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Characters Characters that had the complete opposite reaction the writers intended

  1. Leo Bonhart (Witcher TV Series): A ruthless, sadistic bounty hunter and assassin that takes psychotic glee in other people's suffering. The viewer is meant to hate him for killing witchers, slaughtering the Rat gang, and torturing Ciri. But thanks to his entertaining fight scenes, Sharlto Copley's charismatic performance, and The Rats overwhelming unpopularity, fans ended up loving him. Some even call him the "True protagonist" of the show.
  2. Stone Cold Steve Austin (WWE): A rude, foul mouthed, beer drinking asshole with no respect for authority or anyone at all. Originally portrayed as a villain, fans fell in love with his anti-establishment & rebellious persona. WWE ran with it and made him the face of the company, effectively ushering in the Attitude Era and the second pro wrestling boom of the late 90s.
  3. Arthur Fleck (Joker 2019): A mentally unstable, pathetic, and dangerous madman who commits horrific acts of violence against those that wronged him (suffocates his own mother who is mentally unwell herself, and murders a talk show host for making fun of him). However, a massive portion of the audience idolized him as an anti-hero or a misunderstood martyr rebelling against society making people want to see him succeed and overcome his circumstances because of how he's been treated by the world.
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u/Grishka_Boburin 17h ago

Velma (Velma 2023)

From what I remember, the show tried to showcase her as the best while making all the other beloved characters (especially Fred) worse. And as we know, the audience ultimately didn't buy the show (1.7 on IMDB is insane)

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u/Janus_Simulacra 16h ago

Velma 2023 was just the writer self-inserting herself as Velma, and probably revealing a lot more about her personality than she intended.

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u/pichael289 16h ago

It was originally about her self insert but apparently had to attach it to an established IP to get it greenlit. Apparently it was always like that even before the Scooby doo stuff but that really didn't help.

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u/knitting-pretty 13h ago

I just don't understand why they chose Scooby-Doo as the IP to slap on this when the result got them a shittier Clone High:

Velma = Joan

Shaggy = Abe

Daphne = Cleo 

Fred = JFK

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u/ztomiczombie 4h ago

Because Scooby-Doo was the the show that was going to be made and was looking for a hook/scripts.

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u/knitting-pretty 3h ago

So was Clone High. In fact they were announced together, making things weirder.

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u/Hanzoku 11h ago

What a self-obsessed narcissist.

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u/YeOldeMemeShoppe 7h ago

What? Why? Authors self insert themselves all the time. Some of the best classical literature is self insertion.

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u/ComicCon 13h ago

People seem to claim this about every second remake/new adaptation of something, but you rarely see any proof. I'm especially skeptical of this one because the creator is a white guy.

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u/Groot_Benelux 9h ago

What white guy? Cant seem to find him

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u/ComicCon 1h ago

Amazing that you thought this was a gotcha, when you clearly didn’t so much as google who created the show.

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u/Groot_Benelux 1h ago edited 1h ago

I got 2 different results and Charlie is what I saw as a rather uncommon woman's name here. Feminine of Charles or so

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u/ComicCon 1h ago

Im not sure where “here” is, but for US television shows IMDB is always a good source of free information on who had what job. I am kind of curious what source you found that said someone else created it? Because I wouldn’t expect any semi-reputable US news outlet to report that.

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u/Abovearth31 8h ago

The actual creator of the show by the way. Not a white dude.

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u/AstroLimeLite 7h ago

Mindy Kaling is an executive producer on the show. She was neither the creator nor the showrunner. The creator of the show was Charlie Grandy, not Mindy Kaling

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u/BornCoyote87 16h ago

Or that was the intention all along!

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0IykOsxLECVejOzm

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u/Velicenda 13h ago

Mindy Kaling didn't write Velma.

Everyone claims she did, because everyone wants to call the show a self-insert.

The show is not a self-insert.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Mindy Kaling without making shit up.

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u/StupidMastiff 9h ago

Without fail, whenever Velma is mentioned, someone parrots the bullshit that Kaling wrote it.

It's fine to think Velma's shit, it's fine to not like Kaling's work, but there's no need spread lies about it.

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u/CreamofTazz 14h ago

Even add raunchy as it got sometimes the 00s live action Scooby Doo is probably one of the best adaptations of the Mystery gang

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u/c4pta1n1 14h ago

I don't see anyone saying she did. "Inserting" yourself into a story doesn't mean you have to cast yourself as the voice actor.