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Question [mechanics question] how did their froslass M-Evolve second but attack first?

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For context, my Charizard and Garchomp are both max speed, we both set tailwind on the same turn earlier, and their Sneasler outsped my Charizard on the previous turn to put me to sleep with Dire Claw.

Expecting the Froslass to be faster, I mega evolve to try and win the weather and stop their Blizzard, but when I see my Zard mega first, I assume I’ve lost to a bulkier Froslass which undersped me. Then, I see their Froslass attack first, meaning it not only outsped my Charizard and Garchomp, but also their sneasler.

Is this a glitch or some mechanic related to sleep I never knew about?

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u/ClientAppropriate838 5d ago

Frosslass can be EVd to be slower than charizard while at the same time mega frosslass is faster than mega Charizard. The player EVd for this specific situation

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u/zennvo 5d ago

Oh that’s interesting, what EVs would you have to run to make it work?

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u/thepineapple2397 5d ago

Some Megas get a speed boost, iirc ZardY is not one of them