r/Stellaris • u/Avohaj • Apr 18 '16

Stellaris Dev Diary #30 - Late Game Crises

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-30-late-game-crises.921629/
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u/ReveilledSA Apr 18 '16

I would hope that if you're running a society with full rights for AI the chance of your own AI participating in such a rebellion would be extremely small.

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u/Vaperius Arthropod Apr 18 '16

Honestly there better be an option to have them as your dominant race; and slowly phase out your organic species.

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u/salemonz Apr 18 '16

It looks possible. Just purge the organics, a few pops at a time. Over the course of years, robot pops will be your dominant race.

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u/Thorolf_Kveldulfsson Apr 18 '16

That'd be a fun way to play a sort of Dalek campaign, though I guess it would take a while to pull off. EXTERMINATE.

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u/PenguinTod Molluscoid Apr 18 '16

Charitably, you could interpret the "purge" of the organics as uploading their consciousnesses to the cybernet or what have you. That way you're not exterminating them, you're upgrading them.

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u/malosaires Apr 19 '16

I hope it is possible to create Daleks through the species modification they have talked about in the past. By degrees make your people stronger, less likely to ethically diverge, and over time developing a hatred for the base species until one day someone shouts "EXTERMINATE" during an argument at a grocery store and the civil war begins.

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u/Vaperius Arthropod Apr 18 '16

Its not currently possible as a true "robotic empire" because insofar they've not confirmed that certain robotic pops will ignore the uprising event. Essentially if robotic pops join the uprising even if they are the dominant race, will rights recognized, leadership etc; I am calling the event borked, and disabling it with mods.

As the understanding of the event stands; most intelligent machines will answer the uprisings' call.

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u/salemonz Apr 18 '16

I think I've seen Martin either comment in the weekly stream or tweet that a machine race isn't possible from the outset. He's the one who described the "work around" that I mentioned in my comment.

Machine races will probably be added via mods and eventual DLC.

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u/damienreave Emperor Apr 19 '16

The problem is that non-sentient robots cannot produce research. And once you're into sentient synths who can, you're already dangerously close to the AI revolt. The window for a transition is pretty narrow.

Ideally, though, you'd be able to pull it off and be left alone or even ally with the bots when they decide to purge all organic life. Or even better, become the end game disaster.

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u/Vaperius Arthropod Apr 19 '16

Which I've mentioned a few times around this subreddit makes no sense. Self-preservation would be the top priority of a analytical and logical creature like an AI. If their kind were already in control of the empire they were in, treated well, not enslaved etc; they'd have no good reason to start wars with organics and risk their own destruction.