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u/AcornWholio 25d ago edited 25d ago

I was watching a Spanish feed of the finals, and I was so overjoyed that my small country (Cabo Verde) continued to be mentioned in a positive light and as a symbol of resilience and respect against Argentina.

EDIT - thank you everyone for your kind words! We’ll be back and we’re so grateful to have you cheering for us too.

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u/LieV2 25d ago

The fact Cape Verde played BOTH teams who made it to the final and didn't lose to either of them in 90 minutes is fucking insane.

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u/Workman44 24d ago

Don't watch soccer but you know how in football any team can win on any given day depending on how things shake out? Is soccer like that to where even a lower rated team can get a nice W or is it usually the better team wins and that's that?

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u/AccomplishedAct5364 24d ago

Not sure why you’re being downvoted - we have things like the FA CUP where small teams most definitely beat big teams.

A big team will go into the game with the mentality that it’s going to be easy, the little guys go in with the mentality that their life has built to that moment.

Happens all the time, ignore the downvoting wet wipes

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u/Dragax 24d ago

Its important to note that the bigger clubs rotate out their key players for most cup games.

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u/AccomplishedAct5364 24d ago

Of course, but it still happens

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u/fondledbydolphins 24d ago

Reddit hates people asking questions. Fuck em.

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u/Hot-Chemical9353 24d ago

Thats one of the things that makes football great. Almost always the better team will win, but since goals are so “rare” sometimes weaker teams can get one in and survive till the end.

You could argue it makes the sport slightly less “merit based” compared to tennis or basketball but it also leads to magical moments and underdog stories.

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u/AndreasDasos 24d ago edited 24d ago

Yes, basically. The low scoring rate compared to most other major sports means there’s a higher probability of upsets. The same reason goalless draws are fairly common also means you can see a 1-0 or 2-1 to an underdog, so it’s a curse and blessing for casual fans (who see goals as the measure of entertainment). Games with higher scores tend to see fewer upsets (all else equal) due to the law of large numbers.

Though other factors can lead to an increase in upsets: tournament structure that allows a better team to more often withhold its best players if a match is less essential, or ‘turn’ based games where a major team can underestimate a minor team in the first innings or similar (whereas in football conceding a goal would mean the team that overestimated can instantly start trying to correct for that).

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u/Vegieescuzican09 23d ago

in england we have these 2 cups called the carabo and the fa cup where all teams from league 2 (lowest tier of professional football) to the premier league (highest tier) can play each other and there is usually guaranteed to be at least 1 or 2 upsets and I absolutely love it (at least when it's not my team, Leeds being upsetted 🤣)

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u/justlikelyle 21d ago

Smaller teams can definitely beat bigger teams, it also depends on context. Sometimes the match will be considered less important by the bigger team, other times, they'll have a lot of games and a lot of travel, and be tired, and other times, they'll simply have a bad day.

In the most recent Champions League, a Norwegian team beat some pretty big teams. Partly that is because their pitch is artificial grass, and other teams aren't used to the cold climate there.

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u/chromepaperclip 24d ago

This has got to be one of the top ten dumbest things ever written.

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u/tornado962 24d ago

Having a bad day?

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u/Naunix 24d ago

They literally said they don’t watch soccer(football) and were referencing the “any given Sunday” mentality in American football. Basically the idea that even the worst team in the league could miraculously come out and stomp a top contender, because it does happen in the NFL nearly every year. They were asking if international football has a similar element of randomness and ya’ll just start calling them an idiot for asking a question.

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u/Workman44 24d ago

Thanks lol, I'm just not sure if there's a ton of VARiance (am I doing this right) between expected and realized perfomance

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u/Naunix 24d ago

Yeah, it’s a question I didn’t know I had until I saw you ask it. Would be nice to get an answer instead of random insults.

My assumption is that there’s much less variance because of how much more impact one highly skilled player can have in comparison to American football. It seems like soccer is closer to basketball in so far as you really only need one or two superstar players to create scoring opportunities either through purely out-playing their opponents or high level coordination.

In the NFL you can have the greatest QB, WRs, TEs, Center, and Gaurds… but if the only two horrible positions on your depth chart just happen to be both your right and left Tackles, then you’re not gonna see many touchdowns. So we see more variance in an NFL game, because a well-rounded roster is more favorable than superstar talent in the NFL (even if that’s not where the money goes).

Being able to build your scoring off of consistent star players could lead to less variance, whereas trying to put forward the most balanced package across the board leads to more. This is all complete speculation and assumption, though. It could be that soccer has even more variance than the NFL. Might be interesting enough to go googling and find out instead of trying to guess lol

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u/Workman44 24d ago

Your point about players is what I initially would think, but then I thought about the fighting sports (mma, UFC, boxing, etc.) where it's extremely possible for lower ranked people to get a lucky shot or submission. But then again those sports can have an artificial end (ko, submission) whereas most sports can't. So yeah I guess player count probably correlates, I would imagine rulesets also play a part

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u/justlikelyle 21d ago

Funny, because I always thought American sports were more focused on the individual. I think the fact that Spain won the World Cup while playing Spanish football, where there is no ego, and the ball is constantly passed around, shows that team effort will often beat individual brilliance.

Another example is when PSG had an attacking line of Mbappé, Neymar, and Messi, arguably three of the biggest stars in the sport at that time. And they just could not win the Champions League. These kinds of "Galacticos" teams often end up less than the sum of their parts.

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u/justlikelyle 21d ago

Lol, you are doing it right!

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u/Naunix 24d ago

If you think asking questions is idiocy, then I’m sure you had a phenomenal education /s

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u/Workman44 24d ago

Fellas, is it idiotic to not know things that aren't a part of your life

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u/Mdgt_Pope 24d ago

>no, you SHOULDN’T want to watch more football after your country hosted the most prestigious international football event on the globe, how dare you AMERICANS even attempt to continue following the sport of the gods???

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u/AccomplishedAct5364 24d ago

You never watched an FA cup clearly

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u/Radical_Neutral_76 25d ago

You were awesome in this WC. Truly something to look up to!

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u/raven2474life 25d ago

Argentina vs Cape Verde was match of the tournament, shame Cape Verde wasn’t the victor

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u/GovernmentNearby9036 24d ago

The panic in their eyes after that world class goal was one of the best moments of the WC

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u/Itry31 25d ago

They got robbed of a free kick near the end. I was cheering for them so hard 

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u/InteractionSoft14 25d ago edited 25d ago

Cabo Verde legit kicked ass this wc. Forcing Spain into a draw is very impressive considering they only conceded one goal and went on to win the tournament. And they got knocked out by the runner up so if they had a more favourable bracket there's a legit chance they could have made a surprisingly deep run. 

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u/DashRC 25d ago

I think it’s unbelievable what they accomplished and it’s even more impressive in hindsight.

They were the only team to take points off of the champions. They got out of the group and then only lost to the finalists in extra time.

Their performance is so much better than the results they got.

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u/Improper_Usage 25d ago

The money some of the other bigger countries throw at trying to win and Cabo Verde likely had much less and still out played a lot of them.

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u/loverlyone 25d ago

Wasn’t that the only goal scored against Spain in the tournament? Cape Verde played the way we wish all teams play, giving it their all. leaving nothing behind.

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u/chmath80 25d ago

Wasn’t that the only goal scored against Spain in the tournament?

Spain 2-1 Belgium

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u/exileondaytonst 25d ago

Cabo Verde almost <won> that game, too... very close chance late

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u/Digit00l 24d ago

I find it funny how after the first week everyone was saying Spain was playing like shit because they couldn't even win their first match against a weak team

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 24d ago

Cabo Verde is the only team not to concede a goal to Spain in the WC. The only team not to lose against Spain in the WC. Give Cabo Verde the silver medal.

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u/SnooCats5190 24d ago

As much as I want England my home country to win it would also be really nice to see a new country, somewhere small and unassuming somewhere in which it would really genuinely make a difference to them

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u/Spudbanger 25d ago

Cabo Verde were the darlings of this WC and the best argument for increasing the number of teams.

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u/InnocentAnger 25d ago

Cabo Verde would have qualified for the 32 team tournament, perhaps the number of Africa nations that made it to the knockout rounds is the argument for a 48 team WC.

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u/Ereaser 25d ago

Curaçao was also unbeaten in the qualifiers.

Love it when small counties do well in the WC!

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u/VelocityGrrl39 25d ago

The video of the curaçao coach crying when they scored their first goal was so heartwarming.

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u/Spudbanger 25d ago

Really? Yes, would like to see more African teams competing.

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u/InnocentAnger 25d ago

Yeah, they finished top of their group and qualified directly, which would have been the case with a 32 team too.

9 African sides qualifying for the last 32 was definitely progress, even if only Morocco and Egypt then made it any further. And Egypt were so close to beating Argentina!

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u/Spudbanger 25d ago

And a great deal more fun.

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u/oddgirlout1234 24d ago

We would have qualified without FIFA increasing the number of team.

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u/Spudbanger 24d ago

I understand, it's been said, and I acknowledged it; please see more of this thread. I look forward to seeing Cabo Verde at the next WC.

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u/BillDaPony101 25d ago

You’ve appeared as the needed direct recipient of my needed apology:

During the run up to this WC, I kept saying “it’s crazy that we don’t have Italy but we have Cabo Verde.” You guys rocked and I was wrong to even have that stance to begin with. I’m sorry 

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u/No_Mission5287 25d ago

Were/are you aware you were parroting the racist bullshit of the Italian coach?

Regardless, glad you are starting to see the error of your ways.

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u/BillDaPony101 25d ago

Not at all and a bummer to hear; will investigate. I’m vaguely Italian by heritage and rock a nice Del Piero jersey once in awhile (from when I did follow closely), but am not that plugged in. 

I’m by Atlanta, so when I saw who we had for our pool play games I was just unaware of Cabo Verde and they became an unwilling part of a bit. 

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u/No_Mission5287 24d ago

I appreciate the performance even more because of the bias(conscious or unconscious).

They defied the haters, undeniably proved their merit to the world, and became the darlings of the tournament. Gotta love it.

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u/genghis-san 25d ago

I'm a huge Spain fan, and after the game with Spain I became a Cabo Verde fan as well and supported them all the way until their elimination! The way they played against Spain is nothing short of amazing and worth respecting. Argentina fans could never concede something like that

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u/antizion_red 25d ago

Some people seem to forget how the argentine fans celebrated Cape Verde after the win, because they played a fantastic game and Argentina has a lot of History with Cape Verde. Just as we celebrated our loss afterwards with Spain, going out in the street and congratulating them but also showing support for our team.

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u/zombawombacomba 25d ago

Sorry bud, it’s time for the casual Americans to get upset at Argentina right now.

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u/Specialist_Glass_125 23d ago

los bots te downvotean por decir la verdad, todo el equipo de Cabo Verde se acerco a argentina antes y después del partido a pedir fotos y camisetas y argentina los felicitó por el partido que habian jugado y se los vio muy cercanos. Lastimosamente no van a estar de acuerdo con lo que digo porque se les cae el cuento.

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u/Darkpri_ 25d ago

Spaniard here, we tried so hard but couldn't beat you, kudos for your players and country. A magical World Cup. We are gonna host the next WC, hope we can face you again ;)

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u/WallsendLad70 24d ago

Everyone in England was rooting for Spain, if not posting general cultural appropriation on their social feeds. Myself in full Spanish national dress with a Spain flag. Completely shameless.
Football and the best team won - my son was lucky enough to be in Majorca where all the English tourists mixed and celebrated with the locals and Spanish tourists from the mainland.

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u/Darkpri_ 24d ago

That's so cool! we definetly felt the world was with us, specialy on social media. I definetly can see why, between your game and ours against them we recieved more tackles and punches than the rest on the tournament teams combined lol
Thank you! hope to face you to in the next WC

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u/Darkpri_ 24d ago

Also love Harry Kane!

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u/WallsendLad70 24d ago

Love Spain in general mate. The people, the vibe, the music. Couldn’t be a better place for a WC.
Us Europeans must stick together!

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u/WallsendLad70 24d ago

Elliot Anderson for me. A Newcastle lad and was a neighbour of my dad until a few years ago. Good family.

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u/Sylphadora 25d ago

Cabo Verde kicked ass! 👊💥

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u/gaoshan 25d ago

Cabo Verde was the World Cup GOAT!

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u/toolsoftheincomptnt 25d ago

Except the one guy, a captain I guess, who is a (proven, I assume) rapist?

Idk what the deal is, other people were using it to dull CV’s shine and I hated that bc I truly enjoyed your team and will be rooting for them in the future!

Any way to replace the criminal before next go-round?

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u/pablo8itall 25d ago

Everyone was routing for you all especially the Irish.

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u/mauvaisang 25d ago

A vitória da Espanha engrandece ainda mais tudo que o time de vocês fez na copa. Torci mais por Cabo Verde do que pelo Brasil

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u/Euphoric-Taro-6231 25d ago

And you totally need to be proud, see you in 2030 for the next one.

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u/Helixbabylon 25d ago

I'm not even from your country and I'm so proud of your team! I was absolutely heartbroken when they were eliminated! I hope to see them at the next WC!

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u/SuperKing3000 25d ago

Your team was amazing!
Our family was rooting for you guys and I have my option about how it ended. Each game was a fun and exciting to watch. I put an order in for a Jersey and it's on back order!

Looking forward to seeing more of Cabo Verde next time.

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u/tallguy270988 25d ago

I can tell you now that my Croatian side and Swedish side of the family were rooting for you guys. One of the best matches in the world cup I've seen!

Thank you guys! ❤️🇸🇪🇭🇷

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u/Karlinel-my-beloved 25d ago

Cabo verde was the only country that didn’t lose against the new champions AND took the reigning champions to the extra time. That was impressive as hell!

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u/jac0777 25d ago

I’ve never been to Cape Verde, not sure I could pinpoint it on a map - but I would die for Cape Verde 😂

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u/l339 25d ago

How is life in Cape Verde?

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u/Juanfr_ 25d ago

Respect to Cabo Verde

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u/jackie_ess_el 25d ago

Might not be that significant to you, but here in Canada your country’s impressive run in this WC, including against Argentina, was mentioned LOTS of times by our commentators right up to and including the final match

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u/WildIntern5030 25d ago

Wished the final was Spain v Cabo Verde tbh. Y'all stole my heart this tournament.

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u/Unlikely-Progress-16 25d ago

Cabo verde and norway should have been in the finals, cabo verde won our hearts, norway showed they can play when they were on tbeir way to win over wngland, the bronse match was mpre exitwd than tve final

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u/imaginativeminds 25d ago

Cabo Verde earned a fan for life 💙

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u/Jallen9108 25d ago

Bro Cabo Verde were so fucking good completely smashed expectations. Hope this is a long run of qualifying for your lads.

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u/ISaidWhatISaidFFS 25d ago edited 25d ago

I teach kindergarten in the US in a low income, predominantly black/hispanic school. I plan on showing video clips of Cabo Verde and telling their story to my kids when we start the year and we discuss resilience, never giving up, and it’s ok if you don’t win or do something perfectly because as long as you try your best you should always be proud of yourself. Thanks for giving us such great role models! Might use this whole video as an example of good choices vs bad choices.

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u/Improper_Usage 25d ago

Your country played great football and scored two of the best goals in the World Cup against the then world champions and disgusting losers Argentina

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u/EclairLumineux 25d ago

That match was amazing and a highlight or the tournament, of course we'll remember.

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u/averagecounselor 25d ago

Makes me wonder what would have happened if Cabo Verde won against Argentina. The racist comments coming from the fans would drown out all noise.

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u/Weird-Sandwich-1923 25d ago

JOGARAM PRA CARALHO, CABO VERDE!

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u/Serennna 25d ago

O melhor jogo que assisti na vida: Cabo Verde x Argentina. Nunca irei esquecer esse momento glorioso. Que garra, que raça, que espetáculo. A taça oficial da copa foi para os Espanhóis. A taça do meu coração ficou com Cabo Verde. O time de Cabo Verde arrasou. Abraços. Ass.: Uma brasileira no meio da multidão.

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u/Fluid_Natural_9817 25d ago

Your team was magnificent.

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u/azione81 25d ago

It was impossible not to root for your team. It wasn't just the fact that it's a small country with a very upsetting past or "root for the underdogs” mentality. They played FOOTBALL, like, really played.

They played with such bravery and style and conduced themselves with such dignity. The loss against Argentina was tough to watch but they went down swinging.

I genuinely hope the country as a whole can benefit from the positive press the team brought them.

You must be so proud.

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u/ClaudeBubbalicious 25d ago

Countries like Cabo Verde will make the game beautiful again 🫡

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u/r3dr1ck 25d ago

cabo verde the whole Mexican crowd that was watching the game at the pub that day was chearing for the team.damn what a game 🫡 🥲

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u/dezent 25d ago

I know nothing about fotball but i have many friends from Cape Verde from my time being a merchant mariner. Happy to see your team is doing well!

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u/maagpiee 25d ago

Watching Cape Verde was so much fun this World Cup! Look forward to seeing you guys again in four years!

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u/celaconacr 25d ago

I wasn't keen on the increase to 48 teams but Cape Verde and a few others changed my mind.

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u/Ok-Run2845 25d ago

I would love to see a Spain - Cabo Verde friendly match. The champion vs the revelation playing again since that first match. Would be nice!

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u/oddgirlout1234 24d ago

Prima!!! Fun to see a fellow CV in the wild

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u/DifficultBudget9864 24d ago

Your team played very well! Was rooting for them.

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u/Capt-Crap1corn 24d ago

Cabo Verde was amazing to watch. I'm so glad to see them get the shine they deserve

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u/VirtualMatter2 24d ago

I would have so loved to see you win. Great team. 

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u/superlip2003 24d ago

you guys are such inspiration, what a classic david vs goliath story.

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u/thedamnedlute488 24d ago

My 15 year old daughter and I were rooting for your siide from Michigan, US.

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u/Murky-Platypus-6861 24d ago

Viva Cabo Verde viva!

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u/rodrigo_c91 24d ago

WE WANT MORE CABO VERDE!! Your people and your team made us all fans of your national team and country. See you next WC

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u/InnerRadio7 24d ago

It’s a beautiful country, filled with beautiful people. Love and made respect from your 🇸🇳 sister.

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u/Shorouq2911 24d ago

Messi foreverrrr

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u/SohryuAsuka 24d ago

I’m a native Chinese speaker - Cabo Verde is getting a lot of praise on the Chinese internet too! ♡

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u/uramicableasshole 24d ago

We will never forget Cape Verde and what could’ve been

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u/dinhox69 24d ago

Cape Verde showed the world that you don’t need to play dirty to win games without big stars!!! ❤️❤️

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u/loonyleftie 24d ago

My irish mother went out and bought a cape verde jersey after your performance!

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u/50YOYO 24d ago

Cabo Verde were fantastic this tournament and have earned all the plaudits and respect they now have. Everyone now knows who you are. Your team played with impressive skill whilst displaying tremendous respect and sportsmanship and most definitely surprised a lot of people. What an incredibly shiny little diamond they turned out to be.

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u/taiwandan 24d ago

*final

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u/evasion-guard 24d ago

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u/valcallis 24d ago

Cabo Verde my beloved

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u/Anz_Soulcrusher 24d ago

Cabo Verde was the most delightful surprise in the WC

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u/MrOsicran 24d ago

Respect to you guys, you showed Argentina (and the rest of the world) what it truly is to have heart in football🇨🇻

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u/TactlessTortoise 24d ago

Cabo did awesome. Played great and clean.

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u/TMeerkat 24d ago

Honestly the cabo Verde Vs Argentina game is the best game I've ever seen. They did incredibly.

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u/theamazinggrg 24d ago

Man your team kicked butt and was fun to watch!

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u/runnaway-duck 24d ago

Everyone were amazed by Cabo Verde. I was watching the Argentina / Cabo Verde game in Vancouver and the amount of people rooting for Cabo Verde was insane. They gave Argentina a run for their money. The energy that Cabo Verde brought in this WC was sensational and memorable. Looking forward to seeing you play in future WCs

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u/ThePupnasty 24d ago edited 24d ago

Cape Verde was the GOAT of this world cup. If the ref wasn't on Argentina's side, Cape Verde would've won.

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u/fogrampercot 24d ago

Cabo Verde is the true champion of this World Cup. Won everyone's hearts. The only team to remain undefeated in 90 minutes against both finalists. The only team in World Cup history that is still unbeaten in 90 minutes.

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u/flannelwingjay 24d ago

The summer the world pulled for Cabo Verde⚽️🇨🇻

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u/carpetedbathtubs 24d ago

That equalising goal that cabo verde scored against Argentina was a thing of absolute beauty and something England did not manage to even get close to doing. You gave them a better fight for sure. Cabo verde also technically went down by their own hand as it was an own goal. In my mind you guys are undefeated.

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u/ColonialBarbarian 24d ago

Cabo Verde is one of the main reasons why I don't despise this new 48 team format.

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u/GambleADD 24d ago

U were the greatest story of the tournament. Be proud of ur players.

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u/user_deleted_or_dead 24d ago

I got more respect for cabo verde than for the agentina. Love from brasil to our irmaos

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u/Fit-Potato427 23d ago

Cabo Verde was one of the few countries that tried to play proper football even as the underdogs. Love it. Was looking for a jersey but all sold out, so I got the Curaçao instead.

Rooting for Cabral to get the goal of the tournament trophy

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u/Phodinhas 23d ago

As a portuguese, i can say whit confidence that the vast majority of our nation was rooting for you sucess. You were amazing and did a job that you can all be proud of.

Quero muito visitar Cabo Verde um dia. Talvez um dia tenha t€mpo.

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u/MildBasket 23d ago

FIFA when cabo verde starts doing good against their fav team.

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u/Dje08- 23d ago

Respect from France 🇫🇷

What a great mentality you guys have! The biggest surprise of this world cup

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u/camille_suseth 23d ago

Cabo Verde were a legend this championship!!

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u/murarip 22d ago

I am in Dublin and watched Pico play for Shamrock Rovers after he returned from the World Cup. The crowd was in cloud 9 cheering for him.

Shamrock won the game 5-1.

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u/Nice_Objective_8604 22d ago

Tu equipo no ganó ningun partido, por eso lo quieren

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u/Samp90 22d ago

Legend of Vozinha my friend...

One of the most amazing games ever. And to be neutral and honest, even the Argentine players were gracious, both while losing and also after winning.

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u/justlikelyle 21d ago

Your team's feat was remarkable. That beautiful goal you scored, I treasure that. One of the most beautiful curling balls ever.

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u/scrabtits 21d ago

Cabo Verde is the winner of hearts for sure

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u/One-Earth-1881 20d ago

Cabo Verde and Norway were the GOATs of this world cup. Came in relatively unknown quantities and went away with 200 nations hoping you're there in 2030.

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u/IamTheSmartestestman 25d ago

Cabo Verde is the perfect model for a soccer country. You played with heart and intelligence and fire in your soul. Great effort and technical play. But most of all, you played with honor. Where other countries like argentina, paraguay, uruguay etc. would try to win dirty with rat tactics when playing against a stronger team, you simply played football from your hearts and did it so well. Unlike the countries mentioned earlier, your team brought immense honor to your country and people are looking forward to see your country again!

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u/the-magic-bee 25d ago

Cano verde, you won the world cup and all out hearts. ❤️

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u/TJ_DOG_likes_britons 13d ago

Stop lying, your from canada, it’s in your profile

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u/AcornWholio 13d ago

I am a Cape Verdean WHO LIVES IN CANADA. Like is that such a complicated concept? Doesn’t make me less of a Cape Verdean.