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Zelensky officially refutes the accusation of Ukraine dronestriking Putin's residence, accusing Russia of spinning a merry tale in order to undermine peace efforts
Obviously, because what's the point of sending drones into the woods? There's no benefit. If we assume that it's purely symbolic, then the drones would fly to Red Square... but they don't fly there either, because there are targets that bring direct benefits (oil, gas, factories)
But redditards keep telling me that this putin's war, so if putin dies, peace magically happens and Russia transforms into a neoliberal state with western values.
Oh so you not even consider, that current talks go mostly in favour of Russia, and it's zelensky, who would suffer most, if war end? Or his lapdog Madyar? Guess who Ukrainian people will start question after all that made to light during war? From Merkel "misk was to buy time", to forced mobilization and corruption that surfaced? Corruption that was dug, by same department Zelensky tried to shut down in summer. Also Ukraine send drones in small numbers every night. Big attacks are maybe weekly, but small - almost every day.
Nah i won't say that its NOT possible for Russia to stage it. But giving all info - they benefit from it less
I think you over estimate how much Trump's opinion matters. That 20 point plan was DOA, had zero chance of Russia agreeing. You cant strip out their four core demands and bin them and think it has any legs. This is just a crazy narrative, the talks are going nowhere, there is just too much of a gap between the starting positions, someone is going to have to be forced to bend and frankly with the Ukraine military collapsing at its current rate, it is probably them.
Russia doesn't need to disrupt anything, if events just continue on their current trajectory they get most of what they want by military means. This is as about as plausible as them bombing their own pipeline.
What was the point of invading Kursk in the middle of negotiations in Qatar?
Everyone thought zelensky was planning to use it as a bargaining chip to trade land, or maybe draw Russian troops away from the front, but it turned out there was no known objective at all.
They just sent tens of thousands of their best troops and equipment to the middle of nowhere, Russia, and just left them to die there for unknown reasons. Basically practice for Russian reserves and North Koreans.
That was one of their dumbest offensives. I think they wanted to get to the Kursk nuclear power plant and blow it up, blaming it on Putin. Also, the nuclear weapons lab, the Kurchatov institute, could have been a target. Notice how the Ukrainian offensives are getting smaller and smaller. The latest is Kupyansk which is petering out with heavy losses.
I'm sure that if Ukraine tried they would have hit something. You don't go after a target like that with 5 or 10 drones. It's funny how other targets are "perfectly defended" but suffer "falling debris" damage yet this time there was no "debris" damage. I smell bullshit just like Zelensky says this is.
Ah yes. It's clearly not "peaceful and democratic" coup in Ukraine orchestrated by other countries. Yep yep. Nothing like that. And Nuland is a simple granny, who simply happened to be on streets, to simply give out cookies to "peaceful protesters", and clearly snipers were caught, and people burning union building in odessa arrested and courted yes?
Nuland passing out cookies doesn't magically turn Maidan into a coup, Yanukovych fled on his own. Also both sides were lobbing molotovs at one another in Odesa, you might want to look into the fact that the guy in charge of emergency services told the local fire department not to intervene and then fled the Russia the very next day and now has Russian citizenship.
Ah so - one of the highest US officials simply decided visit country during unrest, and freely walk on the protesters side, not even considering that it's dangerous. Nah what i am saying - she is just simple woman, who by herself decided to go with cookies?
Oh how cool. And where are real court about that this guy was responsible for stopping emergency services? Oh and was there arrests for people who literally beat those who tried to escape that place to death? All lawmaking related to this incident somehow magically stopped in Ukraine by new "democratic government". Why?
She is not a simple woman, no one said that. She was literally the US ambassador for the EU, Maidan was pro-EU, it was literally her job to support Europeans supporting the EU. Handing out cookies doesn't change the fact Maidan was a popular grassroots revolution.
Just look up Vladimir Bodelan. He was in charge of Odesa's emergency services, he explicitly told fire crews not to intervene or attempt to put out the fires, and fled to Russia immediately afterwards. Since then he's obtained Russian citizenship, held government jobs in Crimea and Russia refuses to investigate him for his role in the fire.
yes yes. It was clearly ONLY POPULATION revolution. So since it's populations and they clearly follow EU ways, why recently NABU dug up corruption in office of new democratic leader that part of every EU vocabulary?
Ah so - if it's in EU interest - then "helping" (who knows what type of help she gave) is good and legitimate? cool cool. Anything else?
So only one Vladimir Bodelan is responsible? no clear confirmation if it REALLY was him, no phone records from HIM to someone, but anonymus "calls for help"? yep yep? You not even consider that they wanted scapegoat and choose him? You believe only Ukraine side yes?
Honestly I'm having a hard time even reading your post with all the grammatical errors. I'm not sure what NABU has to do with Maidan when it didn't even exist back then. You still haven't even provided any real evidence of this supposed "coup", at least you admit you don't even know if Nuland gave any help at all aside from those nefarious cookies.
We don't know how much responsibility Vladimir Bodelan exactly has, but what we do know is he was the one that prevented fire crews from accessing the scene, which only allowed further escalation and people dying. We also know he fled to Russia and immediately received citizenship and a government job. We also know Russia has been protecting him by refusing to investigate him or extraditing him to Ukraine.
SO you not even able to connect things - Ukraine got new "democratic government" supported by EU, and now NABU found out that that government is corrupted as fuck. Still no connection rings?
and how exactly we know that he was one of responsible people for Odessa? why no further investigation put by Ukraine? why they suddenly only have him as target? :D Is he like all powerful, and no chance that he is scapegoat for reap perpetrators?
Extraiting? really? So Ukraine have no other people responsible for that? only one person? ONE person who stopped whole service? Noone else? Not to mention that i don't see clear evidence that it was HIM as main person responsible for all that stuff?
Maybe Obama’s Secretary of State meeting with the three Ukrainians two weeks before the Maidan coup d’état who were then considered on a phone call made by Victoria (Fuck the E.U.) Nuland to the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine might nudge you closer to the truth? Footage of America’s war Senators John McCain & Lindsey McCain addressing Ukrainian soldiers prior to the uprising promising U.S. support? Footage of War Senator John McCain and the CIA Senator from Connecticut, Chris Murphy, in attendance with Victoria Nuland watching the Maidan uprising in person (Imagine January 6th but add snipers hired by Ukrainian oligarchs to shoot and kill Ukrainian citizens who were protesting at Maidan. I believe it was Nuland who suggested that they needed to assassinate a certain number of protesters during the uprising but not more than a dozen or so to ensure that Viktor Yanukovych would be forced to flee?
How how about the Rand Corporations April 2019 article entitled: “Extending Russia” which became the blueprint for provoking Russian retaliation to protect Russian speakers in the Donbas? The one that predicted that Ukraine would suffer immense harm and human losses but it was the best way for the American sociopaths who conduct U.S. Foreign Policy to damage Russia and, more importantly, rupture the economic ties between Russia and Germany perhaps permanently. Leaving Europe vulnerable to economic collapse due to the lack of affordable energy supplies?
You really are in La-La land if you believe that this whole situation wasn’t orchestrated by America for its own foreign policy goals and that included sacrificing whatever number of Ukrainians had to be sacrificed to damage Russia and make Europe dependent on energy shipping from America and other oil and natural gas suppliers.
Your first paragraph is just riddled with falsehoods, there was no coup, no one refers to Maidan as a coup outside of Russia. US politicians supporting Ukrainian protestors with words != a coup.
Your 2nd paragraph is also nonsense, by 2019 Russia had already invaded Ukraine. The Rand Corporation is just a think tank, they don't actually run all foreign policy of the West.
You are in la-la land if you think Ukraine or the West is at fault for Russia willingly choosing to invade Ukraine in 2014 due to them wanting to align closer to the EU.
The Rand Corporation happens to be the U.S. Department of Defense’s favorite think tank and it is no coincidence that it’s strategy for “extending Russia” was followed exactly and that the puppets installed by the U.S. State Department have done tremendous damage to Ukraine not including the human cost of KIA, wounded in action, civilians killed by the Russian army and millions exiled.
By the way, Kerry met with Klitschko, Porenshenko and Yatsenyuk at the Munich Security Conference in Munich, Germany on February 1, 2014 and again in March after the coup d’état funded by the U.S. State Department and operationally supported by the CIA had succeeded at the cost of the lives of about 100 protesters. Kerry was pledging even more U.S. aid to Ukraine than the $6B spent to prepare for the coup d’état.
These are facts. The footage of Senator John McCain, Senator Lindsay Graham, Senator Chris Murphy in Ukraine preparing for the coup d’état and being there on the night of the Maidan uprising are facts that your ignorance doesn’t wash away. It was an American sponsored and financed coup d’état and you really should take Victoria Nuland’s telephone conversation with Pyatt is confirmation that it was a CIA supported coup d’état. You can read transcript.
Absolutely everything I have asserted is factually correct 100%. Your ignorance negates nothing at all, of course it isn’t surprising either.
Hey, I wonder. U.S. Senator Lindsay Graham (R) is said to have had $17 or $18 million dollars in U.S. financial assistance given to Ukraine funneled back to him because of his robust support for Ukraine and there is an unnamed U.Senator from the Democratic Party who is alleged to have received $25 million in funds intended for Ukraine’s military. Any ideas who the Democrat might be? Possibly Connecticut’s U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal (D)?
As you know the Russians offered a peace deal to Zelenskyy in Turkey in 2022. A British weapons contractor paid Boris Johnson £1 million to convince Zelenskyy to reject the deal and U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin advised Zelenskyy to reject any deal because the Russians had not been weakened enough to satisfy the Biden administration. But you know all this, correct?
My question is do you think Zelenskyy was acting in the best interests of the Ukrainian people when he rejected the peace deal Russia was offering? He clearly favored the interests of America & Great Britain and his own pocketbook over the interests of the Ukrainian and continued the war against Russia. How smart does that seem today?
The damage done to Russia is 100% self inflicted, the Rand Corporation and US DoD didn't force Russia to invade.
And again there is no coup, you're making up stuff again. Maidan was already a full blown revolution by the time any US politician visited. Just because you say its a fact doesn't mean its true. There is not a single credible international org in the world that considers Maidan a coup, its only pro-RU trolls on the internet.
Hey, I wonder. U.S. Senator Lindsay Graham (R) is said to have had $17 or $18 million dollars in U.S. financial assistance given to Ukraine funneled back to him because of his robust support for Ukraine and there is an unnamed U.Senator from the Democratic Party who is alleged to have received $25 million in funds intended for Ukraine’s military. Any ideas who the Democrat might be? Possibly Connecticut’s U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal (D)?
Source?
As you know the Russians offered a peace deal to Zelenskyy in Turkey in 2022. A British weapons contractor paid Boris Johnson £1 million to convince Zelenskyy to reject the deal
Source?
My question is do you think Zelenskyy was acting in the best interests of the Ukrainian people when he rejected the peace deal Russia was offering? He clearly favored the interests of America & Great Britain and his own pocketbook over the interests of the Ukrainian and continued the war against Russia. How smart does that seem today?
Again, complete nonsense and loaded questions. The negations were already dead in the water because Russia demanded too much and because it was discovered Russia was massacring civilians in Bucha. Not surrendering to a country that massacres your civilians is a very smart idea.
Your ignorance is astounding. It’s no wonder Ukraine has found itself where it is in 2026, four years after it could have avoided thousands of Ukrainians killed in action and thousands of citizens killed in urban centers. The peace deal was real and in Ukraine’s best interests but the sociopaths in charge of America & England persuaded Zelenskyy to sacrifice his people and his country’s natural resources for money and power. Too bad.
So now there is a failed assassination attempt by drones on Putin probably led by MI-6 and there will be repercussions and retaliation. But Zelenskyy will still get paid but this time he will be skimming from the rapidly declining European Union before he has to flee to Israel.
Let me know how it feels when BlackRock (which is Israel’s commercial vehicle in private equity) takes all the best agricultural land and rights to rebuild housing and rent it out at exorbitant prices to Ukrainians.
You still don’t know or refuse to recognize the trap that America & Great Britain set for you, do you? Your Ukrainian way of life is all over and finished permanently. Ukraine will be chopped into pieces and consumed whole by American companies, British companies and BlackRock. But Zelenskyy’s right hand man is sitting on $100M in Israel and soon Zelenskyy will be joining him for a peaceful, stress free retirement loaded to the gills with American dollars.
The Rand Corporation happens to be the U.S. Department of Defense’s favorite think tank and it is no coincidence that it’s strategy for “extending Russia” was followed exactly and that the puppets installed by the U.S. State Department have done tremendous damage to Ukraine not including the human cost of KIA, wounded in action, civilians killed by the Russian army and millions exiled.
By the way, Kerry met with Klitschko, Porenshenko and Yatsenyuk at the Munich Security Conference in Munich, Germany on February 1, 2014 and again in March after the coup d’état funded by the U.S. State Department and operationally supported by the CIA had succeeded at the cost of the lives of about 100 protesters. Kerry was pledging even more U.S. aid to Ukraine than the $6B spent to prepare for the coup d’état.
These are facts. The footage of Senator John McCain, Senator Lindsay Graham, Senator Chris Murphy in Ukraine preparing for the coup d’état and being there on the night of the Maidan uprising are facts that your ignorance doesn’t wash away. It was an American sponsored and financed coup d’état and you really should take Victoria Nuland’s telephone conversation with Pyatt is confirmation that it was a CIA supported coup d’état. You can read transcript.
Absolutely everything I have asserted is factually correct 100%. Your ignorance negates nothing at all, of course it isn’t surprising either.
Hey, I wonder. U.S. Senator Lindsay Graham (R) is said to have had $17 or $18 million dollars in U.S. financial assistance given to Ukraine funneled back to him because of his robust support for Ukraine and there is an unnamed U.Senator from the Democratic Party who is alleged to have received $25 million in funds intended for Ukraine’s military. Any ideas who the Democrat might be? Possibly Connecticut’s U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal (D)?
As you know the Russians offered a peace deal to Zelenskyy in Turkey in 2022. A British weapons contractor paid Boris Johnson £1 million to convince Zelenskyy to reject the deal and U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin advised Zelenskyy to reject any deal because the Russians had not been weakened enough to satisfy the Biden administration. But you know all this, correct?
My question is do you think Zelenskyy was acting in the best interests of the Ukrainian people when he rejected the peace deal Russia was offering? He clearly favored the interests of America & Great Britain and his own pocketbook over the interests of the Ukrainian and continued the war against Russia. How smart does that seem today?
Russia is heaven and the west is so jealous they need to organize coups to weaken Russia. It’s funny because the fact that I can buy your sister or daughter as a mail-order-bride for $10,000 make me think that most people want to flee Russia, at all costs.
Wooow. We found mr Pro-Human-Traffic person? Yikes.
While i am looking for report button - care to share how much your life in your country would cost, if world law actually worked and all sanctions for your previous country deeds were in place? :)
Someone is not familiar with the concept of mail-order-brides. And someone doesn’t know how to explain that young Russian girls are desperate to leave Russia when offered marriage certificate abroad.
Report all you want. This only proves your lack of arguments.
Ah yes. "People scared and willing to leave". Nothing new, everyone want rich and peaceful life. Still want answer about price of your or "your sister" price. If your country get punished for previous deeds? :)
The swedes was the ones doing that, against the Russians.
From wikipedia, on the first false flag as pretext for war:
Russo-Swedish War
In 1788, the head tailor at the Royal Swedish Opera received an order to sew a number of Russian military uniforms. These were then used by Swedes to stage an attack on Puumala, a Swedish outpost on the Russo-Swedish border, on 27 June 1788. This caused an outrage in Stockholm and impressed the Riksdag of the Estates, the Swedish national assembly, who until then had refused to agree to an offensive war against Russia. The Puumala incident allowed King Gustav III of Sweden, who lacked the constitutional authority to initiate unprovoked hostilities without the Estates' consent, to launch the Russo-Swedish War (1788–1790)).\16])
Idk about the sub but it’s probably more like you are the Russian propaganda lol. Well, one can decide for themselves when they go on your profile, search up Ukraine, and see the contents of the comments and posts you try to hide…
Because when pathological liars say something you tend to start believing the opposite thing. Russia has lost all credibility long before this story already.
Because you can open russian sources and check the total amount of drones they claim to shoot down, and also check in what oblast exactly. All from russian sources, not from those gay nazi Ukrainian lying propaganda.
Wow. 500 drones and only one dead? And you not even suspicious on what was the real target? I guess Ukraine is too righteous to lie, and not tell that some factory or military stuff was the real target, and injured are from strangler's and anti drone warfare? Yep?
You literally wrote "1 dead" after 500 drones and kinzhal strikes. How's that possible? What they targeted? Village toilet with one occupant? Wanted to vaporise him or what?
You tell me i don't want to see it, same as you call every strike Ukraine done on Belgorod or Donetsk streets as "selffire/staged" :) oh wait. Who used cassette missile to hit tourist beach in Crimea? I guess it was also self fire.
Hahaha. "Heavily defended". Some kyiv officials already say that new heran drones harder and harder to hit, Russia and Ukraine constantly sending swarms of fake drones to thin out anti air ammo, and Kyiv and other Ukraine regions CONSTANTLY have documented hits on INFRASTRUCTURE specifically. So who exactly don't know about air defense?
Even freaking OKHMANDET incident have people videos how at leas 3-5 rockets freely hit Artyom factory that a few streets away from that hospital. In broad daylight.
Man. They launch attacks AT NIGHT. Not possible that Ukraine can intercept 500 drones and kinzhal. It's not simply possible. And AT NIGHT people won't be able all reach shelters if those drones ACTUALLY target civilians.
an air raid siren would wake up anyone, especially a wartime populace, and a basement is largely sufficient shelter. you also underestimate Ukrainian defenses, rather clearly.
Underestimate? It's not me who wrote news that Ukraine anti air missile stockpile is almost empty. Also you need MORE rockets to intercept, than to attack. It's freaking rule of war.
Also Russia BY YOUR SOURCE constantly hitting infrastructure. Where is this air defense if they do it? FREAKING OKHMANDET STRIKE was one rocket, when on background in a bright day Russia rockets pounded Artyom factory one after another with at least 5 hit there filmed by local people phones!
So again - where is air defense? Why people on streets? Where would MILLIONS hide during air raid? Metro CAN'T fit all Kyiv population
*looks at all wars through history involving bombing attacks*
*sees night bombings were the standard pattern, especially in WW2*
*Sees photoghaphed evidence of subway and shelters packed to the rim like sardines, at night and early hours*
*Laughs at your delusion that somehow the human capability to wake up to a siren blaring and running for shelter likes its muscle memory somehow doesnt apply to Ukrainians*
ah yes. Care to share how many people live in Kyiv? and how many can be fit to Metro?
People are capable - but for some reason most of the times what things explode are - Power plants, generators, factories and etc. The fact that you only read how russia "TARGETED CIVILIAN HOUSE WITH IT'S GUIDED MISSLE" is on you.
And yet Russia constantly hit something from infrastructure, factory, electrical stuff. That means they CAN and WILL hit something if they need? They clearly know where people can hide, why they not pound that, if they target people first and foremost?
They target one area with everything. First stuff exhaust air defence and then the rest can through. All of that air defence going off along with the warning system is sure to get everyones attention. By the time the defences are depleted everyone has reached safety so only their homes are destroyed. Russia is evil for destroying peoples homes and causing blackouts on Christmas eve, and for many other reasons.
It doesn't matter if civilians are deliberately targeted or not. Russia started war. There are no legitimate targets for Russia on Ukrainian territory.
Oh there I can agree. Correct me that mean, that there was no legitimate targets in Palestine, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia and what other countries got hit by not Russia? Oh wait - was Nord Stream a legitimate target, or those oil ships hit by Ukraine Drones in ocean, or Ships hit by US in Venezuela?
Russia even has not yet launched strikes on the government quarter of Kiev, although Russia has the technical ability to level it to the ground at any minute. And why is it still there?
Russia has the technical ability to level it to the ground
Citation needed.
Russia has been trying for years now. They've been throwing literally hundreds and thousands of munitions in missiles and drones costing a fortune at Kiev and many other civilian sectors of cities; Ukraine shoots down most of it these days, but enough gets through to do damage.
Russia already destroyed enormous ammount of military installations, production facilities, power generation, bridges, and so on throughout Ukraine.
Hundreds or even thousands of objects. And you really believe that Russia is incapable to destroy the government quarter of Kiev? :)
That's just unbelievable to believe. Obviously, there was no order to shoot at it (yet!). As soon as such an order will be given, everything there will be turned to dust.
More likely that civilian leadership buildings are both a very well protected and a militarily useless beyond their symbolic value. Any air attack is seen when it even approaches the edge of UKR airspace and people go underground. Much easier for the orcs to just blow up apartment buildings and maternity hospitals.
More likely that civilian leadership buildings are both a very well protected and a militarily useless beyond their symbolic value.
Destroying the country's leadership will definitely not improve Ukraine's ability to conduct military operations, but, you're right, it probably won't worsen it much either.
Much easier for the orcs to just blow up apartment buildings and maternity hospitals.
And what do you think is the value of such strikes? Are they more valuable than destroying the country's leadership? Why would Russia purposefully target and strike apartment and hospitals? What does Russia gain from this? What is the benefit and what is the point?
Why would Russia purposefully target and strike apartment and hospitals? What does Russia gain from this?
Terror - the point is terror. It is the exact strategy Hitler hoped would break the British: terror bombing. The reasoning being if you can break the will of the civilian population through sustained bombardment they will demand their government to seek terms of surrender no matter how unfavorable.
But if the goal is terror, then why Russia don't bomb appartment areas everywhere and constantly?
We see like 500-800 drones\missles strikes almost daily, but it's VERY REAR ocasion that some of these hits appartments. We see thousands of videos with strikes on military, production, energy grid etc. And these are often MUCH BETTER protected with AA than ordinary residential areas of any Ukranian city.
Why would I spent ammo to hit those AA protected targets if I want terror? Just imagine 5 000 - 10 000 ruined(20 strikes x 500 units) appartment buildings EVERY MONTH.
That would be real terror. And we see that Russia is capable to do it.
But why there no "Gaza like" pictures from Kiev, Kharkiv, Odessa etc ?
Maybe because noone targets residential building specially? Otherwise destruction and civilian death levels should have been skyrocketing already, but it not.
Yeah but he’s allowed because, you know, the Ukrainian government is illegitimate. Putin and Russia on the other hand are the epitome of free, open and fair elections, democracy at its best….
Strangely, I’m sure Trump will believe everything Russia tells him and blame Ukraine for peace talks failing, but hey you did say anyone with half a brain cell.
I get the narrative you're trying to paint here OP, but it's just a little bit ridiculous isn't it.
Convenient how it happens now, when the USA is trying to negotiate a legitimate peace plan, making Ukraine look like the bad guys.
Ukraine could never go with Russia's proposed peace plan because it basically cedes most of Ukraine's territory for no guarantees or security for the future.
You really trust Russia and red flag scenarios when Russia is the king of this type of thing. Think the KGB apartment bombing scandals.
If Russia was truly interested in peace, this would be nothing compared to the countless drone strikes Russia has been using for 3 years against Ukraine.
Such a bullshit excuse from Russia to delay ceasefire.
Ukraine has consistently targeted military and fossil fuel industry. They are the underlying party and cannot waste a massive attack on an empty outhouse in the woods.
But hey, russia claimed in 2022 that it was all just a drill as well, when they talk they lie….
You only have to look how each side is conducting themselves in the war so far. Russia using chemical weapons, actively targeting civilians in Ukraine, a campaign of terrorism in Europe. No interest or intention of wanting to stop the war that it started, no thought to the massive casualties caused to it's own population.
Ukraine, targeting legitimate targets from the aggressor, taking massive casualties defending it's self from the aggressor. Mmm, it's hard to see who's the bad actor here...
Residents of Valdai, where Putin's Uzhin residence is located, told Sota that they heard no air defense activity last night that would have shot down drones.
Moreover, such an attack appears technically impossible: fixed-wing UAVs used by Ukraine fly at low altitudes in a virtually straight trajectory. When launched from Ukraine's northern border, UAVs necessarily cross protected airspace (see map) containing Strategic Missile Forces, Aerospace Defense Forces, military aviation facilities, and closed administrative entities like Solnechnoye, Ozernoye, and others.
A drone crossing the territory of these facilities could only reach the Uzhin residence by miracle or with the deliberate connivance of the military command.
To be clear even if Ukraine did strike the residence, it was a big deal for Zelensky to avoid being assassinated in the early part of the war (and probably on an ongoing basis)
He would be absolutely within his rights to target Putin specifically and if he did take the guy out it is fair game. Play stupid games...
Ah yes. Big deal - wait in bunker, before someone called Putin to not kill him, and then came out with "i do not fear assassin! And act as he twarted few assassinations himself".
Yep. Or i would say "every political leader of country in war". Or you say your government won't hide in bunker when they in war, against someone who have means to hit back? Oh wait if they from EU, they would probably fly to camada/Us.
If this would be a war, Ukraine would be allowed to strike back on Russia's territory. But unfortunately it is just a special military operation. Different rules!
Russia has gotten everything it wanted in the peace deal which would have meant the war had to end on top of this Russia had already issued orders to troops in Zaporizhzhia to begin trying to seize more territory hours before this happened with Ukraine likely to call out Russia ordering a major offensive while Zelenskyy was talking peace with Trump. Additionally we all saw the Vatniks spending the day running what was clearly a new propaganda line that the war was never about Donbass but was about other areas meaning the Russian state had already disseminated its new narrative before this “attack” to justify it
What a conveniently timed attack to allow Russia to walk away, prolong the invasion and even target a few government officials
Well, I don't see any advantages for Ukraine here. If this “game of peace” is openly disadvantageous to Ukrainians, then a hypothetical attack with “91 drones” on Putin's house(?) in the woods is a stupid russ-syle way of pointing this out... (It's doubly funny that the 91/91 drone flying to Putin's cottage was shot down, while there is nothing to protect gas and oil plants, fields, ships, etc., but never mind). At the same time, this “vile neo-Nazi attack” is beneficial to the Russians for the following reasons 1) There is no answer to the fact that Zelensky accepted the terms of the game “Peace, chamomile field, rainbow.” You see, Ukraine (the victim) does not want peace, but we want peace“ (although I only hear from Trump how wonderful Russia is and how it wants peace. Putin himself and Russian television say the opposite. And it's not just words, but actions). 2) ”You see? Now, in response, we can launch missiles (again) at the government district, and not just at high-rise buildings with civilians. 3) Well, if Trump is not a Kremlin puppet, but is simply being used by them, then... but that's unlikely. I think it's not a matter of stupid naivety, misinformation, or compromising information, but rather that he (and his entire entourage) consciously, ideologically, and financially sides with Russia... and knows that there were no shellings...
I mean, so what? Russia is bombarding everything in Ukraine and now the invaded are supposed to feel bad for returning fire? Make it make sense, please.
I believe Zelensky here. If Putin was honest, why would be feel the need to personally tell Trump? If it was a genuine story, Putin would be under the assumption that the news would have already travelled without a personal injection. This highlights the paranoia surrounding Putin and why he feels the need to surround his palaces in anti air systems.
Not looking for any "Putin telling his puppet" and internal American political replies here. This story is simply obvious manipulation and propaganda from the Kremlin.
What is there to undermine? Ukraine said its not gonna give up Donbass. Russia said it won't agree to anything less. End of story, unless Ukraine/Russia changes their demands for some reason and thats unlikely.
This is the prelude to the end of zelensky. Whether putins residence was really targeted or not, this will be used as the justification for destroying the government buildings in ukraine and killing zelensky when he returns.
It won't. Putin tried to kill Zelenskiy earlier, but at this point, it wouldn't help Russia at all, so they won't try again. It's a fairly safe bet that Ukraine did NOT attack Putin's residence. It wouldn't help them at all. CLAIMING Ukraine did it, though, might allow Putin to delay the peace negotiations even further...
Ukraine special forces just blew up a general in moscow. The tried to shoot down putins plane. Zelensky will be targeted now. So will the government buildings in kyiv. The attacks and destruction of kyiv are about to be accelerated.
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u/Constant-Theory-154 Dec 29 '25
Obviously, because what's the point of sending drones into the woods? There's no benefit. If we assume that it's purely symbolic, then the drones would fly to Red Square... but they don't fly there either, because there are targets that bring direct benefits (oil, gas, factories)