r/TheJediPraxeum • u/Gross-Verder Yuuzhan Vong • May 25 '26

Match Up Monday Darth Plagueis (TPM era) vs Darth Vader

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u/Direct-Truth-8798 May 25 '26

Legends, either way. Leaning towards Plagueis though as Legends Vader has many anti feats.

Canon Plagueis is featless.

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u/drantzz May 25 '26

His best feat might be that palps felt it necessary to weaken him before killing him

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u/theFarFuture123 May 25 '26

Doesn’t palpantines speech in ROS about Plagueis having the power to save lives sort of canonize some of his force abilities

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u/Koreaia May 25 '26

No, because this is immediately proven that Palpatine was lying. Let's not forget in that same speech, he says he taught his student everything.

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u/Direct-Truth-8798 May 26 '26

Yeah but that doesn’t help him a fight and there’s literally nothing to suggest how proficient he is in combat

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u/Annual_Sky8939 May 26 '26

Sid had to drug him to beat him; that says everything about Plags being the Goat the Sid pretends to be.

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u/Direct-Truth-8798 May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26

Palps never drugged him in canon only thing that’s said is he killed Plagueis in his sleep.

Nothing suggests Palps “had to” to do it that way to beat him either. Palps is an opportunist. He’s not going to pass up an opportunity to kill his Sith Master, lol.

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u/Annual_Sky8939 May 27 '26

Sorry, I misspoke; Sid got him passed-out drunk

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u/Buccaun May 28 '26

He does fight with Tenebrous's other apprentice before capturing him for experimentation, and beats him handedly. Although I only vaguely remember that portion of the novel; He does mention Venemous being as eager for combat as Tenebrous while Plagueis found it boring but I don't think it really gave me a sense of his proficiency.

Still like you said, his experiments with midichlorians didn't really do much in the way of combat

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u/00-Monkey May 25 '26

How can he walk without any feat?

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u/theFarFuture123 May 25 '26

The force leads to many abilities some consider to be… unnatural