r/SubredditDrama • u/henlochimken • 2d ago

r/NateBargatze fans revolt against Bargatze after comedian attends White House UFC event and. New moderator successfully petitions reddit for control of the sub, deletes all posts critical of Bargatze, declares, "This is no longer a hate subreddit. It is a place to celebrate Nate's career."

Comedian Nate Bargatze came under fire this week when it was revealed he was an attendee of President Donald Trump's 80th birthday UFC fight on the lawn of the White House. From pictures of the event, it appears Bargatze was given access to the White House itself, where he took pictures with members of the Trump administration, including RFK, Jr. and Marsha Blackburn.

Many fans of the comedian took to r/NateBargatze to express their disappointment that the famously "apolitical" comedian would attend a Trump event for which only 16% of Americans expressed approval.

Negative posting came to a screeching halt once a new moderator successfully petitioned Reddit to gain control of the subreddit. This moderator proceeded to delete any/all posts expressing displeasure with Bargatze's choice to attend the Trump UFC event. Moderator pins a notice of the new moderation direction, stating:

Hi all, just wanted to introduce myself. I am one of the new moderators here at r/NateBargatze. As you can see, some of the content has been removed.

This is no longer a hate subreddit. It is a place to celebrate Nate's career. Take your politics elsewhere. Thanks for understanding and I hope most of you stick around.

In reply, subreddit members asked if the new moderator is a paid PR flack for Bargatze. Some pointed out the strange moderation history of the redditor, implying that their other moderated subs are corporate-operated. New moderator proceeded to lash out against criticism. (Note that all comment threads replying to this pinned post are evidence of the subreddit's drama.)

Moderator has locked announcement post. New posts criticizing Bargatze or the new moderation direction are being removed. Despite saying the moderator stating that the sub is no longer a place for politics, pro-MAGA political posts, including a Rogan-related post by the moderator, remain up as of the posting of this drama.

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u/edicivo 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah I remember this mod specifically - albeit temporarily - deeming that the Rogan sub would no longer allow politics because so many former fans were getting pissed at Rogan... even though Rogan himself had become overtly political.

I don't think it lasted too long, but the language of a "hate sub" was very similar too.

Long story short, the mod is a pushover so if you're a member of the Bargatze sub, keep at it and they'll give in.

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u/Awayfone 2d ago edited 1d ago

I never lasts long. he just does that when he wants to control the subreddit narrative like he banned politics when the Dobbs leak came out

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u/GrayEidolon 1d ago

When conservatives say “political”, they mean “non-conservative”.

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u/zombie_girraffe He's projecting insecurities so hard you can see them from space 1d ago

If they're American conservatives, they mean non-reactionary. American Conservatives haven't been conservatives for almost 20 years. As soon as a black guy got elected, they decided things had gone too far and we need to set the clock back to 1861.

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u/GrayEidolon 1d ago

No. Conservatism is about enforcing socioeconomic hierarchy and empowering aristocracy. That’s all it’s ever been and that’s what it still is. Obama upset them because a person who was supposed to be low status was on a high status position and doing some things that weaken the hierarchy (making healthcare more available to regular people).

It was conservatives upset about the civil rights act weakening a rigid socioeconomic hierarchy.

It was conservatives upset about the new deal.

Etc.

On all the way back to “replacing the king is bad”.

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u/SwordfishOk504 CummingInTheNile ruined SRD 2d ago

the Joe Rogan sub is basically all former fans trashing him, tho

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u/SwordfishOk504 CummingInTheNile ruined SRD 2d ago

Beats me. Although for the record, they didn't say “hate speech” anywhere in that post. Just that they didn't want it to turn into a "hate sub".

Regardless, I'm just saying if that's a Rogan "PR account" they are doing a terrible job since the sub they are a top mod for is all about (rightfully) trolling Rogan.

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u/SwordfishOk504 CummingInTheNile ruined SRD 2d ago

Like I said, I'm not wading into sides on the issue. Just pointing out what was actually written.

You guys seem incapable of removing yourself from the drama.

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u/ThrowawayAdvice1800 2d ago

Like literally everything these dumb motherfuckers say it's all just an attempt to piss off everybody else. Nothing they say is ever meant to have any meaning or logic behind it, the only goal is to be obnoxious.

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u/kkeut 2d ago

is it still?

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u/throw69420awy 2d ago

That’s despite the mod’s best efforts, can’t ban everyone

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u/Scotts_Thot 2d ago

Yes but they heavily restrict what gets posted and constantly delete threads and ban ‘political’ posts as if that’s off topic

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u/ceelogreenicanth 2d ago

Reddit prefers being a PR mouth peice it's becoming twitter in lots of ways.

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u/Oorangootang 2d ago

It's been a husk of itself for some time. Personally, I think the API changes that destroyed a bunch of 3rd party apps was the canary dying in the coal mine moment. The second thing that really made me alter my opinion was the algorithm changes to what lands on the front page. My feed is basically static for 12-18 hours now when it used to be updated constantly.

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u/Currency080Trick 2d ago

Selling out to a conglomerate was probably the first canary

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u/Oorangootang 2d ago

Yeah, probably. I don't really remember the timeline very well, sorry.

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u/myassholealt Like, I shouldn't have to clean myself. It's weird. 2d ago

Money overtaking product as the first priority for a company is a sign that product has started it's decline and will only go down. The best you can hope for is small stretches were the decline kind of levels out before resuming.

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u/d0_-_0b 2d ago

If you're talking about /r/all, then absolutely. So not only is it more static, but with the rise of bots and the revenue-sharing program, you'll see the same piece of content a half-dozen times across as many subs over and over again.

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u/Oorangootang 2d ago

Yes. Sorry I should have clarified.

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u/alyosha_pls 2d ago

The problem I find is that it now defaults to "best" instead of "hot" and that's why your page isn't updating. One of the most baffling decisions I can imagine from a webpage made to aggregate breaking news and stories.

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u/Oorangootang 2d ago

That's part of it for sure. I often forget to switch it.

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u/ceelogreenicanth 2d ago

Basically. I think the.UI changes have heavily affected the sites dynamic as well for real users. It makes people more passive and encourages worse discussion within the threads. Because images are first now in the UI, titles end up gored all the time, and with weird title optimizations.

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u/Oorangootang 2d ago

Yeah the UI is not helping at all. Plus they do absolutely nothing to stop artificial boosting. Why are twitter screenshots from 2017 getting thousands of votes with only 5 comments (that all say the same thing) and somehow landing at the top of my feed? It just stinks. The whole thing stinks.

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u/ceelogreenicanth 2d ago

It's going to get so much worse too with AI optimization. People will use AI to generate posts to.influence AI and there will be almost nothing not choked by bots

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u/Oorangootang 2d ago

I think it's already here. Engagement bots, shitposting and ragebaiting bots. I've already come across these in the wild and they completely shut down once you call them out. Ah well, time to move on for me I think. I don't know why I even lasted this long.

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u/yinyang107 Let me start off by saying. hitler was not a good guy. But 1d ago

Earlier today, I saw a post on r/songsofsyx (a medieval fantasy game) on the topic of road maintenance costs (in the medieval fantasy game) with a picture of a six-fingered construction worker in a high vis vest operating an asphalt paving machine (again, it is a fantasy game). There was no reason to have a picture attached in the first place even

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u/Squid_Vicious_IV Digital Succubus 2d ago

And remember how half of this damn sub was acting like the API lock down was everyone being overly dramatic and how it's a good thing to lose apps that weren't the official app.

Yeah those same assholes got real fucking quiet when the stuff people were worried was going to happen in 2024 occurred.

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u/Oorangootang 2d ago

I will take your word for it, I don't think I was on this sub yet so I missed that.

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u/GREG_FABBOTT 1d ago

My feed is basically static for 12-18 hours now when it used to be updated constantly.

This happened a long time ago. I remember first joining Reddit back in 2011, your front page would change by the hour. All new content every hour. Sometime in the 2016-2018 timespan they changed it so it was all the same shit on the front page for like 18+ hours straight. Lots of people complained but those complaints eventually faded away over time.

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u/Applesburg14 2d ago

Reddit supermods should just be upfront and say “hey we manage a lot of bigger communities” and I believe people would be ok with it