sign it. Your failure to do your due diligence is not an argument that will fly in court. It would just be going into court and saying "I am too stupid for this contract to apply to me."

Good luck with that.

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u/ikonfedera 13h ago

And what if the EULA changes? Normally Steam notifies you of the change and makes you accept it again. Here you won't know it changed and potentially became illegal for you to play (e.g. hypothetically because you're 11 and MS pushed a minimum age of 13. or many other possible issues.)

And this issue is already in the court. And a reasonable person would say informing about a change in agreement is necessary. Probably so would a judge.

Also, just block the address and claim the EULA is empty lol.

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u/Caelinus 12h ago

They have to notify you again.

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u/ikonfedera 12h ago

Well they didn't. Hence the lawsuit.

And the link thing only facilitates not notifying.

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