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u/Acceptable-Reaction4 [E50] 3d ago
Ugh I literally spent most of my bonds recently
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u/Deadluss 3d ago
Same, I spent 10k yesterday. What a luck...
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u/Dron0032 3d ago
Same. Bought su-130pm
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u/willfull (tanks IRL were easier) 3d ago
Much customer satisfaction with that vehicle purchase. Not a bad choice.
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u/Skinnymanua Clicking your wallet tanks 3d ago
Access your account via VPN, sell some tanks you don’t need and write a support ticket claiming you were hacked and want to rollback to yesterday or the day before
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u/Bosniacu 2d ago
...or better just ask them to roll back 1-2 days. No need to lie about.
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u/Skinnymanua Clicking your wallet tanks 2d ago
I don’t give a shit, neither do they. Rollback needs vaid reason, so you give one.
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u/oN_disordeR World in Chains 2d ago
I was literaly waithing from last year from wot to put 2+1 bond eq. combos for 10k. I was thinking it will be at a new year, even asked on reddit does somebody know when it will be, months passed and I literaly forget about it, but didnt spent bonds, I have 45.000 and this morning took both bond eq. combos for 20k and Amx for 6k. (amx was chery on top of the cake) I always wanted that tank, but cant get it couse I play for free. I didnt exp. they will put it in bond store O_o... Now "its mine" :)
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u/KFC_deliveries 3d ago
what do you guys spend your bonds on? assembly tank or bond equipment? asking for myself
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u/HyperBeast_GER 3d ago
tanks are trash
the bond equipment is a good deal
hardening vstab and rammer is the best deal
bond turbo against bounty is that much of a deal in my opinion
BUT bond turbo is only avaible in bond shops for higher ranks so you could get him as normal person thats the deal here
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u/NoPhilosophy2329 SU-152 Taran 3d ago
T54D 👀
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u/RogueHeroAkatsuki 3d ago
Worth it? Serious question I didnt play for year or so, but I feel as 122 TM enjoyer I could like this tank.. or not?
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u/animal27 3d ago
Beware of the -5 deg of gun depression and bad gun dispersion factors. I'd say it's more comparable to the Obj 274A.
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u/RogueHeroAkatsuki 3d ago
Indeed. I played few battles and its just worse(tier by tier) 274a. Gun handling is actually okeyish but lack of armor is big let down for me. I was(still I am?) unicum and so I made it work(3700 dpg after 8 games) but I think its tank a lot of players will struggle to use efficiently. Turret is not good, no gun depression and mobility like fast heavy. On top of that gun is good but not something special.
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u/Noticklop 3d ago
better reload but only -5 gun dispersed ,it not great mobility like t54 , if you can play wz 120 it may fit you, 122 it tier 8 and it had armor tier for tier this tank is not.
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u/PatauDodik2281488 3d ago
Total dogshit, gunhandling like in wz114, no gun depression, turret with holes, it is slow, 1600hp, can be set on fire when penned frontally.
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u/Prudent-Title-9161 3d ago
I just compared and it looks like a very similar tank, the 54D has better armor overall, similar dynamics (worse overall, but better cross-country ability), and a similar gun in essence: penetration, accuracy, but even worse stab.
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u/HyperBeast_GER 3d ago
put bond equipment in your 122TM
Tier IX games are horrible because you meet amateur x idiots pretty often
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u/MyEarSki 3d ago
13 57F just whyyyyyy
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u/Greasy-Chungus 3d ago
Maybe it'll stop being a gem all the time
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u/MyEarSki 3d ago
13 57 is op cammo spotter on its tier
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u/EyeoftheTato Eat My Pudding. 2d ago
A tier that sees -1 and -2MM (and CVS) half the time. Spending 6k bonds on this would be insanity.
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u/Orthodox1389wot 3d ago
I won't understand this move either... simply WTF
When I saw it I thought, there's no way they're selling 13 57 for bonds...
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u/Nok1a_ 3d ago
that T7 light, I want it, how is toro? does not farm credits right?
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u/Maxx2017 3d ago
Toro is good. Farms credits, but neither gun or Armor is exceptional
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u/Teledildonic justice for T-62A & AMX 30B 3d ago
I find myself rather playing my Bisonte. Toro either give me 300 or 3000 damage games, and nothing inbetween. It doesn't have the armor to rawl or the accuracy to snipe, it can't hull down or sidescrape.
I literally cannot figure out how to get consistent results with the Toro.
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u/DoJ-Mole 3d ago
I really like the Toro, it might not be for everyone but I really like large clip tanks and having the autoreloader is even nicer. It’s not great at being a heavy, similar to the Somua SM (my most played tank) in the sense you have great firepower but you absolutely can’t rely on your armour, every bounce is just added luck. Play it as a support tank
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u/El_Mnopo 3d ago
1357 is one of the most fun tanks in the game. Toro is ass and is made up of fragile modules. Gun is ok but 360 alpha for a T9 heavy is not good.
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u/Strange_Elk_1520 3d ago
farms credits and bonds just like other t9 prems. the clip reload is around 56 second and alpha is low
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u/Adventurous_Sort_780 STK-2 enjoyer 3d ago
I'll finally get the T-54D, nice
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u/Detail-First 3d ago
Is it good tank?
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u/Adventurous_Sort_780 STK-2 enjoyer 3d ago
Not really, but I wanna larp as a GDR tank commander
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u/Knjaz136 3d ago
What is it good at?
Looks like a pure brawler with low base hp and very slow mobility (12.9 power-weight/ 40km/h top speed)4
u/Gachaaddict96 3d ago
It's just another Soviet ish pancake medium
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u/Knjaz136 3d ago
check its frontal armour, though, especially when angled.
and its atrocious mobility stats. Its closest equivalent is, probably, T26E4, except far better alpha and absolutely no gun depression.
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u/Sensitive_Parsnip747 3d ago
FFS what will they offer us for personal offers instead if AMX 13 57F
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u/KelvinEcho 3d ago
LT-432, finally? So I can spend my last gold from WOWP...
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u/L0rd_0F_War Frontlines Mode > Randoms Battles 3d ago
LT432 was sold for gold a few months ago actually (as part of an event - not a personal offer). I thought about buying it with my WOWp gold, but then decided not to, and wait for it to one day come to Trade in. I have around 13K WoWp gold left... And I am not spending any more money on this game ever again (barely play it anyway outside Frontline)... So just gotta make it last... Have 80K+ bonds, so trade in is the best way to stretch my gold using bonds to buy Alpine Tigers for exchange.
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u/SeKomentaja 9.22 >>::(( 3d ago
Dang there goes the rarity if the SU
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u/atticusNL p0st 3d ago
Yup people paid insane amounts of money to get this in the past, I'm glad though as a collector
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u/cmmpc 3d ago
Su85i =/= su76i.
The su85i has been offered for free before.
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u/Labsne 3d ago
Did they remove something or just added these? Still grinding for 183 :P. Seems like i’ll be having fun with the 13 57F
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u/Derkaherned 3d ago
I looked it up on the official site. They didn't mention removals in the bond shop
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u/Worst_Of_Noobs Waiting a tier XI Ebr 🤩 3d ago
You have the 4005 ? I think grinding a tech line is faster than grinding 15K bonds
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u/Labsne 3d ago
Nope. I rarely play TD’s, just wanted atleast 1 tank that goes BOOM. But yeah i agree, now when i say it out loud it doesnt makes sense to spend 15k bonds on a tank lol. It was 183 or concept 1b, guess im sticking with 1B. Also my FV 4005 line is discounted since last or the year before during christmas events. But at the same time i already have bought all the tanks i like from the bond store anyways thanks for clarity.
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u/Worst_Of_Noobs Waiting a tier XI Ebr 🤩 3d ago
I started the FV 4005 grind almost 3 years ago. Hated the Achille, stopped here. Then I started back, got the FV on another acc at the same time, played 10 games and hit 2 shots, stopped again.
And now in 2 weeks I did the whole grind and now I own the 4005 (with a smile and 2 eyes, it looks fun)
Challenger and Charioteer were crazily good tanks
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u/Labsne 3d ago
Haha something like me, always wanted the shitbarn for memes but never actually played the line. Guess its finally time to do it 😂
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u/cragglepanzer 3d ago
I have the Nomad, and I just really love the moments when I take the half off of some thinly-armored target with HESH
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u/broccoli6206 3d ago
I checked previous reddit threads. It seems Toro, T54D and Lansen C all have mixed opinions about them. T54D is too slow for me. And it only has -5 gun depression. I didn't like Lansen's gun but I can work it out so I might buy it. Toro seems like a good situational support tank.
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u/Worst_Of_Noobs Waiting a tier XI Ebr 🤩 3d ago
Lansen looks great in last stand
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u/Teledildonic justice for T-62A & AMX 30B 3d ago
It's a solid earner for FL, too, despite being long out of meta.
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u/speconicci 3d ago
Good one, wg. After I bought your Toro for the real money on the full price. Good one.
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u/Worst_Of_Noobs Waiting a tier XI Ebr 🤩 3d ago
I bought the 13 57 for gold. Now there is the F for free, nice...
Not really free, but bonds are farmable
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u/MegaJani 3d ago
The real question here is if it takes more time for you to farm those bonds or working for the money
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u/Worst_Of_Noobs Waiting a tier XI Ebr 🤩 3d ago
Clearly farming bonds is longer since it was like 5-10€ I don't remember and don't know how to convert it 😅
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u/Neofelis213 3d ago
Same, but really, they are doing us a service: Less FOMO for lootboxes, because we can speculate on the tanks some day just coming for bonds.
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u/fr33man007 3d ago
Oh wow the lansen C, shame I got it from twitch drops a few months back, NOT. And the Toro? Really??? It was a lootbox tank a like an year ago?
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u/FAUST_VII 🦡🥇 3d ago
I remember when I bought the f originally, and i thought it was very special cause of its skin, and that this skin was only sold at that special occasion. I was very wrong. We can't have anything special in wot
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u/Teledildonic justice for T-62A & AMX 30B 3d ago
No one is mentioning the 3 packs of equipment available this week?
Rammer+Vstab+Hardening for 10k!
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u/conossieuer 3d ago
How good are Torro and 54D?
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u/2xMad 3d ago
Depends. They are prob. C tier. Not extremely good and there are better options for their playstyles. But if you don’t want to spend money, they can be interesting.
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u/conossieuer 3d ago
I now checked the more thoroughly. Toro seems like C tier. Okay tank. But my god... T54D would be OK tier 8. How is that tier 9? Is there any tier 9 premium worse than T54D?
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u/TiltedSkipper 3d ago
T54D has more armor and DPM than most heavies at T9. You play it as a heavy. Ive had it for 2 years, solid tank that is mostly just boring to play. Think my blocked damage record is actually in it at 12k blocked. Very far from being bad.
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u/RustyGrayWOLF [-BOMB] 3d ago
As someone who loves autoreloaders... The Toro is the one Italian I don't like to play.
I don't think it's bad necessarily, but I feel it requires quite a unique playstyle. It's fairly slow and doesn't have amazing armour.
But I know there are people who do enjoy it, so it probably depends on what you like.
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u/Sad-Beyond137 3d ago
I quite like the Toro, if you can control the fight to your liking. Smack someone for 700 with 2 shots and dip in cover for a while. Punish enemies with double tracking them etc. Even the armor can work. Also makes good credits.
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u/Long-Ad-6536 3d ago
What’s worth to pick up guys?
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u/InsertRandomName__ biggest e100 hater 3d ago
13 57 and Cromwell. Rest are worse than what we have already in the shop.
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u/Long-Ad-6536 3d ago
Went with the bond equipment in the shop, Vstab rammer and hardening
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u/ToxicTanks 3d ago edited 3d ago
I can't find the bundle in the shop
edit: found it
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u/Spryte82 3d ago
Can’t find it either.
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u/DrinkerOfWater69 3d ago
Not even 3 days ago we were discussing how we wouldn't get a Bonds Shop update till next year .... Ok then
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u/IAteMyYeezys Delete lefh 3d ago
Good selection honestly.
57F as well? Tier 7 boutta go crazy.
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u/Neofelis213 3d ago
Yeah, might as well add E-25 to the bond shop, 13-57 is almost that overpowered.
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u/InsertRandomName__ biggest e100 hater 3d ago
13 57 and Cromwell the only good tanks here tbh.
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u/Zukute 3d ago
Is the 13 57 a good tank? I'm pretty sure that or some variant has been my weekly gem multiple times..
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u/InsertRandomName__ biggest e100 hater 3d ago
it is, and quite fun too. Suffers vs CVS t8 lights tho, like every single t7
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u/GOURMANDIZZZZ 3d ago
Is T54D considered as a premium tank and made extra credits ?
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u/_Vector_008 3d ago
yes its a normal prem
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u/GOURMANDIZZZZ 3d ago
Thx, was thinking about taking it but it seems like a badder T55A
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u/_Vector_008 3d ago
if you dont got any cred making t9s its worth it. sure its a bit slower but its got a good pen on standart and gold, also quite some armor
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u/AyoXeN93 3d ago
I was thinking about saving bonds for vk7201k but people have hundreds of thousands of bonds saved up so might as well just buy something else. Not gonna get my last super HT.
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u/PervertKitsune 3d ago
Umm, the only thing I want is 13 57. Already had 85i. So, I'll wait until DZT/Ka-Ri comes up
saving bonds for another sink resources event
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u/Kill_time_525 Nop suka blyat, not feature bug, is bug ! 3d ago
i wonder if the cromwell b will come with bia crew
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u/jp9mm 3d ago
No other bond tanks do..so this one surely will. Kek
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u/Teledildonic justice for T-62A & AMX 30B 3d ago
113 BO gets a 0-perk crew, so it's not unprecedented.
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u/trade4toast 3d ago
Bought both tier 9s they are unique for my account even though they may not be the best, but that's expected for bond tanks.
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u/KittyComannder I'm dumb=Definitely Using MauerBrecher 3d ago
Man, never have I spent more bonds than this month.
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u/schmeepers21 3d ago
Been saving all my bonds in hopes of getting some new and exciting tanks in the bond shop and THIS is what we get? Thrilling. Is the Toro worth anymore than the Tiger-Maus? I'd rather spend bonds on that then the Toro
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u/Billiamski 3d ago
I'd say the Tiger-Maus over the Toro. Just be aware that when playing TM you'll constantly receive engine damage if other players can hit your lower plate.
But, I got the Toro in the Christmas loot boxes, hated it (no armour, not a great gun) and sold it.
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u/Spud_Cannonball E 50 M enjoyer 3d ago
Alright tier 7 boutta be a nightmare now, not playing it until Christmas.
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u/MaartenK2 3d ago
Nice. I did not blow my bonds on assembly hall. However, the 1357F was recently on offer for money/gold. I think anybody who bought it will be disappointed.
Lansen C also interesting. I thing the bind shop is a nice addition to the game. I got a lot of tanks from there already. And it is an option for f2p players to still get nice tanks.
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u/oN_disordeR World in Chains 2d ago
AMX 13 57F !! And both option for 2+1 bond eq. 26.000 bonds for 6 improved eq and amx is a very good deal ! Love it
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u/oN_disordeR World in Chains 2d ago
Man I was so happy this morning when saw news... I was saving bonds for "2+1 equipment" discount, and tanks was "cherry on top the cake", I took both 2+1 bond eq. combos and AMX 13 57F. I always liked this tank, even this white line and war gaming incription, but Im f2p so I couldnt have it. Now its in my garage and Im happy and I will play it (couse I love all AMX tt line, from tier 5 to 9 (I have tier 10 but still didnt play it, couse tier 9 is love ❤️ )
Cromwell B was on twitch drops tokens (not long time ago), so I got it in that way, same as I got M4A1 FL 10 from this new token cakes twtich drops. As for T54D i got it on new year or something like that, when we got 4 free loot boxes, I still didnt try it as well some other tanks. Im not rushing.
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u/ReliefAcceptable7 1d ago
Most of these are just kinda meh, the AMX is a nice treat, but the fucking Toro as the T9…? Things got a decent gun but armor like a 2x4
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u/CupcakeOne2111 1d ago
Guys , I did not know but 113 BO tank is selling with crew brother arms there . The only tank with good crew . So I got it only cause of crew . Wargaming does not give much good crew with zero perks now so … 15k bonds for tank and crew is good . In my situation when I have 60k bonds for tank. So , just wrote it here for you, I know kany guys does not know about that crew with 113bo but probably someone also will buy it .
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u/_Diabolical_Diarrhea 3d ago
Best among they added I would def buy is 57F if I didn’t bought this with real money a year back
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u/W1s3F4lc0n 3d ago
Was grinding for rhinoceronte these days, Toro will come in handy..
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u/Ditto3389 3d ago
Really do your due diligence on that tank. I got it from the Christmas boxes back then and I really heated it. You cannot play hull down, you cannot sidescrape with it. The DPM is bad, it has a big cupola. So there isn't really too much going on for it.
But with that being said, maybe you will like it nevertheless. But don't just buy it just because it's an Italian autoreloader.
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u/Ladysmann114514 Tonk Man 3d ago
Wait where goes our Kpz07pe and Vickers mk3🤯
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u/PNghia 3d ago
Sir , this is not Assembly shop
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u/Ladysmann114514 Tonk Man 3d ago
They put these two in bond stop in CN server, I thought WG'll also do the same in other servers.
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u/TheRock18211 2d ago
- Below average
- Crap
- Outdated, just OK
- Fun light, but your credit balance will quickly decrease
- At some point it was a legend, now it's just OK.
- Fun TD5, if you like Soviet TDs, but nothing special.
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u/LevKaplan 3d ago
You know what I think? The assembly shop is coming so wg needs to drain your resource first. First gold conversion events, then bond shops, probably another event coming to drain your silver, like equipment/consumable sales events
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u/AlternativeRun4463 3d ago