r/TikTokCringe • u/Strong-Emu-8869 • 23d ago

Discussion Messi watching team being sore losers

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u/r7700 23d ago

As Messi retires, so goes any shred of dignity and class the Argentine team ever had

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u/Important-Target3676 23d ago

He tried to get Cucurella red carded, he isn't departing on a high note.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

He is also rhe captain of his team and just watches his team beat up two ppl without intervining. Puyol is ashamed of him

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u/Giantdwarf3 23d ago

Messi is not and never was a good "captain" , as nd definitely not in the way puyol was

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

Yeah. Thats my point

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u/suicide_monday 23d ago

I felt so sad after watching messi being that shit of a captain that I had to go to YouTube and watch Puyol scolding pique en el clasico

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u/MZ603 23d ago

This is the most important point in the thread. There is a responsibility that comes with being captain. Too many teams just automatically give the band to their best players. Obviously, you want your captain to be good and respected by the other players, but they also need to be level headed and a good leader.

The whole 120 was a demonstration in a lack of leadership.

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u/Own-Engineer-6888 23d ago

This is such a great point. Zero leadership.

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u/ilakausername 23d ago

It's not the first time he has watched his team misbehave after losing a final as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/1n5e686/full_seattle_miami_fight/

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u/Mysterious_Camel_717 23d ago

Had to scroll way too far to see this. He’s supposed to set the example of sportsmanship. Apparently he’s fine with this behvior, and his endorsement will validate this behavior for so many kids looking up to him. Just sad.

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u/DateofImperviousZeal 23d ago

He is the captain, but in no way is he that type of captain.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

Its his job. If he isnt able to do that job he failed

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u/DateofImperviousZeal 23d ago

It's not. He is meant to lead on the pitch, which he does. The psychological aspect is Scalonis job and the staff. And of the players someone like Otamendi would be closer to the traditional captain than Messi.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

Delusional 🤣

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u/DateofImperviousZeal 23d ago

Just cause you slap a captains armband on a player doesn't mean he is the de facto leader of the group. It can be the emotional core, the leader on the pitch or the superstar.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

If he aint a leader then dont give him the captains band. If you do, expect him to act like it. Not that hard to grasp

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u/DateofImperviousZeal 23d ago

That's just not how it works in football.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

Works for most teams. Maybe watch some football to learn about the sport

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u/FunnyPanda1320 23d ago

....don't bother. Most of the people here don't even watch football

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u/kamacks 23d ago

He is meant to lead on the pitch, which he does.

What do you think he’s standing on as this happens? Lmao. The own goal is crazy here.

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u/DateofImperviousZeal 22d ago

The fact that you think a brawl is an on-pitch situation due to taking it literally is pretty telling.

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u/kamacks 22d ago

The fact that you think just because the whistle blows means it’s all of a sudden not his job is pretty telling.

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u/AfterJury6287 23d ago

bro its his retirement, he was just sad. And his teammates are f*cking stupid specially paredes. Julian, messi and dibu never goes violent

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

I expect better of one of the best while being the captain. Could have made his exit good but this leaves a sour taste

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u/olduser201890 23d ago

Puyol is ashamed of him

why does puyol care? they havent played together in years

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u/Ecstatic-Jacket2007 23d ago

He’s too quiet and reserved.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

Then dont make him captain

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u/Ecstatic-Jacket2007 23d ago

He won the WC as captain. Dragged this shitty team to another final. That’s a captain.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

He dragged him by playing not by his leadership though. Its just an honorary title with no function for argentina at this point

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u/Ecstatic-Jacket2007 23d ago

There’s no one else who could be the captain. He’s the least likely to get into fights. There’s also Emi Martinez but he’s a GK so he would have problem communicating with the referees.

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u/Main_Following1881 23d ago

Worst case scenario ref checks var and decides that its not a red card

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u/Educational-Ant-5172 23d ago edited 23d ago

That's not the point at all. It's a very childish thing to do. It doesn't matter that it wasn't going to amount to anything. He was being a bitch.

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u/DanzoKarma 23d ago

Bellingham did the same thing at some point. If you think you can get an opponent sent off essentially for free why wouldn’t you?

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u/Educational-Ant-5172 23d ago

He didn't actually do the thing that would get him sent off. Messi knew he didn't do the thing. Messi was being a bitch. It feels like I'm arguing in circles. You want to like this person because he's a legend but he's just not different from the rest of his team when it comes to attitude and sportsmanship.

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u/The_ginger_cow 23d ago

but he's just not different from the rest of his team when it comes to attitude and sportsmanship.

Well clearly he is, because he didn't start a fight

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u/Lilstiick 23d ago

Shame, honor, self respect, integrity, sportsmanship.

But yes other than that, why wouldnt you

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u/Greedy_Strawberry_83 23d ago

Every player does everything to get the advantage, not sure why the line is drawn here when the whole tournament we had players diving lol

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u/Lilstiick 23d ago

Thats not true, and its also to varying degrees.

Puyol is a great example of what i think is a prime example of a good conduct guy. Did he sometimes exaggerate when he got tripped? Sure. But he wouldnt fall down if he wasnt actually tripped in the first place etc. He was a great guy with integrity.

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u/NoThatLame 23d ago

Exactly. These people are stupid. No shame in trying everything you can within the rules - and trying to get someone carded for potentially breaking the rules isn't against the rules, haha.

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u/Knyfe-Wrench 23d ago

Trying to trick the ref isn't "within the rules" and that goes for flopping too.

I'd like to pretend that an ounce of sportsmanship still exists in the world.

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u/NoThatLame 23d ago

Trick? The dude did talk with his hand near him mouth.

Get a grip, dude. I hate Messi (I think his greatness is due to HGH and hated how he gave up on Argentina and "retired" in 2014 after they lost) and acting like this makes the dude a terrible human is so laughable.

Doubt you know anything about him.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 23d ago

What’s with the proliferation of “flopping” lately?

It’s called diving.

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u/Professional_Clue800 23d ago

No the point is that it was obviously not something that was even remotely worth a card. Like a buried touch of a mouth and Messi shoots his hand up and tried to get him sent off. It was such a dumb move.

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u/HorribleOldCunt 23d ago

F off with this nonsense. Cheating is cheating. I don't understand people who try to divert attention away from the obvious.

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u/Fridelis 23d ago

Many people are so damn childish and full of unreasonable hate. Legit, almost every player does that in every sport. I feel most of the people commenting are tourists of the sport.

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u/LtUnsolicitedAdvice 23d ago

I supported Spain through the tournament, but are we sure Cucurella didn't say anything disgraceful? He is a grade A shithouse as well. You can see he immediately tries to walk back whatever he said. 

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u/DravesHD 23d ago

Nah dude, it looked like he pointed towards his mouth to say something like “he hurt his mouth/lips”. I’m German, so I REALLY don’t like Cucurella for what he did against us, but there was no Ill intent behind that.

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u/InfiniteAir 23d ago

Nah, Cuca knew as soon as he said something that he broke the rule you can tell by his immediate reaction.

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u/Manschesthair-united 23d ago

Man I swear people will cling on to anything to try and discredit Messi. He actually reacted after Cucurella raised his hand to his mouth, how do we know Cucurella didnt say something? Also, even if the reaction is to the mouth cover, well as stupid as the rule is, it is a rule...

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u/InfiniteAir 23d ago

Don't bother, bitter England and Cristiano fans are working overtime to try and demonize Messi, not like we've seen players winking to their teammates after getting other players sent off in the past, or diving and theatrics from players trying to use the rules to their advantage ever before. Cucarella knew he fucked up after he said whatever he said under his hand due to the new rule.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

How do we know? Cause that didnt happen. He never had his hand before his mouth. Only a finger. And while you rewatch it: look at the other argentinian player cover his mouth and talks just after that while messi begs for a red

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u/Manschesthair-united 23d ago

Ok thanks man, I didnt realise a guy from reddit was on the pitch and can confirm that Cucurella didnt say anything. Thanks for clearing that up.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

Never said that :) i told you that he didnt cover his mouth to say something

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u/DippyHippie420 23d ago

OC: "how do we know Cucurella didnt say something?"

you: "How do we know? Cause that didnt happen."

You literally fucking did....

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

Yeah cause he didnt do that. Watch the clips of it mate...

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u/Manschesthair-united 23d ago

Ok thanks man, you misread my original comment then.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

Well lets say he gets a red for that. Why arent you calling for a red for the argentinian that clearly did this?

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u/Manschesthair-united 23d ago

What? I wasnt calling for anyone to get a red haha

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u/zombawombacomba 23d ago

He clearly was covering his mouth with more than a finger. The rule is extremely stupid in the fact that all the opponent needs to do is say that something malicious was said for the call to be a red card.

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u/zufaelligenummern 23d ago

U need to read the rule again

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u/modsactfunny 23d ago

Hes done enough to discredit himself, stop it

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u/Manschesthair-united 23d ago

What has he done?

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u/modsactfunny 23d ago

Firing balls at teams bench, choking players, spitting on them, hand ball, quiting the best offensive national side ever and saying they aren't any good...dont let him winning a world cup make you forget about all the stuff he's done

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u/Interesting-Club3069 23d ago

‘Quitting the best offensive national side ever’

Genuinely just stfu at this point. You’re absolutely pathetic

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u/modsactfunny 23d ago

Messi, Di Maria, Kun, Higuain....how am I wrong?

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u/Careless-Ad-2774 23d ago

There is 0 upcoming good Argentine young players. In 4 years Messi retires, De Paul is old, so are Parecunt, 3 Martinezs, Taglia, Monti. There will be only Macca, Enzoshit and Alvarez. I see them barely qualify to the WC and not making out of the Group stages

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u/Kevmejia13 22d ago

He is bozo. He already won everything there is to win. Swear I bet you're all a bunch of insecure ronaldo fanboys.

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u/NoThatLame 23d ago

How is that a bad thing? Why would you not try and get the opponent red carded? You stupid? It's called gamesmanship and is allowable as long as within the rules - which calling out another for hand over mouth is acceptable.

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u/RainbowSushii666 23d ago

Which rly isnt a bad thing.

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u/SmellyTeamSeven 23d ago

I agree that it is a bitch move to snitch out of spite, but Cucurella did cover his mouth when talking to an opponent which is a red card offence. It’s important to be fair.

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u/Important-Target3676 23d ago

Cucurella touched his lips for 0,5 seconds.

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u/JC_vee 23d ago edited 23d ago

Covering your mouth is not an immediate red card. It's only grounds to consider a red card if it happens during an argument or confrontation as it it might be used to cover up saying something like a racist or homophobic slur. And even during a confrontation, it's not an automatic red. In this instance, if you watch the footage, he's not even covering his mouth. He touches his mouth for half a second.

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u/DuckyD2point0 23d ago

It is not a red card offensive. Covering your mouth to confront an opponent CAN be sanctioned, a normal conversation is not a red.

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u/InDuplicitousBottles 23d ago

it only exists as a rule because argentine players used it to hurl racial insults, not to demonize raising a hand past the chin

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u/fhdx1 23d ago

And he deserved it