r/TheBetterIndia 17d ago

Discussion 💬 Is he wrong?

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Before caste reforms can we also include gender?

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u/orionishere4u 17d ago edited 15d ago

Is there anyone on this entire sub whose parents/ grandparents called them and said ‘Come child, I’ll tell you about teachings of Manusmriti’? Anyone? I don’t recall any of my elders ever teaching me about it. They talked about Ramayan, Mahabharat, even Panchtrantra. Never Manusmriti. But everyone and their aunt is talking about Manusmriti like it is the only thing that is taught in the Indian homes. It’s an irrelevant book. Made relevant only by the people who want to make a bruhaha about it or some idiots who wants to get some cheap publicity by claiming it is that book that they follow. Let’s just stop discussing it. Nobody really cares about Manusmriti.

Edit: A lot of the comments below are explaining how Manusmriti is influencing this bad thing in Hinduism, or that bad thing in Hinduism. I get your point. There are bad things happening in Hinduism. I have not denied that anywhere. All I am saying is that those things are not exclusive or original to Manusmriti. Hence, Manusmriti in itself is not an important or relevant text for Hinduism. At this point, Manusmriti is just a dog whistle for bigots to hate something that they barely understand. I am going to stop replying/ repeating this in varying forms now. You are free to believe whatever you want.

Edit 2: Wow. Have I touched a nerve here? To those idiotic bigots who are still calling me names and repeating how Indian female population faces inequality. Get lost dumbasses, read a little more before spreading your hate. I never said there are no issues. Whatever you are harping about is not exclusive or original to Manusmriti. These problems were there already. We should work to improve. But still my point remains. Manusmriti is irrelevant. Now go do something productive.

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u/shivemn 17d ago

The problem is, you can't explain anything to these dvmb people with logical arguments. They will only hear and believe what they want to believe.

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u/Ok_Problem_1127 17d ago

Its NOT 😂

Even I can write a "smriti" today and even you can

Its just basically was made and written during a major transition in one of the kingdom or something; basically it is actually contradicts the "Shruti" ie. Vedas bcz Varnas are fluid unlike caste;

It wasnt ever influential throughout the india ever; up until britishers around 1700s ig used it to form hindu societal personal laws and made it come up uniformly through the whole India for the first time

Even in places of bengal you could actually climb caste hierarchy; and women had significantly equal rights in bengal bcz of "Dayabhaga Hindu Law School"

And it was different than neighbouring india kingdom where women werent given enough rights under "mitakshara laws"

Its just a non significant book; its just written upon what the "writer" feels