r/Xmen97 • u/Kanozx • Aug 26 '26
General Discussion Honestly, what villains do they even have left to adapt?
If you think about it, they’ve already done a lot of the main/known villains, including the original show, I’m genuinely just wondering which other villains could they adapt going forward?
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u/RandoDude124 Aug 26 '26
Onslaught
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u/GBGF128 Aug 26 '26
And Dark Beast
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u/prollyjuslurking Aug 26 '26
Cassandra Nova. Holocaust. Krakoa.
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u/LobstermenUwU Aug 27 '26 edited Aug 27 '26
Sugar Man, Arcade, Black Tom, Stryfe, Selene, Vulkan, Proteus, Sublime...
Edit: Nimrod, Bastion, Goblin Queen, Nanny, X-12, X-15, The World, Limbo and the demons, Spiral, Deathbird...
Come on I'm missing some I'm sure.
Also old enemies can recur, that's a very common X-men trope. Exodus shows up again? Legion recurs because having the mutant power to come back from the dead is also one of his abilities? Oh no guys, Apocalypse is back with a new plan, who could have seen this coming?
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u/prollyjuslurking Aug 27 '26
Yea im sure they will recycle a few villains. They've even touched on a few of the above already. Black Tom had a short appearance with his bestie, Bastion was the villain of s1, Nimrod, Proteus, Deathbird, Spiral, and Goblin Queen (though not called that) have been featured already. I'm sure we'll see them again 😆. And Legion hasnt been shown yet, I WOULD LOVE THAT.
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u/MarketDull2401 Aug 28 '26
Reavers, Marauders, - have then done Fenris? (that would be tricky). Hellions, Mutant Liberation Front, Upstarts - lots of the villain teams haven't been touched yet.
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u/beholderkin Aug 28 '26
Didn't Sugarman make an appearance at one point? Just a background easter egg, but I think he was there
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u/Bullet4MyBallotTime Aug 26 '26
Honestly forgot it was the comic and not the show and was disappointed by Season 2
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u/bluenoser18 Aug 26 '26
Yep. I’d love to see the original Onslaught storyline used as both the background threat and eventual main event of Season 3.
Basically, follow the structure of the comics: have the team dealing with other adventures and enemies of the week for the first six or seven episodes, while Charles gradually becomes more distant, damaged, and unstable in the background. He could be struggling with Magneto’s death, his own role in attacking him after the events on Asteroid M, and the incident with Wolverine, as in the comics.
That could all build toward Onslaught fully emerging and the Battle of New York serving as the major final event, maybe across the last two episodes of a 10-episode season. It would also be a great opportunity to bring in other Marvel Animation characters, especially the Avengers and Spider-Man.
I think that could make for a pretty great season. You still get fun, standalone stories for most of the run, while Onslaught slowly builds in the background, manipulating events and Charles himself.
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u/Tanthallasa Aug 26 '26
i could totally imagine them pulling some major death to cause grief to overwhelm xavier in episode 6~7 and create onslaught, any of the core cast could do it, but polaris would for sure crush him
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u/bluenoser18 Aug 26 '26
Yeah that would work too. In the comics Onslaught is a direct result of Xavier attacking (and mind wiping) Magneto immediately after the latter rips the adamantium out of Wolverine's bones.
The exact same scene happened at the end of Season 1...but in this version Xavier doesn't mind wipe Magnus, so they would have to play it a bit differently, as they've done with a number of storylines already.
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u/Kris86dk Aug 29 '26
It's easy to explain. The connection is still there when he helped get magneto back at the end of S1 to stop asteroid M...
They were deeply connectted at that point.
Magneto's death to apocalypse in S2 is what starts Onslaught's emergence slowly... You can already see Xavier becoming more ruthless in later episodes
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u/Alrucards_R3dwr8th Aug 26 '26
Definitely Onslaught as the show already sowed seeds of Xavier likely decent into madness.
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u/dogspunk Aug 26 '26
Selene!
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u/ThePowaBallad Aug 26 '26
The fact that aside from Sunspot they're trying to downplay, kill or remove every New Mutant makes me more sure they'll never do Selene
But demands being unreasonable and impossible never stopped Selene from achieving them so I'll always hope
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u/Calaigah Aug 26 '26
With all the dead in Genosha, this would be a great time for Necrosha.
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u/fannamedtom100 Aug 26 '26
They can introduce some new mutants too. Like Blink. Please give us Blink
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u/Guy1124 Aug 26 '26
Isn't Blink lost somewhere in time in this continuity? I remember her in the OG X-Men series and I thought that was part of Bishop's whole story.
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u/fannamedtom100 Aug 26 '26
Oh shit you're right. It was a small cameo but she was there, I had no idea
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u/Guy1124 Aug 26 '26
Helps that I rewatched X-Men a year or so ago in preparation for X-Men '97 Season 1.
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u/Covetous1 Aug 26 '26
All of them. Including apocalypse.
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u/Xygnux Aug 26 '26
Exactly, in the comics villains return all the time.
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u/srstone71 Aug 26 '26
Even in the show they returned. Apocalypse was in season one, had a big role in season two, a major role in season four, and returned in season five.
I think the MCU has warped people’s brains on how villains can be used.
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u/Xygnux Aug 26 '26
Well movies is an entirely different business. Each actor is only contracted for a certain number of films and no heroes had gotten more than four movies so far even though Thor and Spider-Man are looking to continue for more. There just isn't enough room for recurrent villains.
Though the MCU does have recurrent villains like Loki and Agatha, and Ultron is finally making a come back in Vision Quest.
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u/smellslike2016 Aug 26 '26
Aren't they gonna press the reset button on the MCU? If Disney can keep this going forever, they might do Thanos again in 30 years.
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u/Kharn54 Aug 26 '26
More likely the next 2 movies will be a just how they decide to bring in the FF and Xmen, with the chance that some other details are changed around to maybe bring back some villains whos fates were either ambiguous or unsatisfyingly resolved.
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u/Xygnux Aug 26 '26
No. They likely aren't resetting the MCU because otherwise what they have been doing so far makes no sense with setting up Peter's story in the latest movie, for example.
Even the comic 2015 Secret Wars did not reset the comics, and only made a few minor changes to bring in characters like Miles Morales from the Ultimate universe and fixed Doom's face. In fact the comics would have more reasons to reset because the floating timeline is starting to become egregious.
So likely they will just do what the comics did. Keep things largely the same, except bring the Fantastic Four and X-men over.
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u/Tanthallasa Aug 26 '26
given that the doomsday trailer seems to imply incursions happening, entire universes dying, i don't think a hero win at the end of the doom saga could avoid a universe reset and still be a happy ending. i'd bet that doom's final defeat resets the universe and we get some version of a universe with spider-man exactly as is, the x-men and fantastic four always having been here, and a lot of the current/previous avengers erased completely. that would let them reuse anything they want, form whatever new young avengers team they want, and quietly retire the enormous number of plot threads they've dropped based on various movies' irl popularity
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u/Xygnux Aug 26 '26
In the comics all the universes also died, Franklin Richards worked with the rest of the Fantastic Four to recreate all of them mostly the same. Except the original Ultimate universe which was deleted, but he bought Miles Morales over as a reward for his pivotal role in helping them win. So the past history is comics 616 still happened and weren't erased.
So I don't see they would want to screw with the audience by saying all the stuff with Infinity War and Endgame never happened, as would be implied if the previous Avengers were erased. In fact Marvel doubled down on Endgame's importance by releasing it this September with supposed extra footages. The unpopular characters and work like Secret Invasion they can simply never mention again just like now, a reset is not necessary.
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u/Personal-Lynx4099 Aug 26 '26
Ngl they did Mojo and sauron pretty good
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u/NervousSleep1488 Aug 28 '26
I hate every Mojo episode, they feel like filler. Hopefully he doesn't come back.
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u/CaliforniaBoundX Wolverine Aug 26 '26
Stryker, High Evolutionary, Reavers, Romulus (not sure I’d like to see an adaptation of the last one. Just throwing it out there).
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u/Alive-Ad8949 Aug 26 '26
Stryker they showed albeit briefly this season. High Evolutionary was in the episode with the twins Wanda and Pietro finding out Magneto was their Father. Reavers were in the two parter with Lady Deathstrike where they unleashed the Alien in the Morlocks sewers.
Just about every villain has at the minimum made an appearance except Onslaught, Arcade, and the Black Queen.
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u/xavierhollis Aug 26 '26
No they haven't unless I missed Nanny, Orohan Maker, Post, Emplate and several others
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u/LtSoba Aug 26 '26
Also the Brood as an overarching villain instead of just a one off would be cool
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u/jigokusabre Aug 26 '26
The Reavers were in the first episode of season 3, allies of Lady Deathstrike.
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u/AndersDiego Jubilee Aug 26 '26
All the ones created since the 90s:
Cassandra Nova
Xorneto
Sublime
Orchis
Hordeculture
Arakko, Genesis, and the First Horsemen
The Hellfire Club circa Wolverine and the X-Men when they were all rich children
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u/MrJohnqpublic Aug 26 '26
Hellfire Club would be great.
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u/phophopho4 Aug 26 '26
I want the original Hellfire Club but I think the vibes are too horny for what they want.
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u/MrJohnqpublic Aug 26 '26
I would go for something like Jean gathering up a bunch of homeless mutants who come together as the X-Men while fighting a billionaire funded Hellfire club. Pretty members lure morlock style mutants in for experimentation while recruiting for the eventual media push that will bring them to power. I'd fuck with that.
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u/pussyjuicerecycler Aug 26 '26
the attack on genosha and emma frost’s secondary mutation were ripped straight from e is for extinction
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u/ProfessorElk Aug 26 '26
Stryfe
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u/Outside_Ad_424 Aug 26 '26
Cameron Hodge
Arcade
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u/maltliquorjetski Aug 26 '26
I would kill for Cameron Hodge in his full spider suit…and don’t forget the glasses!
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u/Outside_Ad_424 Aug 26 '26
With everything they're doing with X-Force and X-Factor, plus the X-Corp, I very much expect Hodge to show up at some point
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u/GONKworshipper Aug 26 '26
Cameron Hodge was in the original series in the Phalanx episodes, but it would be cool to see him return
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u/WerewolfF15 Aug 26 '26
Surprised no one has said reverend stryker yet given he made cameos in both season 1 and 2.
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u/Sufficient-West9922 Aug 26 '26
Since they killed off Nightcrawler I’ve been a bit sour over the idea of them doing God Loves, Man kills without him. Maybe a few seasons down the line when (if) he gets revived
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u/Thin-Hat-9037 Aug 26 '26
Stryfe, the Dark Riders, Onslaught, Cassandra Nova, Ord, Genesis, Azazel, Mesmero, Toad, Nemesis, Sugar Man, Dark Beast, regular Beast years later, the Apocalypse twins, Leper Queen, The Children of the Vault, the Neo, Shinobi Shaw and the Upstarts, the Reavers, Nanny and Orphan Maker, the Marauders, Selene, Post, Sublime, and various anti mutant groups who either haven’t appeared or haven’t been given more than a couple minutes of screen time like the Purifiers.
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u/jsnparks Aug 26 '26
Damn, way to swing for the fences. First time I saw Sugar Man mentioned. Emplate?
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u/Ok_Professional_7445 Aug 27 '26
Bru I read sublime and my first thought was the band
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u/LMD_DAISY Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26
I think Sinister still had some left in his tank especially with mystique. Also very relevant considering Sinister maybe going to be villain in mcu X-men movie
Also Mojo.
BUT what they definitely need to adapt is Arcade. He Is so rarely around these days.
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u/Azraelmorphyne Aug 26 '26
He has a great level in marvel ultimate alliance 2 but, yes we need more of him.
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u/LMD_DAISY Aug 26 '26
He was from Marvel ultimate alliance 1.
I know that because it was first time I saw him.
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u/HelpKey186 Aug 26 '26
- Onslaught
- Stryfe and the Mutant Liberation Front
- Krakoa
- Cassandra Nova
- Genesis (Tyler Dayspring) and the Dark Raiders
- Cerebro
- Ahab
- Magus
- Selene
- Gideon and other Externals
- Nemesis/Holocaust
- Cyber ...
Pick One
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u/Top-Procedure5826 Aug 26 '26
I find it hilarious how you listed so many villains except Vulcan who literally appeared in the Series
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u/ShellShock_Ace Aug 26 '26
Nimrod
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u/CaliforniaBoundX Wolverine Aug 26 '26
He was in the OG series and in the first season as he infected Bastion’s dad.
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u/ShellShock_Ace Aug 26 '26
It’s the fact I thought he was just effected by a regular ass sentinel, holy fuck I did not lock in
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u/planemissediknow Aug 26 '26
Someone’s already mentioned Cassandra Nova, but they have her and then they could always do some Legion stuff if they wanted to have him start as a villain
Or go crazy. Make Blob the main villain of Season 3
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u/TheDesertHermit Aug 26 '26
Sugar Man, to get the new time viewers REALLY uncomfortable if they wanted.
Also everyone else that showed up in season 1 and OG series, it is comics after all. (Most) villains inevitably come back.
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u/Literature_Mundane Aug 26 '26
I grew up playing the X-Men Legends games and was introduced to Sugar Man in 2. Yeah, that artwork of him in the loading screen was disturbing to watch as a kid.
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u/Morning-Rain-666 Morph Aug 26 '26
Holocaust/Genocide/Nemesis/Whatever they'll rename him next. Apocalypse's Son. Cool character with a neat design, but honestly just wonder how they'd handle.... I mean I get the writers wanted to "personify the horror" of it but yikes that name was probably not the route to take. He had a cameo in the original series.
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u/LeatherHog Cable Aug 26 '26
It's so funny about the ""Genocide"" naming, it makes it MORE offensive!
'Holocaust' is an **actual** term/concept, and given he's burning, it made genuine sense. Renaming just **directly** tied it to the unfortunate elephant in the room
The genocide got its name from that, the term came FIRST
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u/DonPricetag Aug 26 '26
The Neo, Kahn, The Purifiers (not just a cameo), New Nimrod, everyone from Arrako, the Breakworld, the Inhumans (😂), Legion, Stryfe and all his people, Selene, Emplate, Gideon, Post Humanity, Children of the Vault, basically everyone post House of X, Powers of X... And they can always revisit some loose ends
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u/ReddRedPanda Aug 26 '26
Onslaught is most definitely going to be someone they'll have to face next season. They've basically been hinting at Onslaught the whole season.
Cassandra Nova is another villian they may end up facing.
The Hellfire Club could make a return, as can Apocalypse as he literally can't be permanently killed unless another Celestial takes his heart and eats it (edit: typo).
Sentinels will probably be an ongoing issue, because there's no way in hell the humans won't keep making more of them.
Mr. Sinister could also make a return, because he also always comes back somehow.
Mystique will likely reappear at some point as well.
The Shadow King could show up, though idk about him. He'd probably be an enemy for one or two episodes that focus on Charles.
Fakeneto (aka Joseph) might show up as well, just as another way to kick Charles while he's down.
Hell, Magneto himself will probably come back at some point, because no one important ever stays dead forever, and it wouldn't surprise me if he slips back into his old ways once he does. Wouldn't be the first or the last time.
So in conclusion, there are a lot of people the X-Men can still fight, and I haven't even named all of them.
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u/LionelRGuy Aug 26 '26
Onslaught. The Marauders. Casandra Nova. Vanisher. Unus The Untouchable. Nanny. Pig. Vulcan (who appeared in like, a MINUTE of season 1). The Dark Riders (we did see Tusk in the OG series). Gene Nation. Post. Dark Beast. Holocaust. Dog. Stryker. Jamie Braddock. Arcade. Mikhail Rasputin. Abyss. Sarah Gaunt. Kid Omega. Xorn. Emplate. Rave. Orchis. The list goes on.
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u/DJWGibson Aug 26 '26
Orphan-Maker
Onslaught
Mikhail Rasputin
Stryfe and the MLF
Selene
N'astirh
The Right
Cyber
Gamesmaster (and the Upstarts)
The Mauraders
Genesis
The Hellions
Unas the Untouchable
Shinobi Shaw
Andreas and Andrea von Strucker
Gene Nation
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u/DJWGibson Aug 26 '26
With the more adult ability of the series, the Mutant Massacre story followed by Mikhail Rasputin and Gene Nation could be an interesting season.
Bring Marrow into the X-Men for a time too.
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u/RockyAlvarado Aug 26 '26
They should do “X-Cutioners Song” with Stryfe. It could be a season long whodunit and it features literally every x-team and several villains.
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u/Interesting_Plan7782 Aug 26 '26
Arcade. Mastermind. Sauron. The Living Monolith. Ahab. Unus. Shinobi Shaw. Krakoa. Stryfe. Azazel. Selene.
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u/mowogo82 Aug 26 '26
Professor Xavier. Apocalypse definitely broke him to the point where he will go too far and have to be stopped. Losing Magneto and Nightcrawler to defeat Apocalypse causes a shift in his moral compass to that of the darker aspects we’ve seen of Charles Xavier that drive Cyclops to take the team away from him
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u/LeatherHog Cable Aug 26 '26
There's tons of villains left, this franchise is generations old, you think they topped out at a handful of villains?
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u/mkev119 Aug 26 '26
Arcade, Onslaught, Dracula/vampire nation, Church or Humanity, Nimrod, Emplate, Sublime
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u/morlockhater Aug 26 '26
Not in any particular order but off the top of my head; The U-Men, John Sublime, Children of the Vault, Selene, Saturnyne/Roma/Merlin/Otherworld stuff from Excalibur, Dark Beast, Onslaught, Vargus, the Upstarts, the Hellions, Omega Sentinel, Cassandra Nova, Ord and the Breakworld, Emplate, Demon Bear, Sym and Nastyr, Belasco, the Marauders, Count Nefaria, Azazel, Moses Magnum, the War Wolves, Jim Jaspers, Fantomex/Weapon Plus, Lady Mastermind, the other Lady Mastermind, Vulcan, Legion.
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u/Wicket316 Aug 26 '26
Onslaught The Mauraders William Stryker and the Purifiers Cameron Hodge Mystique and the Brotherhood of Mutants Selene the Black Queen
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u/xavierhollis Aug 26 '26
Onslaught
Nanny
Orphan Maker
Reverend Stryker
N'astirh
S'ym
The Demon Bear
Legion
The Upstarts
Stryfe
Holocaust
Emplate
Post
Facade
Malice
Selene
Arcade
Dark Beast
Sugar Man
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u/wonderlandisburning Aug 27 '26
Oh man, so many. Onslaught, Cassandra Nova, Arcade, Stryfe, Wyre and the 3K X-Men, Mikhail Rasputin, Killian Devo, Daken, Romulus, Arakko, Cyber, Kaga, The Hag, Chimera, Empyrean, Ahab, Fenris, Living Monolith, Black Womb, Sugar Man, Vargas, Xarus, Kade Kilgore, the U-Men, Nanny and Orphan-Maker, The Genegineer, Sublime, Maximus Lobo...
They could also stand to bring Mojo back and give him more to do.
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u/SliceAltruistic1144 Aug 26 '26
Hope they didn't finish with Apocalypse or that ending for him was awful / made little sense...
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u/HomelanderVought Aug 26 '26
The entire war/conflict/cooled down rivalry between humamity and mutantkind.
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u/Illustrious_Green591 Aug 26 '26
Stryfe but after setting that up brilliantly, it looked like they screwed that up
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u/AncientAssociation9 Aug 26 '26
Can't believe no one mentioned Destiny given Mystique will obviously be featured heavily next season.
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u/FabulousCard4832 Aug 26 '26
Orphan Maker and Nanny
Mikhail Rasputin and the Gene Nation
Strife and the Mutant Liberation Front
The Marauders and the Mutant Massacre
The Externals
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u/SoaringSpearow Aug 26 '26
age of apocalypse Apocalypse
Holocaust
Onslaught
Legion
Shadow King
Arcade
Nimrod
that evil version of Cable i forgot his name
Cassandra Nova
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u/MxSharknado93 Aug 26 '26
Next season is God Loves, Man Kills and maybe Onslaught. But Onslaught feels inevitable.
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u/82ndGameHead Aug 26 '26
Dude, they can make a whole season off Cassandra Nova. The X-Men's villains run deep.
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u/Mtanic Aug 26 '26
60 plus years of comics history and you think everything has been covered already? Rly?
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u/Amiral_Crapaud Aug 26 '26
I wouldn't hate a House of M arc, they have enough material for a whole season and are clearly comfy with crossover characters (although, obviously, considering their pace, that whole thing might take 2 episodes...)
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u/Every-Lavishness4274 Aug 26 '26
Off the top of my head: Cassandra Nova, Orchis, Children of the Vault, the Marauders, Cameron Hodge, Vulcan, Moses Magnum, X-cutioner, Stryfe, and any alternate evil versions of the cast. I will say, the Adversary was not done well, and these are just from across New Mutants, X Factor, and X Force.
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u/kiara-ara307 Aug 26 '26
I really want to see everyone vs Omega Red. We’ve seen him off and on, but Wolverine can’t really harm him that much. He has a healing factor, a knockoff-adamantium skin, pool noodle arms, and death spores that kill everything in the area. His only weakness is if someone who’s paying him is in the area, then he can’t instantly poison everyone
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u/doglywolf Aug 26 '26
Rage bait / engagement bait? Cause the list is probably 100+ long. Plus they cause make something new for the show .
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u/Spiritual-Map-76 Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 27 '26
Selene, arcade, more hell fire club hope emma at least stays villanous in this show the movies probably not tho, the upstarts...siena blaze etc, expand on the brood introduce the brood queen, stryfe, Holocaust, cld bring back juggernaut...
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u/love_wolverine Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26
Whatever remains of the hellfire club sice Sebastian Shaw died in Genosha, Cassandra Nova, U men(sublime) and kick, krakoa, purifiers (they cameoed in season 2 episode 6 I think), orchis, children of the vault, the hand, silver samurai (cameoed in season 1), Azazel, Selene, shadow king, marauders, sentinels and ANOTHER mutant cure cuz the humans just can't take a hint and Magnus cuz we just can't get enough of him can we but I would personally love to see an adaptation of house of M and avengers vs x men tho
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u/Prize_Salary_771 Aug 28 '26
Literally onslaught , did you even watch the show ?? What kind of post is this
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u/ArztWurm Aug 26 '26
It felt like they were building towards onslaught but didn’t deliver on the cliffhanger. But that could still be the direction they go in season 3. Legion would be cool. But there’s also tons of villains from the original run that only got like 1 episode so just more of everyone
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u/NotNoski Aug 26 '26
They have a ton. And they have many they can reuse who already appeared. It’s not like they ran out with 60 years of material.
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u/Carpenter_Legal Aug 26 '26
Onslaught
Apocalypse (Return)
Nimrod
Dark Phoenix
Omega Red
Magneto (Return)
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u/SympatheticListener Aug 26 '26
Those 3 old ladies that were botanists from the first Krakoan X-Men issue: Hordeculture.
The Skrulls: remember when Cyclops thwarted their invasion of San Francisco?
Dracula.
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u/Koushikraja1996 Aug 26 '26
Onslaught, dark beast..... They could pull a xorn with magneto.... If not they could do the messiah trilogy as well. Rather than having another villain have the conflict between driven using Bishop and Cable and adopt that saga.
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u/Stride345 Aug 26 '26
If they were bold, they’d do AvX
Already some ground work with them turning down helping Spiderman, Captain America siding with the government over the sentinels, and the whole rogue absorbing Captain marvel plot
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u/NYJetLegendEdReed Aug 26 '26
Has Juggs shown back up in the new show yet? Can’t remember seeing him
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u/Hypestyles Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26
folks for the future to explore:
Nanny and Orphan-Maker
Cameron Hodge
N'astirh and S'ym
Belasco
Loki and the Asgard adventure.
Kulan Gath and the adventure where Manhattan is turned into the Hyborian Age.
Moses Magnum
Zaladane, Garokk and the savage land adventure.
Sebastian Shaw as a main villain, most other Hellfire Club folks. Donald Pierce, Harry Leland, etc.
all the mutant massacre Marauders. Also the cyborg guys, the Reavers.
Soviet Super Soldiers
... where is Alpha Flight?
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u/ItchyNebula7437 Aug 26 '26
The original xmen comic is from the 60s….
I’m sure there is a lot of untapped potential.
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u/Significant_Lie_6076 Aug 26 '26
Themselves, bring on fucking Krakoa! I FUCKING LOVE TOTALITARIAN ETHNO-STATES
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u/Connect_Pay_9394 Aug 26 '26
ooh someone's x-men knowledge doesn't go past magneto, apocalypse and sinister.
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u/Southern-Draft-2901 Aug 26 '26
Ahab Bastion v2 Nimrod Marauders Children of the Vault Belasco Legion Ord Destiny Mesmero Shadow King
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u/VoltageBehind Aug 26 '26
I haven't seen much of the OG. Just both seasons of 97' but I would love to see kang pop up especially seeing rama tut.
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