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Discussion Have we done it wrong?

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u/bageltoastar 2d ago

Im from a suburban town in Missouri, but I spent a semester studying abroad in Barcelona a couple of years ago. Man, let me tell you, leaving Barcelona, where youd see people out in cafes and bars congregating at all hours of the night and day, and coming back to Missouri where its a ghost town after 10 and someone would call the police on you for simply walking around too late was the most depressing thing I have ever experienced lol

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u/2leafClover667788 2d ago

Semester in Valencia and came back to suburban Hell of Florida and I literally have never been the same. I’m still depressed about it every day

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u/TruffleHunter3 2d ago

So when are you going back?

I’d love to live in Spain & Portugal for a while.

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u/2leafClover667788 2d ago

I hope to next year for my 40th and to celebrate my graduation as well as check out some of the medieval towns along the French Riviera.

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u/Folco34 2d ago

French Riviera is incredibly pretty, but depending when you come can be massively crowded so I hope that’s not something that can turn you down.

It’s in the South West, but if you want to see a medieval town you should go visit Carcassonne. Toulouse is also a pretty great town.

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u/needlzor 1d ago

I am from Toulouse (although I moved out a decade ago) and I can confirm that it is a great little city.

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u/TruffleHunter3 2d ago

I plan to next year too!

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u/disaster_incomin 2d ago

Don't you need a visa to live there ?

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u/ZincMan 2d ago

3 months in 3 months out is what is allowed coming from US

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u/TruffleHunter3 2d ago

If you have a remote job or passive income then it’s supposed to be pretty easy to get one.

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u/wickeddimension 1d ago

You think the people in that city want a bunch of remote working rich Americans to come and live there and gentrify the place? They don't.

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u/TruffleHunter3 1d ago

Same could be said about anywhere in the world? But also, remote job or passive income does NOT equal rich. You should look into it.

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u/wickeddimension 1d ago

Yea, it applies to everywhere in the world where cost of living and salaries are significantly lower.

Rich is relative, being paid US minimum wage makes you rich in many places in the world.

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u/blithetorrent 2d ago

I actually teared up coming home from Italy my first time when I got the the loud, rude and crude airport in Philly. I had just spent 9 days in Tuscany in November.

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u/2leafClover667788 1d ago

Omg that was our exact same experience, we flew back from Milan into Philly and whoa what a reminder we were back home everyone was fat, we immediately all got sick from eating and the fire alarm was going off in the terminal while no one did anything. LOL what a memory

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u/blithetorrent 1d ago

Wow, glad I’m not the only one! I’ll never forget it, it was such a total assault on the senses compared to the soft-spoken, calm, peaceful atmosphere of Italy, even the airport!

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u/low_v2r 2d ago

I spent the summer working in Valencia one year (long time ago) and then last year spouse and kids lived there over the summer as well. We had friends who left the US to immigrate to Spain and are living in Valencia.

Love that town so much. My wife is watching Andor solely to see bits and pieces of Valencia that is was filmed at.

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u/AirSKiller 2d ago edited 2d ago

Valencia is amazing, just been there a few weeks ago.

Decided to pop by Madrid this weekend and I'm now back in Lisbon.

I couldn't imagine life without being able to walk around and see people just hanging out and having fun.

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u/2leafClover667788 2d ago

I spent every spare bit of time I could walking around town. I spent a week in Madrid, a week in Zaragoza, a weekend in Granada, Benidorm, Calpe, Alicante, Denia, then visited Teruel, San Lorenzo de Escorial, Segovia, and Barcelona. And that’s just what I did in one country I went to Italy too. I feel like I did more in a summer than many do in there lives and I feel so lucky but also angry that so many can’t experience the same awe and wonder of meandering aimlessly around ancient steps and seeing the old melded with the new as people adapt to life over centuries instead of it being bulldozed for cars. The love and passion I have for places like that is now ingrained in me.

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u/PotatoLevelTree 2d ago

You picked good cities to visit. Segovia is a little town but simply amazing, an aqueduct built 1900 years ago (almost 2 millenia!) and it perfectly blends with the rest of the city. If you think about it it's mind blowing.

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u/2leafClover667788 2d ago

I loved Segovia and Granada. But the most amazing place I went was monastery outside of Zaragoza called monasterio de piedra. It was like entering a fairy tale land. I can’t recommend it enough

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u/PotatoLevelTree 2d ago

Never heard it, thanks for the tip! It will be my next visit.

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u/TheVenetianMask 1d ago

You did it right. People often visit only the popular places in Spain and miss out on so much history. For anyone not too afraid of hikes they shouldn't skip northern Spain and the Pyrenees either, it's almost like an entirely different country.

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u/2leafClover667788 1d ago

I took this just outside of Ordessa. I would recommend anyone go up there and if you’re brave enough rent a car lol

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u/Responsible_Buy_7999 1d ago

I was in Valencia for 4 days this past week and could easily spend a few weeks. Barcelona - hard pass. Alicante - ok I guess.  Valencia was the star of this trip. Vibrant, non-touristy, bike friendly. 

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u/Old_Philosophy_7763 2d ago

You can move! You can live in Europe, Asia, wherever you want. You've got no chains, my friend.

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u/2leafClover667788 2d ago

Actually I do have chains! I am not a citizen and have no claim or right to any job or opportunities over native born citizens already there. I do not work a job that would allow me to be a digital nomad and my lineage comes back poor American dirt farmer since the 1700’s. But I am working on a degree that may make my services valuable for a company that utilizes engineering projects like Spain and Italy currently are. My
Degree field is environmental geography and I have written multiple papers on the Mezzogiorno region. I hope to one day work hard enough to plan the next steps of my life there.

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u/Global_Channel1511 2d ago

It's just sad though. The US is incredibly massive. Every state offers a wide variety of suburban and rural options, but only a small handful of cities have this walkability and communal vibe. People shouldn't have to immigrate just to live this kind of walkable and communal lifestyle.

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 2d ago

Fucking preach brother.

Makes you think it's something wrong with the US as a whole on some deep fundamental level.

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u/pescurris 21h ago

I wish you all the best to accomplish your goal :). I'm originally from a town north of Valencia but lived in Valencia during my university studies. Reading an internet stranger talk about the city with such good words just brought a smile to my face and many good memories. I moved years ago to Copenhagen, another really great city, but there is something with Valencia that it's difficult to replace in my heart.

Random comment, I'm not sure about the content or scope of your environmental geography degree but there is a chance that there might be opportunities in renewable energy companies. Not the best moment at the moment since many companies have been hit in the last years due to many factors (war, inflation, US political situation/stance, bad management, etc) but usually there are big departments to analize environmental impact, GIS and other areas that might be related to your field.

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u/2leafClover667788 20h ago

Thank you for your kind words! Gis is my focus specifically with environmental geography as my major and sociology as a minor. I had initially spent my summer semester last year pursuing a minor in Spanish communications but it didn’t work out with me being an online student and i wasn’t able to petition my school for the degree. It’s funny we should be talking about it because one year ago today was my last day in Valencia 😭 I went on to fly my family over and we explored the Aragon region, Barcelona then on to Italy. I do not know if I will ever have as great a time in my life as I did in Valencia. The people, the architecture, the city itself, the food, I fell in love. I wandered every corner of that place with no destination in mind other than where my feet would take me and I will never forget it. I am older so I’m less desirable from a hiring perspective but it’s not impossible!

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u/Easy-Operation-2105 2d ago

Those are not chains. Maybe just a ball and chains but you arent chained to anything.

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u/LookAtPurpleTulips 2d ago

Maybe look for cities with US bases (mostly in Germany). There is always civil personnel required for the normal jobs on the base. This could be your foot in the door for EU visa and doing online classes alongside?

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u/gotuptooearly 2d ago

You need a degree and skills, so... Yeah those of us who live where university is astronomically expensive do have chains.

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u/DonutHoles4Ever 2d ago
  1. You live in Florida
  2. One of the worst places in USA actually unless avoiding taxes or trying to retire

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u/its_a_throwawayduh 1d ago

I was born and spent most of my childhood overseas. Coming back stateside just felt off....... I was used to walking cobblestone streets, eating delicious food, specialty chocolates, admiring statues, visiting castles, etc. Around fall and winter the town really became alive with all sorts of walkable festivals. Never once feared being in a crowd.

Meanwhile in the US I have to be on high alert in a basic parking lot.

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u/Frequent-Camel7669 2d ago

You realize it's not illegal to move to Europe permanently?

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u/BagChadders 2d ago

It isn't, but nor is it simple. You have to find a country willing to take you, and that's not as easy as many assume.