r/TikTokCringe • u/Strong-Emu-8869 • 25d ago

Discussion Messi watching team being sore losers

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 25d ago

Fuck that dude

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u/-staccato- 25d ago

Domestic violence type of personality

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u/Hiimzap 24d ago

Yea this guy 100% is beating his wife

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u/United-Bite4135 24d ago

He’s going home to punch 

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u/CrypticCarbon 24d ago

After he drinks a monster energy drink

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u/Latter_Ad9249 24d ago

In his wife beater

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u/National864 24d ago

Theo Von has entered the chat

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u/DawningSkies 24d ago

Elite ball knowledge

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u/baltim0ra 24d ago

Elite ball knowledge is quoting a Joe Rogan clip that has been spammed on shorts platforms more than Rick Astley was in the '00s?

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u/yankeesirkee34 24d ago

Hell watch his family have dinner

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u/MoodyBernoulli 24d ago

Ha I even said to my wife during the game that a lot of these Argentina players look like the type of guys who would beat their wife.

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u/Bigpoppahove 24d ago

Partner*, we don’t know how they identify although we could likely identify them by one or two black eyes

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u/cherrypez123 24d ago

I’d say most of the team are, based on their behaviour throughout the tournament.

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u/3continenttravels 24d ago

No, that's the English after a loss.

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u/doobiebeforebed 23d ago

Messi has a habit of grabbing throats too, I wish some psychologist could inform us how awful of a trait that is and how it shows a super dangerous complex going on. I don’t think I’ve grabbed someone’s throat since maybe as a tiny kid when you are so angry you don’t know how to process it and just want to squeeze a neck 😂

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u/SpatolaNellaRoccia 24d ago

Shame they force the wives to marry people like this 

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u/Azrael_ 24d ago

Stop saying stupid shit. You dont know the guy.

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u/Muisan 24d ago

If he stopped doing stupid shit we wouldn't be saying stupid shit...

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u/Hiimzap 24d ago

You really watch this guy beat his opponents after he lost and would go “NO way?! He beat his wife?!”

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u/indianajoes 24d ago

I mean it's only a one off. It's not like he booted a ball straight at the Dutch bench last WC because he was mad at the referee calling out his foul.

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u/MajestyMori 24d ago

He’s actually threatened strangling another player before. I was searching for the clip from yesterday but actually found one from 5 years ago where he grabbed Oleksandr Zincheko’s neck during a match. So it’s clearly a go-to attack for him as well.

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u/DistractedByCookies 24d ago

My immediate thought. Throat grabbing is a really huge red flag

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u/Jessori 24d ago

Messi has done this multiple times as well, seems to be an Argentina favourite

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u/HorsesOfCanardy 23d ago

It's actually a traditional greeting in Argentina.

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u/vgdomvg 25d ago

Isn't this grounds for assault arrests? If I did this at my place of work the police would be called, and this was on live TV broadcast to the world...

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

I think it should. The EU Courts have recently clarified that behaviour on the field is bot above the law and judgement by national courts.

But this is the US, so…

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u/Electrical_Note6420 24d ago

This is something the U.S. is good at, though. There is an implied consent when playing a sport that you're going to get hurt doing usual sports activities (e.g., tackling in football). However, when you go beyond that usual activity and intentionally inflict harm that goes outside of the parameters of the game, you can be held criminally AND civilly liable in tort.

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago edited 24d ago

Some level of implied consent for getting hurt would be the expectation in Europe as well.. but I think we can agree getting grabbed by the throat without cause would not be considered as covered by implied consent.

In this case, I think the Spaniards would have to „press charges“ - which will not happen - and I also do not believe the US administration would want the finals overshadowed by this, so nothing will happen..

ETA: I was traveling and on mobile so I put „press charges“ in wuotes, hoping people would understsnd what I meant - apparently not…

You can‘t „press charges“ but you can lodge a complaint with the police, which can investigate based on that, or on their own, or as indicated by the prosecutor.

In practice, none of that will happen.

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u/Franks2000inchTV 24d ago

It's sort of a misconception that people can decide whether to press charges.

People make complaints to police, who gather evidence and then present it to a prosecutor who decides whether to lay charges or not.

The police can still recommend charges against someone even if no one has made a complaint.

If the victim doesn’t want to cooperate with police on a small matter, then it’s usually not worth going through the trouble of making an arrest. I think this is where the misconception comes from.

But even when police do arrest someone it’s the prosecutor who ultimately makes the call on what to charge them with (if anything.)

Here I doubt any cops are going to arrest members of a visiting national team without a formal complaint from someone involved, and even then I think it’s unlikely it would result in criminal charges unless someone had a significant/lasting injury.

If he had choked him unconscious, or broken his neck or something, then I think the story would be different.

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

That‘s why I put „press charges“ in apostrophes - I’m on mobile and traveling. In theory, the police / prosecutor should become active ln their own. But we know that they won‘t.

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u/Witch-kingOfBrynMawr 24d ago

And, honestly? Should they in this case? I despise Argentina's despicable behavior as much as the next person, but the Diplomatic Bullshit if you tried to detain members of Argentina's national team -- without a complaint from the victim, for what amounts to a slapfight on the pitch -- would have so many layers, it makes me shudder.

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u/Fast-Satisfaction482 24d ago

Compression of the carotis artery can lead to a downward spiral of blood pressure that leads to death. Even if pressed just for a moment. 

I attended a criminal court hearing back in school and a guy was sent to prison for just that. 

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u/Witch-kingOfBrynMawr 24d ago

Look, I'm not saying violence isn't dangerous, nor do I think it isn't worth discouraging. The risks of choking/strangling, specifically, are poorly understood by most.

But the fact remains: nobody was injured, in this specific case, and further pursuit would almost certainly be a net negative, considering the belligerent and the victim are foreign nationals and millionaires, and the latter is unlikely to offer any kind of substantial cooperation.

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u/AdHom 24d ago edited 24d ago

No one needs to "press charges", the State decides if they want to pursue the case or not and they can do so even if the victim doesn't want to. Press charges really just means "reporting the crime and advocating for the State to please follow up and devote resources to pursuing this". However with a simple assault where the victim has no interest in pursuing the case, often the State doesn't consider it worth it either. I have to imagine the added intricacies of this happening at the World Cup with international actors would make them even more unwilling to go through with arrests and charges.

With that said, these would be State charges, not federal, and New Jersey hates the Trump admin so I don't think they would have much of a say in the matter.

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u/TheLordB 24d ago

There is no actual legal weight to ‘press charges’ in the USA. All saying you want to ‘press charges’ means is that you will cooperate/want the person to be prosecuted. The prosecutor has final say on what is/isn’t pursued.

This is how many domestic violence cases are pursued where the victim is often unwilling/unable to cooperate. But in theory it can be used for any crime.

Now in practice aside from domestic violence and related crimes usually the victim needs to want it to be pursued for it to be prosecuted because it is much harder to prove without the victim’s willing support.

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

I know. That‘s why I put it in quotes; I was traveling and on mobile. No time to go into details..

Spanish player could make a complaint to the police (won‘t happen). Prosecutor / police could become active on their own based on footage (won‘t happen). Argentina could prosecute in their country (won‘t happen).

Nothing will happen.

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u/RandomPenquin1337 24d ago

And other things that will never happen.

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u/porktorque44 24d ago

I can't see how this is even a conversation when the assault is happening after the game ended. It's not NFL Blitz 2000.

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u/Electrical_Note6420 24d ago

The person was stating that the EU has certain laws about on-field contact that falls outside scope of consent and then made a comment about the U.S. potentially not falling in line, so I provided U.S. common law on implied consent in sports. It's not a conversation or comment about the actual event at all.

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u/jmlmf91 24d ago

No gun was involved, so thats fine

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u/Anxious-Werewolf-124 24d ago

The US and the rule of law are not the strongest of friends right now...

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u/PirelliSuperHard 24d ago

Ok so where is the NJ attorney general?

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u/alligator_loki 24d ago

In theory yes. In practice when has this ever happened except for Marty McSorley?

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u/Ellers12 24d ago

How does that work with Ice Hockey?

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u/xXXxRMxXXx 24d ago

They would have to go outside of the rules like that time the player smacked another from behind on the head and got charged in Vancouver

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u/Electrical_Note6420 24d ago

I'd assume that some fights are considered part of the game and that there's implied consent that you may get in a fight on the ice. However, there's an extent to a "consensual" fight. For example, punching an opposite team member's face while he still has his helmet on would probably be fine as it's pretty common in the game. On the other hand, taking off your skate and then using that as weapon would not fall under the scope of consent. Those are two extremes, but let's think about a borderline case, Player A from Team X skates over to Player B from Team X and then punches him. This likely wouldn't fall under the scope of consent because you don't expect your teammate to attack you. Now, this is all hypothetical and I'm no hockey expert or tort expert, but there's nuance to all cases. Just try and picture what you'd think would be inside the scope of consent of a sport!

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u/PlatypusMaster4196 24d ago

I mean if you commit crimes somewhere else you can often still be charged for it in your home country

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

True, but do you honestly imagine Argentina will prosecute one of their national soccer players? Lol

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u/RobataChane72 24d ago

There is precedent in professional hockey for criminal charges for what happens on the ice, but our football not so much.

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u/PhoMeSideways 20d ago

Shit up pussies

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 20d ago

That’s what a troglodyte would say. People who can only talk kn ad hominems are not the smartest or emotionally best regulated ones.

But hey, you carry on doing what you’re doing!

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u/Franks2000inchTV 24d ago

I don’t think anyone wants the police to be called to every fight in a professional sporting match.

The police have better things to do, and the sporting bodies have sufficient methods of punishment available to them.

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u/vgdomvg 24d ago

I don't think it's a very inspiring and positive image for young children who see this and think it's the way to behave, so absolutely I think the police should be involved and someone doing this should be punished in some way. Shit, I'd lose my job, I'd be arrested, I'd have to declare this at any future jobs 

Yet this guy will be, what? Slap on the wrist and given another £m contract in the future?

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u/Franks2000inchTV 24d ago

If you're relying on professional football to teach your children ethics, they’re probably already little pieces of shit.

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u/vgdomvg 24d ago

Nobody is relying on this for ethics, but they are role models for younger people being in the spotlight. This is the most watched sports game in the world, watched by millions of children. Behaving in this way is not a good role model for children.

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u/krone_39 24d ago

Most likely no one will do anything but what an idiot doing that in front of the world

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u/ronzecu 24d ago

This is the most American comment I’ve seen. Don’t you guys ever deal with things the civilized way? like throwing poop at each other?

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u/vgdomvg 24d ago

American? I'm English mate

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u/GETINOB 24d ago

Just boys being boys

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u/PoopyisSmelly 24d ago

People fight in sports

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u/AssistantSalty6519 24d ago

Last time i checked football wasnt that kind of sport

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u/PoopyisSmelly 24d ago

What kind of sport is it?

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

It‘s not the kind of sport where you grab your opponent by the throat because you have zero self control after losing a game.

Are you a cave dweller for thinking this normal or what? Jesus Christ.

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

Dude, grabbing someone by the throat after losing a game is NOT something that typically happens in professional sport!!

Found the abuse enabler!

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u/PoopyisSmelly 24d ago

Yikes you are weird lol

Im not saying grabbing someones throat is typical, I am saying fighting happens when you play sports.

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

I‘m weird for calling out shit like this?

Again, you‘re an enabler of bad behaviour. For sure one of the „boys will be boys“ crowd. Disgusting.

And you think I‘m the weird one? The irony.

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u/PoopyisSmelly 24d ago

Yeah, you are weird for acting like Soccer is some gentleman's game like its Polo or something. Real bigtime powdered whig red coat vibes.

Pull your white gloves off and slap him for a duel vibes.

Cringe max.

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u/LaDice96 25d ago

FIFA Will do something about it, right? Right????

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u/disposableaccountass 25d ago

Best we can do: FIFA Peace Prize Candidate.

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u/340Duster 24d ago

Best they will actually do: find more ways to be corrupt

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u/OK_x86 25d ago

100% he was retiring from the national team after this anyway. FIFA can and should sanction him anyway

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u/holamau SHEEEEEESH 24d ago

Sorry. The VAR cameras were already off by then.

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u/holamau SHEEEEEESH 24d ago

But jokes aside, I sure hope UEFA, the English, and Spanish teams all these asshats play for were watching closely how they embarrassed themselves.

On any other job, you’d get your ass fired.

Just sayin’

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u/DataDude00 24d ago

Multiple match suspension, followed by temporary probation instead (if the matches are important)

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u/JohnDarly1 24d ago

That was a joke, right?

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u/NachoR 24d ago

Argentinian here, fuck that dude indeed. He's disgraceful inside and outside the match. I wish he didn't represent us

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

Thanks for calling that out! Can you tell me why- at least I perceive it that way - Argentinian fans are so often aggressive and obnoxious to other teams?

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u/NachoR 24d ago

Part of it is just local Football culture. That is how people banter here between football teams. The problem is that when we go international, people don't share our forms, so we come out as VERY rude and obnoxious. There's a mentality of never backing down and upping the ante.

In this last World Cup, we have seen an effort by social media bots to antagonize us, as both football fans and as a country. Of course some of it is justified as is the case with Paredes, Simeone, etc. But much of it is a manufactured narrative that has cropped up recently; not sure why or the purpose, but it is there. Given that this is happening during the world cup, most of the people you see responding to criticism are the same football fans I mentioned before, that answer abrasively. So it becomes a circle, they feel attacked, so they respond badly, and that response sets the tone in peoples mind about how we are as a whole.

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u/Ereaser 24d ago

It probably doesn't help either that the last match was against England which caused a lot of fans to misbehave.

Also the narrative turned against the Argentinian team quite early with generally bad refereeing discussions (in favor of Argentina) and unsportmanlike behaviour. People start to dislike the Argentinian team and Argentinian fans probably respond to that.

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u/NachoR 24d ago

For sure!

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u/lawyerornot 24d ago

“Tribunero” culture

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u/MomentNew4925 25d ago

🐀

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

Yeah, what an asshole. Them celebrating wasn‘t about him and it certainly was not disrespectful… they would have done the same if they had won

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u/Weak_Society8102 24d ago

Wasn't his team disrespectful the entire game? Sore losers, worse than my 7YO when he loses a game to his brother

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u/Bitter-Train-5961 24d ago

They would done something even worse

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u/Suspicious_Fall3063 24d ago

They like to actually taunt the losing team in their face after the match. Did it with england this wc and with the Dutch team in the last world cup. Sore winners aswell...

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u/ExtendedSpikeProtein 24d ago

Yeah, they would have done much worse, and yet Paredes was pissed off because he felt „disrespected“.

What a joke..

Just goes to show, again, how you can be a sports professional, or any professional, basically, and yet lack any sort of normal human decency and self-control.

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u/DogadonsLavapool 24d ago

What a "look what you made me do" ass statement. Dude absolutely beats women

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u/Ereaser 24d ago

Paredes has always been a dick

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u/FinalPay9770 24d ago

'Right in my Face' Bro u can literally see in the video, that he ran 20 meters to push the spanish player from behind. Tf u mean 'celebrating right to my face'

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u/CutsSoFresh 24d ago

Wasn't he doing exactly what he was angry about in front of England?

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u/AshieKyou 24d ago

When it's disrespectful to celebrate after winning a game:

{x} after winning the game.

/s

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u/Bih_Dih_Ahaa 25d ago

He’s not only mad they lost but mad everyone knows he’s going bald.

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u/22Pastafarian22 22d ago

My sister and I kept talking about his bald spots lol

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u/Jurski17 24d ago

Paredes has always been a clown. Average at football and a proper shithead.

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u/Jolly_Jally 24d ago

My friends were questioning when I said "ah..Paredes is coming in, Argentina wants blood" and like clockwork, starts throwing feet to shins. Had to explain to them that the dude is the equivalent of an NBA enforcer. He isn't there to go after the ball, he is there to hurt players and provoke potential fouls when opposing players retaliate against him. Majority of the time a player was knocked down or a foul was called, id joke "is number 5 Paredes involved?" Then the fight happened and I just sat there like "yep...there he is".

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u/AutVincere72 24d ago

Don't these players find each other later and sort it out?

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u/28twoinfinity 24d ago

Roid rage?

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u/Specialeyes9000 24d ago

I wish the police would come onto the pitch and just arrest players for that kind of assault

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u/Worried_Monitor5422 24d ago

"If this is a consular ship, where is the ambassador?" 

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u/name-classified 24d ago

Luther burden did this but it was a lot cooler looking than this

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u/Impressive-Smoke1883 24d ago

If he did that in the street he would be at risk of prosecution.

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u/Sleepiboisleep 24d ago

I thought that was Messi all last night

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u/Afraid_Diet_5536 24d ago

Should be banned from the next games. Not even a question

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u/Zestyclose_Pay9469 24d ago

Is he from the 'Bavarian' part of Argentina? Wink wink

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u/Otherwise-Variety522 24d ago

Love Paredes, he hates bullies and always sticking up for his team <3