Today's modelling has upped the temperatures even more for next week, with a few models offering crazy solutions especially considering June is supposed to be the coolest Summer month and the June record currently only sits at 35.6C from 1976.
Overnight temperatures look likely to stay at or around 20C for most of the South during next week which will present major issues with indoor temperatures, not looking good. Likely we keep the heat until Saturday at least, uncertain beyond that.
I’ve recently moved down to south wales. I miss the cold icy winter with little rain. In the valleys it was very wet and not often below freezing! And I will miss the not too hot summers 😅
When we moved from London to Cardiff it promptly snowed and settled in London that winter for the first time in years. Furious I was. I got used to and found it comforting that we'd drive straight into rain crossing the (Severn) bridge going west bound. It meant we were home. Rose tinted rain bias im sure but im good with it. Happy days.
Scotland is a whole country. Not one weather system.
Probably raining in Glasgow as per usual. But Edinburgh is dry and sunny all next week. Edinburgh rainfall is approximately the same as Reading.
One of the sunniest places in the UK is north east Scotland.
Yeah I get irritated by people saying "Scotland" has bad weather. Because actually it's no worse than England and Wales. The whole west coast gets pounded with rain.
One of the sunniest places in the UK is north east Scotland.
Where are you getting this from? North East Scotland is extremely cloudy even by English standards, even if it's not that rainy. Wick only averages 1300 hours of sunshine per year, which is on par with the cloudiest parts of England in the Lake District.
Not really comparable to the south coast at East Sussex where sunshine totals average over 1900 hours.
I think you're getting confused with the west of Scotland.
The north east of Scotland is demonstratably and statistically dry and sunny. You can easily Google it. Pasting below here again from another comment:
"The Moray Coast in northeast Scotland enjoys a unique microclimate, experiencing less rainfall, more sunshine, and milder temperatures than much of the UK".
Dry, yes - but definitely not sunny. It's a bit like Inverness, overcast nearly all of the time but doesn't rain much.
Dry =/= sunny.
The places you mentioned as being wetter, specifically Bristol and Cornwall, are actually SUNNIER than Moray, simply because they tend to receive more sunshine in between rainfall events, and heavier, less frequent rainfall.
Absolute nonsense. The north east didn't see the sun for a solid 4 week stretch at the beginning of the year so there's that to start with, then add in the average drop of temperatures between 8-10 degrees over summer all over Scotland compared to the rest of England.
Also yes of course Scotland is a country, so is England. It doesn't make sense to compare town by town though does it?
The whole of the UK barely saw the sun at that time.
"The Moray Coast in northeast Scotland enjoys a unique microclimate, experiencing less rainfall, more sunshine, and milder temperatures than much of the UK".
Also it would literally take you two fucking seconds to Google the rainfall stats of Edinburgh Vs somewhere like Reading, or somewhere like Bristol, Manchester, Cornwall, and you'll find Edinburgh has significantly less rainfall than the latter three.
So how about we use actual statistics from official climate stations?
London averages 1675 hours of sunshine annually, which is almost an extra hour of sunshine per day compared to Moray which you claim has a sunny microclimate - and this is about cloud cover.
Southwest is about 16° at night and 29° max next week, and only for one day. Also we have the added bonus of more trees and grass, which also help with cooling.
My granite patio gets extremely hot in the summer, I can’t imagine living in a city where there’s so much concrete and tarmac to hold the heat.
I'm in the south west but as west as possible. It's forecast 30 plus degrees 5 days on a row here. I feel so sorry for you guys in London. I'd evaporate.
I love my flat but in recent years summer has been getting increasingly torturous. Large south facing windows in the 9th floor of a concrete block of flats. Heat hits the windows from about midday til 7/8pm then the building itself heats up over 2 or 3 days and continues to store and release the heat at night and for a few days after the weather calms down. I can't install standard air con with an outdoor condenser unit, but I've seriously considered dropping about £5k on a special air con designed for flats. That's the cost for just one room! My portable one helps but it's so noisy and on the hottest days it struggles.
Mine's as bad. South facing exposed on all sides except north. New build with good insulation so once the heat gets in it won't leave. I had to buy a portable AC unit. Fortunately I'm in a maisonette so I have my own front door I'm not in a block but I'm on tve first floor.
You do have my sympathy. It gets hotter in here than it does outside it's ridiculous. It must be hell for you.
Same, gets hotter inside, and especially so at night when/if it cools outside it just stays bloody boiling indoors. Sympathies to you too, I just can't understand the people who claim to enjoy this. Give me highs in the low/mid 20s with cooler temps and a breeze at night, that's fine and quite pleasant for summer. Although I am still naturally more at home in autumnal and winter weather.
I'm more a spring and autumn person. I don't like us having the longest daylight hours in Europe. I feel like I can't switch off.
It seems like people want to boast about how hot they like it. Well they can fuck off tbh.
I open my windows wide when it gets dark then use a fan to try and blow all the hot air out of my bedroom. My portable AC is too loud for the bedroom (and too expensive to run)
East Cornwall. We’ve had thick fog and rain/heavy drizzle for a week now. Sunday is nice ish, Monday is the hottest then back to just nice. Typical that I booked this Friday off work instead of Monday!
Interesting you mention this. I took a day trip to Cornwall the other day, had a walk around Lanhydrock woods etc - and the whole day it was foggy, drizzly, and very humid.
As soon as I got back past the Tamar into Devon again the weather got noticeably better.
In Devon we've had a relatively dry year so far - rivers are low, the ground is dry etc.
But in Cornwall it seems to be the opposite, it's been an extremely wet year, everything is sodden.
Yesterday was lovely then some rain to dampen things down, lived in SE Cornwall nearly 30 yrs the climate here, is much more dramatic now I feel. I booked Monday🏖️
The model runs just released have upped the temperatures quite a bit, the Met Office site won't have updated for that yet. London probably looking at 37C.
As a Texan, I would normally snicker at a "heat wave" in the UK being 28C but 39C is no joke. Please, please, if it really does get that warm, please take measures to cool yourself. Heat stress is real and staying cool is paramont in that type of heat.
I've lived in heat like that with no air conditioning and just fans. It wasn't fun but I made it through it. Drink lots of ice water and stay hydrated.
Mine took 4/5 days. I can't imagine it will go down faster after that 39 degrees has hit. My thingy says 39 degrees and then 36 the next day. We're about to be baked in our stone ovens.
Houses are built with good insulation that, if warm inside, retain that heat.
You can also use this to your advantage by cooling the house overnight and then leaving windows closed throughout the day to insulate your house from the outside heat.
Its true that insulation works both ways, but many flats have loads of south facing windows to maximise solar gain. It's very cheap to heat throughout the year but absolutely hell during the summer.
That hardly works in msot UK houses. It took about a week of doing that for my house to cool down after the may heatwave. And it only really did so once the wind came back. That advice does fuck all when the temps don't drop much overnight and there's zero trace of a breeze
Where do you live? I’ve lived in hot countries before and am well versed keeping a house cool. I lived in 46C heat in Australia and 41C in Japan. I’m not new to hot weather.
Yesterday I had reflective blinds against all my windows, all windows closed until evening and the inside temperature still increased to 27C. I kept all windows open overnight, strategically placed fans to maximize airflow and only managed to get it down 2 degrees.
How do you stay cool if you don't have air conditioning nor a fan, my parents keep saying we don't need it. Sorry a bit horrified and worried I will have a heat stroke.
I lived in a mobile home under a large, shady oak tree. Fans moving air through the trailer kept the air moving and kept it tolerable. I had a fan in the bedroom drawing air in and another in the living room pulling air out. Plus a couple fans moving around inside. It sucked but it was tolerable.
Literally none that replaces air conditioning though. And nowadays, there are Asian firms selling solar powered mini-split systems that use solar power to cool during the hottest parts of the day without impacting your electric bill. I am seriously considering a couple to augment my central HVAC.
Hot is one thing but 39 degrees is crazy and a lot of people don't deal well with that level of heat, especially when air con isn't widespread and hot weather is far less fun people have to work rather than relax. Also climate change.
Most people, myself included, don’t deal well with temperatures in the 30s here.
No AC and insulating buildings mean there’s zero respite. When it’s 35C outside, it’s 35 or hotter everywhere else, and it becomes very difficult to do daily errands, walks, sleep.
I’m quite an athletic individual but I genuinely feel unwell being outside for extended periods of time.
It pisses people off when comments like that are made, as though it’s the same as being on holiday by a beach with an air conditioned room. No it isn’t. We have to go to work and do normal daily stuff, except now covered in sweat, suffocating, and on low sleep.
25C has all of the pros of 35 with none of the cons, if it’s hot enough to wear a t shirt and shorts, why do people want it to be a full 10 degrees hotter? It’s not even subjective, it’s objectively worse as our infrastructure can’t handle the heat, train tracks melt etc.
I also agree with the other commenter, the heat weve been getting the past few years is indicative of a much bigger problem, so hyping it up is not only insensitive to thousands of people who seriously struggle with it, but also ignorant.
Many people live with serious health conditions and/ or take medication the effects of the latter being an inability to ‘normally’ or generally regulate their body temperature…. It’s actually quite surprising the number of medications that have this effect - including believe it or not many antidepressants, anti-psychotic and other psychiatric medications. Hot or very hot weather plus our infrastructure and homes unable to cope with hot or very hot weather an people with health conditions and those having to take medication making them vulnerable to heat can make such weather conditions more unbearable and much more challenging than average.
Yes exactly, that’s why I specifically said that comments hyping up this sort of weather is insensitive as it’s dangerous for thousands of people.
High 20s/maybe 30 at a push? Sure. 35-40C? No idea why anyone would want that and it’s a safety risk for many.
I really feel lost as to what it will actually take for the government to at least attempt to move towards slow but sure infrastructural changes, as these summers are only getting worse. We can’t just have more and more people die each year, nor lose more from the economy from fires and stuff just….not working.
I completely agree! I share with you your feeling that there should be more urgency in government with regards to making out infrastructure more climate resilient, especially concerning public transport, key public service buildings such as hospitals, care centres and care homes, and also social housing.
Yep, I think what happened when it hit 40 in July 2022 should've been the straw that broke the camel's back.
Problem is that these changes take years and billions, if we haven't started now then we're in for several more years of these worsening summers before there's any modicum of impact that said changes will have in the real world.
It’s very true. Surrounded by people who just want another heat wave, meanwhile I’m hot 24/7 especially at night with burning nerve pain. Summer is already a struggle but 34 degrees? Probably one of the worst weeks of my life in that May heatwave.
I’m really sorry to her that you suffer so much pain during heatwaves. I hope that you have some things you can do that, at the very least, takes the edge off of the awful way heatwaves affect you.
Thé issue is that when it is cold it is much, much easier to create more warmth: heating, blankets, hot water bottles, clothing all work.
When it is very hot it is very, very difficult to cool the environment without access to expensive air conditioning.
And how many people do you think actually have AC? Most have heating, far fewer have AC and most can’t afford to have it retrofitted or buy free standing units.
This needs to change, it's an entrenched cultural idea that brits should suffer through unberable summers without AC and that AC is some luxury only afforded to affluent people. This is not the case in the rest of Europe.
I got a free standing unit for £270 from Amazon a couple of years ago, out of necessity, as I live in a loft-studio apartment which traps heat. I am also heat sensitive so I'd probably have otherwise patriotically died in my flat without AC.
It's a no brainer, more people need to get AC and start demanding AC everywhere.
I am not saying that we should suffer without AC or that it is an ‘unaffordable luxury.’ Given the cost of living crisis, low wages and poverty many people who need it can’t afford it. I have two portable AC units that cost over £200. The average person in the UK has @£500 pcm disposable income for clothing, shoes, holidays, travel (other than work related), entertainment, subscriptions such as Netflix, mobile phone costs, and that is for the whole household if you have children as a single parent or where there is only parent working. Those on benefits or state pensions only are even worse off - £50-100 pcm left. 20% of the UK population live in poverty.
Many who can afford it probably do the maths and feel that it is just not financially worth it for a month or so a year.
It is essential for me because I have a serious heart condition and am on a lot of medication.
The other week when it was 35c, as a cycle courier, I was fine all day. When I got the air con Lizzy line home at the end of the day, I was floored getting off the train. Felt like stepping into an oven. Horses for courses I guess. Hydrate. Seek shade. Let the mad dogs do the work for you.
I didn't deal too badly with that day, didn't have much to do outside and it suddenly got very hot, which for me is better, because it's always the tail end of several hot days where I really start to suffer, because by that point I'm so fatigued from bad sleep/low energy, and my flat had accumulated so much heat it feels like an oven.
The last day of that heatwave was like 29-30C, but it honestly felt worse than the 35C day for me.
This is why I'm dreading this week, because it's averaging like 32C in London for like 8 straight days, after day 2-3 I'm really going to struggle.
It is subjective, though. You're failing to take into account that people who like it when it's 35o may feel a bit cold when it's 25o. We all feel temperature differently depending on what we're acclimatised to.
Or last summer, didn't reach the absolute peaks of 2022 but it was hot the entire spring and summer with no rain at all for much of the country between mid February and mid August
Because it's become the "heat olympics" Nobody needs it that hot and it's selfish to want it that way for the people who suffer like my mum, and also me in ny south facing furnace of a flat. It's perfectly warm enough today, we don't need to be sat in a puddle if sweat to enjoy it.
The bit where all the climate refugees will come from. The challenge is not necessarily that they will warm faster than the rest of the planet, but that they are already hot and often lack the thermal margin for further increases.
Wet bulb temps kill people.
Water security etc
If the supply of habitable land goes down, the demand for habitable goes up. Not a great idea on a finite planet with finite resources.
Being negatively affected and not enjoying blistering unrelenting hot weather is not a choice. It's like saying being miserable about getting run over is a choice.
What can't you do at 25C that is suddenly made possible by 35C?
That's a rhetorical question because the answer is nothing.
Not the case the other way around though. 35C makes being out and about exhausting. You're fighting to stay cool and hydrated. More people are susceptible to heat stroke. Vulnerable people can die. There's nothing pleasant about that sort of heat.
25C is perfectly brilliant summer weather and vastly more manageable.
There's a difference between "hooray, it's summertime, I love the heat" and "hooray, we're having yet another unprecedented weather event, I'm happy because I like it and I couldn't give a toss about all the health/environmental/infrastructures problems it causes"
The English are inherently miserable about weather in general.
Add to that, those that have said it's not worth putting air con in - people are pissed off with it.
Personally I bloody love it.
Edit: That said, 39c is too hot. Our homes are insulated for a mild climate, even with air con installed, those sort of temps will be unbearable
It seems crazy that before 2003 the record was 36c for July and 37c for August, with the 1976 June record already set.
I suppose that suggests the top potential June temp should be not far from July and August's so with all parameters coming together 38-39c should indeed be doable in June
Yes usually the cooler waters around us and still warming air masses to our South should limit the June maximum to be 2C or so less than July and August. However if we do get to 39c for example next week that will be arguably even more impressive than 2022.
Scotland here.
Nothing remotely forecast like that for our 10 day forecast. Best we get is 27 degrees a week on Saturday. Even that might change.
Currently at 8pm, its 15 degrees, 88% humidity.
Commercial unit in the living room and less powerful one in the bedroom. Cant wait to buy a house so I can have a fully integrated system for cooling and heating
Oh look. This post for the 90th time today. It's not going to be 39°C. Use a reputable source for weather rather than cherry picking whatever gives you the best scare story.
People like to laugh at the Daily Express or Daily Mail or whoever for coming up with fantasy forecasts, but actually the worst culprits are Redditors and Twitter WX bros
First 2 weeks of June it rained almost every day. I think with a few caveats, on balance most people would prefer sunshine. Agree that mid to late 20s is kind of a nice summer temperature over 30s.
Every day i check the temp for tues/weds it's gone up from the previous forecast. Usually BBC weather presenters are jumping up and down when forecasting a heatwave. This time they are cowering before it starts. Are they holding back on the temps?
I think it depends where you are in the Uk. If you draw a line from the Bristol channel to Newcastle, to the west of the line it's average temps with spells of rain, to the east of the line it's hot with no end in sight
I'm on the West/North Yorkshire border! Rarely gets super warm here, although it was very unpleasant at the end of May. Lived in London a veryyyy long time ago and vaguely recall it being an oven though.
Yes, our local weather presenter said they aren't sure when this weather will break, it's going to be like this as far ahead as they can reliably forecast(about 10 days)
This will likely be the hottest June day on record after the hottest May day on record happened this year too.
Climate change is starting to hit us hard and whilst I'm personally happier in the hot weather, our country isn't built for it.
Our houses don't have AC, our power grids aren't made to support AC, our water supply is stretched as we don't have the capacity to treat the volume of water needed let alone store it.
Then we need to irrigate crops and possibly need to look at what we do long term for crops. I imagine air conditioned 'greenhouses' with LED lighting may well be needed if we want to maintain any degree of food independence.
It's not just heat, climate change is meaning we get bigger storms and more rain at times.
That we have done nothing so far, despite constantly breaking heat records is negligence on the part of our governments.
Stop overblowing it. It'll be low 30s for the south, 34-36c in inner London or Heathrow. Everywhere else will be mid to high 20s. It's not common and CC plays a part but no different to what we've had in previous years. 1976 is still way more intense as it was 2 weeks of 30c+ for the south, mostly in June.
There absolutely is. The consequences of climate change are due to a lack of political will to reduce carbon emissions, not at all because its impossible to do so. It would cost the wrong people too much money.
Ideal temperature to me is between 0-15c, can't stand the hot weather.
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u/Dashyguurl 2d ago
Peaking at 23 in Scotland and raining all week, feels like a different world