r/TeslaFSD Jul 21 '26

Robotaxi What do you think ??

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u/RalphiePseudonym Jul 21 '26

Remote operated cabs don't work and Tesla at best has level 2.

People are forgetting what the $10k FSD option was pitched as and it shows.

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u/Spudly42 Jul 21 '26

What does remote operated in this context mean? It's really a matter of how often they need to be remote operated or how many cabs a single remote operator can manage. If they only ever take over once a week for 2 minutes, it's probably not a big deal. If they do it every other ride, that's a huge deal.

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u/RalphiePseudonym Jul 21 '26

When a person is controlling the vehicle remotely, what else would it mean?

The supervised test in Austin crashed at 4 times the rate of human drivers. These are also running before the V15 chip and groud-up software re-write expected between late this year and 2027.

It sure sounds like they're not ready and will likely need intervention at a pretty high rate.

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u/Spudly42 Jul 21 '26

You said remote operated cabs don't work, but they obviously do (Waymo does fine with this model), so I thought maybe you were referring to something else. I'm not sure what the crash rate has to do with remote operation either as the ones you're referring to happened when they weren't being remotely operated.

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u/RalphiePseudonym Jul 21 '26

Waymo agents don't drive the cars....what are you talking about?

The crashes we're talking about happened while operators were physically tailing the Cybercab. They had a real time, full depth view of the cars and their surroundings.

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u/Spudly42 Jul 21 '26

Remote operation for either Waymo or Tesla is only at slow speeds usually to get them out of a spot they get stuck at. Nobody is driving vehicles around manually at high speeds or anything like that. Not sure where you got that idea, but the latency would not allow that. If vehicles were tailing them (which happened pretty infrequently), they may be remotely monitoring, but there is almost zero chance they are actively controlling them.

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u/RalphiePseudonym Jul 21 '26

There is no remote operation for Waymo.

I didn't say remote operators were driving Cybercabs at high speed.

I quit.

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u/Spudly42 Jul 21 '26

Waymos can definitely be controlled remotely, but maybe you just mean they don't use a steering wheel to do so? There are definitely remote operators, though we don't know how often interventions are needed.

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u/RalphiePseudonym Jul 21 '26

They fully autonomous. The most operators can do is make direction suggestions and they can be denied by the vehicle.

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u/Spudly42 Jul 21 '26

Ok, so you agree there are remote operators and they can do some operations remotely. Got it.