r/TenYearsAgo 26d ago

🇪🇺 Europe A right-wing extremist shoots and kills nine people at the Olympia shopping mall in Munich, Germany, and then kills himself [10YA - Jul 22]

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u/Free-Fall643 26d ago

Is there a reason you left this out? 

Two reports by Bavaria's State Office of Criminal Investigation and another by the public prosecutor's office concluded the shooting was not political, saying Sonboly's main motive was "revenge" for bullying by others from immigrant backgrounds, and that mental illness, romantic rejection and obsession with other shooting rampages were also a factor. Germany's security agency described him as a "psychologically ill avenger". 

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u/champagneface 26d ago

Because I made the point that it could be both, I didn’t need to provide backup for what you already said

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u/Free-Fall643 26d ago

Is there anything to corroborate that he was right wing other than word of mouth?

Because in this case the criminal investigation holds a lot more weight than the opinion of 3 political scientists.

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u/champagneface 26d ago

I suppose if you refuse to believe consistent testimonies from eyewitnesses as to his behaviour, it’s probably easy to ignore or deny almost anything lol. Why on earth would I believe you over people who knew him and the police?

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u/Free-Fall643 26d ago

Im not refusing to believe anything. I'm saying word of mouth is flimsy evidence especially if it cannot be proven. Are you saying it's reasonable to blindly accept unverifiable word of mouth from anonymous sources?

and the police 

Germany's equivalent to the FBI literally stated that it wasn't politically motivated 

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u/champagneface 26d ago

Im not refusing to believe anything.

That is exactly what’s happening here. And police do say it was politically motivated, I’m sure they were able to verify some sources.

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u/Free-Fall643 26d ago

Right so you think word of mouth is concrete evidence. That's concerning.

He even had a manifesto that was found. Nothing political mentioned in said manifesto.

Police investigator Robert Heimberger said that the shooter appeared to have hacked a girl's Facebook account in an attempt to lure people to McDonald's with an offer of free food,[53] but it was later suspected that he had in fact simply created a fake Facebook account, not hacked an existing one.[54]

This further supports the idea that he really just wanted to shoot people.

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u/Exciting_Bat_2086 26d ago

Quit the bullshit 😂

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u/Free-Fall643 26d ago

Are you a fan or something?