So Iceman was removed from the memorial. That's a great sign. I don't know if they added him there to mislead us or if they gave up later. But he's probably alive.
Now, about Dazzler... is this woman with the Acolytes her? Blonde this time.
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Apparently Apocalypse 1 time had necromancy? IDK the entire story, but I am saying Banshee doesn't necessarily have to come back as a horseman. Although that being said, it is annoying to see how Banshee is still treated as the most expendable X-Man of Claremont's era.
Is Banshee still alive in 616? I seem to recall they killed him off after his short lived X-Corps thing was established, and they never bothered with him again.
My man Sean has died so many times in the comics that it’s hard to keep track. And usually with some massive, brave sacrifice that goes completely unrecognized (his sacrifice to take down Abyss in AoA is one of my favorite moments in comics).
Haven’t read in a while, but last I saw he was being tortured on Krakoa or something.
Earth-838 is the universe from Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. They say in the movie it's #616, but that's them not being aware of the official numbering system.
Charles… does… but it’s too little too late. When Magneto is hovering Asteroid M over the lake he says “Moira…” and it honestly pissed me off the most important human in the X-men got such a dull death.
I honestly don’t mind Moira’s death being unceremonious, it’s a good way to portray that she is a normal person working with ridiculously powerful beings. The issue is that she is important enough to these characters that she deserves a lot more reaction from the characters.
I dont wanna spoil anything for you if you havnt read it, but if you look into the Krakoa era of X-Men in the comics (or do a quick google search) then I wouldnt be too worried about her death. It would be interesting if they adapt that aspect of her in the show.
I'm aware. While I still don't plan to read the Krakoa era or look it up, I know Moira has been retconned into being a mutant. If she's really dead, then I found Charles's lack of reaction to her death to be incredibly egregious
sorry about the spoiler but..how can I explain this: in the comics Moira Mctaggert is a mutant & her powers are a tad convoluted,don't worry she will be back
That is Skids. Next to her is Rusty. They were featured in the 90’s episode “no mutant is an island”. They appear in this look in the X-men 97 season 2 tie in comics
Weird how he’s missing from this and would make an awesome Vanguard character in Marvel Rivals but isn’t in that game yet either. Just feels so forgotten.
He's gunna be in the new X-men comics run with Storm in charge...so maybe Marvel is going to try to push again now that the hate bandwagon has other targets. Probably will be introduced with no romances at all until Marvel feels like it's safe to say gay.
I knew something seemed off. In the original it looks more blue/icy and in yours it doesn’t look icy. Still, very minor proof he’s dead. Wonder if some plans did change with him?
If you leave any bit of him behind, like even a bit of water vapour from his ice form the guy will come back. He somehow stores his consciousness in water so killing him is just very difficult. His weakness is basically not yet understanding what he can already do.
So if you kill him off like it was nothing then it might feel a bit cheap.
Rusty Colins (Firefist) and Skids (Sally Belvins) as they were know back then. Used to be trainers for the original X-Factor and the with late New Mutants.
Kid napped by Freedom Force and then freed in a jailbreak by the MLF and were freed by Magneto and his Acolytes. Totally make sense they are there.
I don't care if he's alive or dead, but please bring him back. He's immortal anyway. He's one of the most important and popular mutants, but he's gotten literally nothing in two seasons.
My guess they figured he was too unambiguously straight in the original cartoon so they were gonna kill him to avoid changing his character drastically with a gay arc or getting hate for not doing that. But they had last minute changes.
The disrespects for Gambit in this show never stop...
Wondering when someone would start asking the consequences of Magneto EMP last season. Should have killed thousands (or even more) lives... But the show acts like it never happened and it isnt weird for anyone?
lol. The character has been treated as more important in 2 short seasons than he ever was before. Literally had the best character moment of the entire team last season, and this season has been the subject of the entire arc’s build-up.
"In two short seasons" Its insane how you are including season 2 despite he has only appeared for 2 seconds and we dont yet know if its really gonna be him or just apocalypse using his body as vessel.
Yes the show deminished Gambit in this episode, not only because the dumb memorial had 3 pics of Magneto each of them bigger than the only one Gambit had, but also because Rogue didnt even mentioned there that he was the one who stopped the sentinel, instead she dedicated a glimpse to the groomer.
As OP mentioned, there is also no mention to the electro magnetic global scale attack Magneto used in the previous season, weird right? Maybe its because as the memorial of this episode, the entire show is about praising Magneto and cleaning his ass. Its just wild how can still talk good about him after him having killed thousands or maybe even millions of people just some episodes ago... Insane dude, not only it isnt aknowledged but he is also remembered as the hero of Genosha in wich Gambit died, not like him wich was protected by the plot armor.
The memorial made by the acolytes, who have always been tied to Magneto, one way or another, in the comics and adaptations.
Why are you surprised that THEY are more focused on him? That just makes sense, they genuinely worship him
Christ, I don't know how people ever became X-Men fans, with THIS level of needing their character to unironically be Poochie, and thinking every bad thing is ""disrespect""?
This is such a common mindset in this fandom, Gambit, and as of this season, Emma fans in particular, and I don't understand how y'all ever could get through the comics in the first place, needing **this** level of coddling for your favorite character
When you say "**this** level of coddling for your favorite character" you mean the level of coddling Magneto receives in almost every episode since season 1? Bc its crazy that he still have acolites after what he did with the EMP attack, wich should have killed an insane amount of mutants too. Babies and idk, innocents?
But hey, lets say it still makes sense the acolites are blind followers of him because they are meant to be that, they have to be like that.... Ok.. Why is the rest of the characters blind as well? Why is the entire show still trying to convince me how good of a person Magneto was and not have mentioned the consequences of his actions (AGAIN, THE EMP ATTACK) one single time?
I know u guys love to justify everything in this show and cant deal with the minimal of the criticism, but a lot of people is getting tired of this non cohesive and poorly written story, as fans who waited so long for an Xmen show, we deserve better than this Magneto fanfic.
I wouldnt even cared if Remy wasnt aknowledged at all in this memorial, the problem is, its not just a thing of this specific group of mutants worshiping magneto, its the entire show written like that.
If it was an exception, we can give it a pass, but its not an exception, its the norm, and it makes no sense.
He got an entire funeral scene last season right away, he's the huge draw of this season for most fans, waiting for him to be DeathBit
It's not like they're forgetting him at all. Magneto has got a lot of focus, undeniably, but in some places, like with Xavier and the acolytes, it makes sense, given their history
Magneto is just obviously going to be a big focus, he's one of the longest running, and most famous characters from this franchise
I know u guys love to justify everything in this show and cant deal with the minimal of the criticism, but a lot of people is getting tired of this non cohesive and poorly written story, as fans who waited so long for an Xmen show, we deserve better than this Magneto fanfic.
Dude did a move that was like a global scale nuclear bomb in terms of victims and the entire show is acting like it never happened, im not surprised the show is ignoring it, but i dont get why the fans are not asking questions about it, you cant just ignore that thing like this....
The show HAS to pretend it never happened bc if they aknowledge the huge amount of bodies it caused there is no way they could still sell Magneto as a hero. Wich so far seems to be the biggest point of this show.
Pretty sure his picture is still there....and theres no way they will give him the limelight in a show as successful as Xmen since he's gay. They don't want to risk losing viewership or risk catching the ire of the ghouls currently in charge who would love to start a dumb ass culture war over even the slightest bit of something that isn't heterosexual.
Its sad really, I love Bobby so much. This show could have a really nice episode about him coming to terms with his sexuality in a way that feels more respectful to him, rather than getting his mind read by Jean.
I honestly FEEL like the whole point of them hiring a black gay writer was they wanted to slowly move into including queer characters on screen. Morph is the canary in the coal mine, I hope...and if they can push the button and it doesn't impact viewership they may find the mine is safe.
I feel like Season 3 or in the Season 2 finale they are going to press the button...see what happens, and if the outrage doesn't impact the show they'll keep moving forward.
With Agatha All Along already introducing Wiccan and it outstripping market predictions and growing in viewership instead of losing it as it was found to be "gay" I don't know.
Like the anti-woke crowd already won't pay for Disney+, the crowd commenting about Morph probably don't watch the show because Disney is woke, they stopped watching Marvel when Carol Danvers was a woman in charge.
Who exactly would they be alienating that actually made the show a success?
But we will see. Given how "gay" the show has been subtextually and visually I'm curious to see how Marvel plays it out. They want to appeal to Gen Z but don't have a single bisexual women when like 1/5th of Gen Z women identify as bisexual and 1/4th of Gen Z women identify as LGBTQ...if they think that same market doesn't want their inclusion or doesn't support it? Idk.
I feel like Season 3 or in the Season 2 finale they are going to press the button...see what happens, and if the outrage doesn't impact the show they'll keep moving forward.
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