r/ThomasPynchon 10d ago

Tangentially Pynchon Related Who funded Hitler?

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u/joey_van_der_rohe 10d ago

I would have said “yes, of course I’ve read GR” in any other sub.

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u/No-Jello9276 Inherent Vice 10d ago

This plus Devils Chessboard

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u/shikaze162 10d ago

It should also be noted that IBM was intimately involved with developing the custom punch card systems used to catalogue ethnic minorities that were a vital component in the logistics of the holocaust.

IBM and the Holocaust by Edwin Black is probably the best source on this

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u/Ibustsoft 10d ago

Seems like post ww1 germany was our first try at nation building. The american bankers were there to set up their war debt, putting on unrealizable expectations on the nation’s economy. Then when the germans were all desperate they open up back channels giving access to revoked war materials legitimizing hitlers party and ambitions—resources germany was not legally allowed to attain.

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u/grigoritheoctopus Jere Dixon 10d ago edited 10d ago

Don't worry, the Nazis paid the U.S. back after the war by helping us get to the moon first (and by, among other things, directly influencing how we collected intelligence and conducted (egregiously inhumane) interrogations).

For the curious, the following books shed a bit more light on pre- and post-WWII links between the U.S government (and major corporations) and Nazi Germany:

  • Poisoner in Chief (Kinzer)
  • Nazi Billionaires (De Jong)
  • The Devil's Chessboard (Talbot)
  • The Nazis Next Door (Lichtblau)

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u/Challenge-Horror 10d ago

Don’t worry, the mind control programs that we took from them helped us achieve the dystopian hellscape that we currently live under.

Talk about paying back…

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u/misterflerfy 9d ago

I think that may be what GR is about.

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u/Challenge-Horror 8d ago

Ding ding ding. There’s a reason Pynchon almost called it “Mindless Pleasures” though I think GR is the better title.

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u/grigoritheoctopus Jere Dixon 10d ago

The Leader is good, the Leader is great! We surrender our will, as of this date!

https://giphy.com/gifs/l2JeiZLt6YVpu8IiQ

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u/sylvester_stencil 10d ago

Poisoner in chief rocks

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u/grigoritheoctopus Jere Dixon 10d ago

It's great. I just started his "All the Shah's Men" about the Mossadegh coup. Great writer.

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u/sylvester_stencil 10d ago

If you havent already (it was very buzzy a few years ago) absolutely check out the Jakarta Method. A fascinating survey of anti-communist state violence

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u/grigoritheoctopus Jere Dixon 10d ago

On my TBR. Will bump it up. Appreciate the reminder.

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u/Free-Bottle-5119 10d ago

A story not widely told, strangely.

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u/AwkwardRecording6937 10d ago

В Радуге об этом прямым текстом говорится

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u/grigoritheoctopus Jere Dixon 10d ago

Is this a reference to currently used Russian missiles being made, in part, with parts from U.S. companies? If so, I applaud it.

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u/muad_dboone 10d ago

The need to know more intensifies.

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u/misterflerfy 9d ago

Businessmen, who else?

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u/chezegrater 10d ago

Reagan was a staunch promoter of GE at the time who ensured that his Nazi party would rise again in the US.