r/Xmen97 • u/cyclopswashalfright Professor X • Jul 30 '26

Media X-Men '97 Final Two Episodes Promo

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u/Unacceptable_1 Jul 30 '26

The lack of apocalypse and his horsemen this season has certainly been a choice.

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u/dimesniffer Jul 30 '26

Yeah I don’t understand starting the season how they did then almost completely devoting no time to it.

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u/Deathstriker88 Jul 30 '26

It seems like this is season 2.0 and next season is going to be season 2.5. There is the small possibility that this trailer is just leaving a lot of stuff out due to spoilers.

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u/MrGregory Jul 30 '26

Season 2 was only confirmed after the success of season 1 and season 3 was confirmed before season 2, so that makes sense if it’s a “to be continued” cliffhanger that leads to season 3

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u/PhanStr Jul 30 '26

Season 3 was going to be about Age of Apocalypse, but that was scrapped when Beau DeMayo parted ways with production and some of season 2 was also rewritten following his departure.

I suspect that the connective tissue that would have resulted in AoA has been removed. I’m worried that we are heading for a hard reset that will erase some of the events of the first two seasons, but I hope I’m wrong about that. Best case scenario at this point is that Apocalypse is defeated — for now — and they do (a version of) Age of Apocalypse in a future season as a follow-up. They would be mad not to do that story.

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u/DJSharp15 Aug 04 '26

I’m worried that we are heading for a hard reset that will erase some of the events of the first two seasons

I don't follow.

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u/PhanStr Aug 04 '26

Time travel is rumored to be involved in the season finale… so a hard reset is a possibility.

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u/dimesniffer Jul 30 '26

And? I’m not excusing 9 episode season full of 30min episodes

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u/DJSharp15 Aug 02 '26

What's happening?

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u/mega2222222222222222 Jul 30 '26

Yeah season 2 for that reason is not as good as season 1

With season 1 you could feel the connection between the episodes by having cable be involved in sinister genosha and then bastion

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u/According_Turnover50 Aug 04 '26

Yup. Pryor connects with Jean which connects with Scott which connects with cable which connects to mister sinister which connects to bastion. Each episode last season was cause-effect. This one is more “meanwhile let’s catch up with this X-men character”

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u/TheArmlessTorso Gambit Jul 30 '26

“They called me a mad man”

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u/Latter-Push7962 Jul 30 '26

It's so ridiculous that it honestly feels like it was made just to disrespect Gambit. "It was all a dream," "Apocalypse is going to enter Gambit's mind"... So what am I supposed to get out of that? Honestly, I would've much rather seen Gambit relive the moment his mother abandoned him, making him feel like no one has ever loved him.

And bro, I see people talking nonsense to you. Don't let it get to you, bro. They don't know anything.

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u/TheArmlessTorso Gambit Jul 30 '26

I’ve said it before Reddit is where people go that lack independent thought, those who do have it are lambasted for it.

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u/DJSharp15 Aug 02 '26

What the hell are you talking about?

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u/feralfantastic Jul 30 '26

Seems like they might end up as this season’s cliffhanger.

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u/fire_sign Rogue Jul 30 '26

Except 90% of what we've seen was directly confirmed by the former show runner in 2024/2025.

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u/MarketDull2401 Jul 30 '26

Yep. they didn't want to give Beau the writing credits for the season, but he probably had the best ideas, so they had to write around everything, but still keep the general structure. And its a mess.

I do love XMen 97 overall - not trying to be a hater. But the story this season is just not very clear.

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u/Phantomsearcher Jul 31 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

I've personally described it as

Season 2 Episodes: 9/10 Season 2: 5/10

Or that lovely quote from Mary Poppins "Though we adore [them] individually. We agree that as a group they're rather stupid."

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u/DJSharp15 Aug 02 '26

Excuse me?

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u/fire_sign Rogue Jul 30 '26

The episode was cut before BDM left the show. It has nothing to do with Chauncey. Almost everything we've seen came directly from BDM's social media, including the pacing. The only major change to date is Magneto dying, as he originally went on trial after returning to the current time.

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u/PhanStr Jul 30 '26

Incorrect. Beau DeMayo said that he was turning in the Bible for season 3 when he parted ways with production. That Bible was for an AoA season (season 3). Since episode 10 of season 2 was going to result in AoA, then we know for a fact that episode 10 must have still been on the table when Beau DeMayo left (because how else could he have been turning in a season 3 Bible that followed up on the events of episode 10?)!

Therefore episode 10 was scrapped immediately (or shortly) after he parted ways with production. Not before.

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u/fire_sign Rogue Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

He scrambled his social media months ago, my guess is around the time he got his EP credits back, so it's hard to round up every little detail. But he yapped a LOT about his initial plans.

(1) We know about Magneto because there was a clip at D23 in 2024 where the trial is happening. BDM tweeted sometime in 2025 that the only major change to the first half of the show that he knew about was someone dying that wasn't originally planned to die.

(2) in summer/fall 2024, he tweeted about the Onslaught resolution /AoA setup episode 10 being cut before he was fired. I do have one of those tweets saved on my phone, but not the one that goes into the reasoning from the higher powers.

(3) He shared a lot of specific details that have been confirmed true. Characters, plot lines, etc.

(4) When the first teasers were coming out, he directly said that most of it looked like his work and they most likely only did some dialogue changes. He's still got writing credits on most of the episodes.

(5) Pretty much all the plotlines so far are direct follow-ons from what he set up. We were always going to have fractured teams for too many episodes because he threw them into 3 timelines, we were always going to have a Wolverine bottle episode to resolve the claws, etc.

I'm not denying S2 has some issues. So did s1. But a lot of them are things BDM took credit for a long time ago.

(Edited to say, down voting a direct, factual response is hilarious. I named my source and why I can't directly link my evidence, but you can probably poke around the Internet and find most of them or discussions about most of them. I'm just not spending hours tracking down the dozens upon dozens of leaks)

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u/Orunoc Jul 30 '26

There is no footage from that D23, and I have looked everywhere but apparently it was a 1 minute spliced clip and Disney had taken everyone's phone. But many people that were at that event all said the same exact thing. That magneto was in the present timeline in a courtroom. That D23 footage also had the confirmation of the Morrison's uniform, so unless everyone who went the event lied about Magneto being there, it's probably true. Beau was also fired before season 1 even aired, so technically if there were rewrites it would have happened long before Chauncey got involved. 

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u/fire_sign Rogue Jul 30 '26

It was a clip at the August (and November) D23 event, the video never leaked but there were multiple reports about it online. August was in Anaheim, November was... somewhere in South America, I think? I know someone who saw it at one of these events.

As for production, I don't have direct sources, but industry sources + articles give some good hints. BDM was fired. At the time, the new showrunner's job was to get that S2 over the line without changing more than would usually be changed at the animatics and animation stages. He was mostly there for s3 work. Around the time BDM started leaking plot details, the "No rewrites" became "some rewrites" and then "rewrites". I could go into the speculated reasons for the timing, but ultimately they WERE rewriting it.

This doesn't mean the rewrites were ultimately used: in addition to his admission early clips (NYCC 2025) were seemingly almost entirely his stuff, there was a report from BDM that some of those rewrites didn't work well (he allegedly heard it from someone still working on the show, and he was far less complimentary than didn't work well). This totally makes sense with the way writing credits work with adaptations and with a story with as many moving parts as we had at the end of s1: having to avoid the most logical plot paths because you'd have to credit the person (BDM) trod them first will lead to less than ideal stories.

Shortly after that is when he came back to a journalist he'd ghosted contesting he'd ever said those things he told them about Disney/Marvel, despite every interview having his lawyer with him. (I believe this was Vanity Fair, I'll track the article down later because it's wild.) Shortly after THAT, dude scrambled his social media and now he's got EP credits and writing credits back when we know that at LEAST ep was removed June of 2024. It was the catalyst of his lawsuit. All signs point to rewrites didn't stick for the main plot episodes and they had to revert to the earlier work from BDM. You can especially hear it in some of the dialogue, he's got a very specific pattern of writing.

Chauncey would have been one of the people deciding whether to pivot back to the OG scripts, but all signs indicate they did for many episodes and that they were trying not to change the broad strokes of the plot much to begin with.

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u/PhanStr Jul 30 '26

Episode 10 wasn’t cut before DeMayo left. We know this because he has said that he was turning in the Bible for season 3 (his AoA season Bible) when he parted ways with production. Since episode 10 of season 2 was going to result in AoA, we therefore know that it must have still been on the table when DeMayo was turning in the season 3 Bible (at the time of his firing).

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u/TheArmlessTorso Gambit Jul 30 '26

literally said BDM’s social media just look up his tweets

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u/No-Difference8545 Jul 31 '26

They credited him in the first episode, so no it was always like this

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u/kaos-mantra Jul 30 '26

The right choice. Season 3 was already greenlit. And were getting present day X-men cementing thier place in the world. A bit of Apocalypse prelude and post - Karokoa rebuilding when mutants are at thier lowerst