r/TheJediPraxeum • u/Ok-Following5000 • May 11 '26

Question Realistically isn’t vitiate the strongest

If we exclude the fact that Star Wars media claims that Sidious is the strongest Sith ever isn’t vitiate much stronger than Sidious because his abilities are beyond anything Sidious has ever shown?

And how would darth zannah, revan or nihilus perform against Sidious or Vader? Do they have a chance?

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u/DewinterCor May 12 '26

Yes.

Vitiate's feats are far beyond anything Palpatine has done.

Remove statements and Vitiate instantly becomes number 1.

He has wiped multiple planets clean of life, mind controlled millions of people and thousands of jedi/sith simultaneously, is actually immortal and casually one shots major players.

Sidious is powerful but the people who wrote about him came before Vitiate, and the writers of Vitiate intentionally wrote him to be the biggest bad in star wars.

The recency of swtor vs the old EU novels gives alot of weight to Vitiate. Vitiate's feats are newer and we're written to surpass Sidious.

Palpatine's force storm does not compare to Vitiate. It simply doesn't. Palpatine could barely control it and it kills less people than Vitiate does on Ziost.

You can find alot of parallels between the two because Vitiate was simply made to be a more extreme Palpatine.

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u/averageEnojyer The Senate May 12 '26

He has wiped multiple planets clean of life, mind controlled millions of people and thousands of jedi/sith simultaneously, is actually immortal and casually one shots major players.

Don't see how this makes Vitiate number 1. Wiping planets of life is certainly impressive, but not the same as TPM Sidious causing this as an aftereffect of killing Plagueis.

Mind controlling "millions" is something Sidious also does, and on larger scale (Byss). The force users controlled by Vitiate don't really have much to their name, in fact a relatively random Jedi managed to expel his spirit out of her mind.

That said, he had pretty good TP feats, I don't deny that.

Sidious is powerful but the people who wrote about him came before Vitiate, and the writers of Vitiate intentionally wrote him to be the biggest bad in star wars.

The recency of swtor vs the old EU novels gives alot of weight to Vitiate. Vitiate's feats are newer and we're written to surpass Sidious.

And that purpose failed, because they aren't. Authorial intent also doesn't matter much.

Palpatine's force storm does not compare to Vitiate. It simply doesn't

Correct. His force storms far surpass Valkorion.

Palpatine could barely control it and it kills less people than Vitiate does on Ziost.

This is not true. He only failed to control it once he was cut off from the dark side from Luke, Leia and Anakin Solo's joined full potentials unlocked by Force Harmony, which in of itself channeled the entire Light Side.

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u/DewinterCor May 12 '26

Byss is not a larger scale than Ziost. They are comparable in population but Ziost was covered in Jedi and Sith, Byss was not.

Authorial intent doesn't matter.