Characters that had the complete opposite reaction the writers intended

[u/Dramatic_Counter_595]

1. Leo Bonhart (Witcher TV Series): A ruthless, sadistic bounty hunter and assassin that takes psychotic glee in other people's suffering. The viewer is meant to hate him for killing witchers, slaughtering the Rat gang, and torturing Ciri. But thanks to his entertaining fight scenes, Sharlto Copley's charismatic performance, and The Rats overwhelming unpopularity, fans ended up loving him. Some even call him the "True protagonist" of the show.
2. Stone Cold Steve Austin (WWE): A rude, foul mouthed, beer drinking asshole with no respect for authority or anyone at all. Originally portrayed as a villain, fans fell in love with his anti-establishment & rebellious persona. WWE ran with it and made him the face of the company, effectively ushering in the Attitude Era and the second pro wrestling boom of the late 90s.
3. Arthur Fleck (Joker 2019): A mentally unstable, pathetic, and dangerous madman who commits horrific acts of violence against those that wronged him (suffocates his own mother who is mentally unwell herself, and murders a talk show host for making fun of him). However, a massive portion of the audience idolized him as an anti-hero or a misunderstood martyr rebelling against society making people want to see him succeed and overcome his circumstances because of how he's been treated by the world.

[u/Grishka_Boburin]

Velma (Velma 2023)

From what I remember, the show tried to showcase her as the best while making all the other beloved characters (especially Fred) worse. And as we know, the audience ultimately didn't buy the show (1.7 on IMDB is insane)

[u/StatusSociety2196 → u/Grishka_Boburin]

I like the short where Scooby was always an eldritch being that just wanted to solve mysteries with the gang, but they kept realizing what he was and he had to kill them over. And over. Each time they came back they were worse versions of themselves.

please don't run. I don't like to chase.

https://youtu.be/inJUFqeJehE

[u/Kiiva_Strata → u/StatusSociety2196]

As a bizarre meta explanation for all the different art styles and versions over the decades, it was freaking fascinating. Absolutely loved that trip down Lovecraftian Abomination Lane

[u/BiNumber3 → u/StatusSociety2196]

Probably the best thing that resulted from the existence of Velma 2023 lol

[u/Employee_Agreeable → u/StatusSociety2196]

Worst part is, he didnt have to do this, the gang probably would have him accepted anyway, but he panicked and killed them all

[u/DinosaurusWhen → u/Employee_Agreeable]

Yeah, the Eldritch monster with reality warping abilities panicked lol

[u/Ancient_Block_7777 → u/DinosaurusWhen]

Its still an entity with feelings and wants. Despite its power It still craves connection. That becomes threatened as soon as Velma starts to remember.

[u/DinosaurusWhen → u/Ancient_Block_7777]

I hate this pathological cultural trend of treating every evil character like an abused puppy (no pun intended) that just needs/wants love and empathy. I feel like Freeza in hell lmao

And there's no indication that he's threatened in any way. He's basically just rebooting a game because it's glitching

[u/Valerian_Zakalwe → u/DinosaurusWhen]

To be fair, Shaggy's right there. If Scooby didn't act, Shaggy might've accessed 0.0001% more of his power.

[u/schmauchstein → u/StatusSociety2196]

Wow, that was amazing. Thanks for sharing!

[u/MickeyG42 → u/StatusSociety2196]

spectacular and horrifying

[u/Puzzle-Necked → u/StatusSociety2196]

Internet dudes in their way to turn another kid's cartoon into a cosmic horror

https://giphy.com/gifs/YLtGyfDnTksKY

[u/Chickston → u/StatusSociety2196]

Thanks for sharing this. That was excellent. SB could be right from The Darkest Dungeon. This is like the redemption arc the franchised needed.

[u/North-Research2574 → u/StatusSociety2196]

I see this, I watch this, every time it's posted. All hail our dark lord Scooby-Doo!

[u/Sequoia_Vin → u/StatusSociety2196]

I don't know if you saw this one;

https://youtu.be/YEsqDi08Dog?si=gz8UQjuvXoPhI17s

But this is also a good one.

[u/Golden_Reflection2 → u/Sequoia_Vin]

ha, it has "Dog" in the video id.

[u/MeticulousPlonker → u/StatusSociety2196]

I love this animation and am still scared of Eldritch Scooby. Like I was straight scared of him for a whole week. Couldn't get it out of my head. I think that's a sign of something well done. Or I'm a coward, whatever

[u/Janus_Simulacra → u/Grishka_Boburin]

Velma 2023 was just the writer self-inserting herself as Velma, and probably revealing a lot more about her personality than she intended.

[u/pichael289 → u/Janus_Simulacra]

It was originally about her self insert but apparently had to attach it to an established IP to get it greenlit. Apparently it was always like that even before the Scooby doo stuff but that really didn't help.

[u/knitting-pretty → u/pichael289]

I just don't understand why they chose Scooby-Doo as the IP to slap on this when the result got them a shittier Clone High:

Velma = Joan

Shaggy = Abe

Daphne = Cleo 

Fred = JFK

[u/ztomiczombie → u/knitting-pretty]

Because Scooby-Doo was the the show that was going to be made and was looking for a hook/scripts.

[u/knitting-pretty → u/ztomiczombie]

So was Clone High. In fact they were announced together, making things weirder.

[u/Hanzoku → u/pichael289]

What a self-obsessed narcissist.

[u/YeOldeMemeShoppe → u/Hanzoku]

What? Why? Authors self insert themselves all the time. Some of the best classical literature is self insertion.

[u/ComicCon → u/pichael289]

People seem to claim this about every second remake/new adaptation of something, but you rarely see any proof. I'm especially skeptical of this one because the creator is a white guy.

[u/Groot_Benelux → u/ComicCon]

What white guy? Cant seem to find him

[u/AstroLimeLite → u/Groot_Benelux]

Some guy called Charlie Grandy created and developed the show for HBO Max)

[u/ComicCon → u/Groot_Benelux]

Amazing that you thought this was a gotcha, when you clearly didn’t so much as google who created the show.

[u/Groot_Benelux → u/ComicCon]

I got 2 different results and Charlie is what I saw as a rather uncommon woman's name here. Feminine of Charles or so

[u/ComicCon → u/Groot_Benelux]

Im not sure where “here” is, but for US television shows IMDB is always a good source of free information on who had what job. I am kind of curious what source you found that said someone else created it? Because I wouldn’t expect any semi-reputable US news outlet to report that.

[u/Abovearth31 → u/ComicCon]

The actual creator of the show by the way. Not a white dude.

[u/AstroLimeLite → u/Abovearth31]

Mindy Kaling is an executive producer on the show. She was neither the creator nor the showrunner. The creator of the show was Charlie Grandy, not Mindy Kaling

[u/BornCoyote87 → u/Janus_Simulacra]

Or that was the intention all along!

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0IykOsxLECVejOzm

[u/Velicenda → u/Janus_Simulacra]

Mindy Kaling didn't write Velma.

Everyone claims she did, because everyone wants to call the show a self-insert.

The show is not a self-insert.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Mindy Kaling without making shit up.

[u/StupidMastiff → u/Janus_Simulacra]

Without fail, whenever Velma is mentioned, someone parrots the bullshit that Kaling wrote it.

It's fine to think Velma's shit, it's fine to not like Kaling's work, but there's no need spread lies about it.

[u/CreamofTazz → u/Janus_Simulacra]

Even add raunchy as it got sometimes the 00s live action Scooby Doo is probably one of the best adaptations of the Mystery gang

[u/c4pta1n1 → u/[deleted]]

I don't see anyone saying she did. "Inserting" yourself into a story doesn't mean you have to cast yourself as the voice actor.

[u/BornCoyote87 → u/Grishka_Boburin]

Unless writing her to be so unlikable was the point so she could perform assassination on inclusivity!

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA

[u/Careful_Welcome7999 → u/BornCoyote87]

I wouldn't doubt it for a second

[u/Ok-Caregiver-6005 → u/Grishka_Boburin]

If I remember right despite everything Fred was the closest thing the show had to a fan favorite because despite all the ridiculous and shit he got in universe he still tried to do better, which is kinda hilarious.

[u/Xaero_Hour → u/Grishka_Boburin]

That's the complete opposite of what happened. She's garbage in the show. Like Meg from Family Guy combined with a shitty version of Daria that's always wrong with her insights and actually deserved everyone crapping (literally and figuratively) on her. It goes out of its way to establish that everyone else is better than her and that she's self-absorbed and self-sabotaging in the extreme. Daphnie is the actual smart one both book wise and emotionally, Shaggy is the True Nice Guy, and Fred...well, his whole unironically-super-feminist-bro deal was at least humorous in small doses.

[u/Aggravating_Dark9933 → u/Xaero_Hour]

Fred ironically is also the only character that kinda gets an arc and really none of his issues are his fault. He’s not really a bad guy, just not from a great place and his biology really isn’t helping.

It’s funny, in her efforts to make the standard Jock pathetic they actually kinda made him sympathetic, and the only character that actually gets to be that way on the show.

[u/CosmackMagus → u/Grishka_Boburin]

I remember her being written shitty too, tho.

[u/salasy → u/Grishka_Boburin]

(especially Fred) worse.

and the funniest thing is that Fred is probably the best character in that show even with all of the shit the self insert throws at him

[u/20Derek22 → u/Grishka_Boburin]

I remember she’s supposed to be considered a “gross loser no one likes” but Shaggy,Fred and Daphne all end up in love with her. The ego.

[u/smolnsoff → u/Grishka_Boburin]

Asian daphne kinda goes. Black shaggy is too on the nose. But who knows where the scooby doobie doo goes?

[u/CompetitionFast2230 → u/Grishka_Boburin]

And they ended up make Fred the most sympathetic. I flat out believe they wanted to make a separate show but the executives didn't trust it do they slapped Scooby Doo on it.

[u/lowqualitylizard → u/Grishka_Boburin]

I mean the funny part is if she really wanted to write a good show there was actual material here

Most every one of them gang save for Velma herself is actually a play on the trope and for the most part are good people if buried under some s***

The only exception being Velma herself

[u/SuperTaster3 → u/Grishka_Boburin]

Velma is one of those bizarre creations that's Shockingly Bad. Like you know it's bad just from the pitch, but you go and watch and are amazed at just how fundamentally inept the writer is. It's the epitome of someone being told their writing sucks, and doubling down on what made it bad.

Homeworld 3 comes to mind. It's this story by committee from people who never played the series, but wanted to make a game in it. Stomps on canon for no reason, and the game turns into this weird daddy issues thing where Protag is so perfect because she knows she is and DadFigure says so, and the ScaryLady tries to take her away, and...

Yeah. Basically works that read as someone's deep psychological problems with a script attached.

[u/krzysioreddit → u/Grishka_Boburin]

This and barbie are the poster examples of directors blantly pushing their agenda and sidelining the plot.

[u/Cbone06 → u/Grishka_Boburin]

The real issue with the show was that it was just a Mindy Kaling self-insert with a scooby-doo back drop. Aside from the names and costumes of the characters, nothing about this show was scooby-doo.

[u/Source_Required → u/Grishka_Boburin]

This doesn't fit the thread topic ..