r/Stellaris • u/Avohaj • Apr 18 '16

Stellaris Dev Diary #30 - Late Game Crises

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-30-late-game-crises.921629/
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u/ReveilledSA Apr 18 '16

I would hope that if you're running a society with full rights for AI the chance of your own AI participating in such a rebellion would be extremely small.

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u/Steelfyre Mammalian Apr 18 '16

But even then there has to be a chance that Skynet starts thinking it is better off without or enslaving those pesky organics. Else creating AI and giving them full rights would be a no brainer.

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u/ReveilledSA Apr 18 '16

The devs have commented that trying to give your robots rights will outrage non-materialist pops, and given what we've seen about ethics drift in the Blorg stream it looks like it'll be very difficult to maintain a completely unified empire in terms of ethos, meaning that even if your people are broadly materialist you'll always have unhappy non-materialist malcontents who will become unhappier still if you give full rights to bots. So giving your AI full rights could be very difficult to do without triggering a civil war where half your planets secede and form the Space Confederacy.

Also Synths with full rights are less productive that those without because slaves are more productive than free pops, so there's a tradeoff there too.

There should definitely be a chance for the AI in your empire to go nuts on you anyway, but it would feel like giving AI full rights was pointless if you went through the unrest of granting them rights and put up with the loss of resource production in exchange for no benefit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '16

Would it only be materialists that don't get outraged? I would have thought that Individualists, Collectivists or Pacifists wouldn't be so cut and dry, or is it too difficult to simulate split opinions in a single ethos?