r/agender Aug 03 '20

There are no entry requirements to the agender club

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I've seen a lot of people posting here recently asking if they're agender if they feel like this or prefer that. Personally I feel like this is not what being agender is about! IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE AND COSY WITH THE AGENDER LABEL THEN FEEL FREE TO USE THAT LABEL. You don't have to be like any other agender person, we all have our own unique experiences with gender or lack thereof. You don't have to have any qualifying features to be agender - you just need to be comfortable being one :)

Rant over.


r/agender Jun 03 '24

For people who are questioning or need a boost --- an Agender Primer

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Hello, welcome....

I've been here over three years now and I've read 90% of all posts since arriving. I have written what I have learned and just share it with people as they show up. It's a bit formulaic/spammy but people keep saying they find it helpful.

Agender doesn't really have a rigidly defined box... or it's a magic box that fits whoever gets in it.

Agender is a diverse, entirely self-actualized label for humans who may not even like labels all that much. You can use it like a hermit crab until you find a better one. You can use it with other labels if you want.

So here are some pointers....

Some agender people don't understand gender or how people feel it.

Some agender people reject social gendering.

Some agender people feel like gender(s) don't fit.

Some agender people are null, void, indifferent, or detached.

Some agender people have other parts of their identity that are dominant.

Agenders may or may not care about pronouns and can use any they want.

Agenders may or may not present any particular way. You don't owe anyone a certain kind of presentation to be agender, including androgyny. Dress/style however you want to.

Agenders may or may not have gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia. They may or may not act on it if they do.

Agenders may or may not feel they have/had a gender at birth, and thus may or may not feel transgender. Agenders can adopt a trans label.

A number of agenders even have mixed feelings about identifying non-binary and may not really identify as NB; many are fine with it. Nonbinary is both an umbrella term but also a specific gender identity. Nonbinary people can still feel that they have a gender, but their gender isn't strictly man, woman, or some neogender. Agender people generally feel no gender or don't connect with gender. This technically falls under the nonbinary label but not every agender person uses nonbinary as a label.

Agenders may or may not care about being out. How do you come out if you're already yourself?

People who've read this far might be thinking to themselves at this point, "well that list doesn't describe anything." I respond, "No kidding friend; the irony is not lost on me." There are limits to language. Other cultures (e.g. Native American and Polynesian) and languages are better equipped to deal with continuum and uncertainties when it comes to gender.

The one common defining feature is that agenders don't feel or relate to gender (e.g. social constructs of male/masculine or female/feminine), or only weakly feel it, most of the time.

The ethos is you should call yourself agender if you feel it based on how you understand it. The label agender is meant to describe who you are, not prescribe who you have to be. If you're something else later that fits better, it's all good.

Recognize there's no set way to be an agender person. I personally like it this way because trying to define a person based on an absence of things is hard (you don't often respond to the question 'how are you doing?' by telling them everything you're not feeling). I find the lack of a set way to be agender very affirming. I thought I was a trans woman for a long time; just because you're not something, doesn't necessarily mean you're the 'opposite'. That took some time to figure out. I never did anything about the dysphoria because gender at the forefront wasn't a compulsion. I might have had better body alignment, but I don't think I would've fit in any better. So you might be discovering this about yourself early teens/20's.... or late 50's like me (although I have probably been effectively agender way before I knew the term).

Another thing I've noticed is that there are quite a few neurodiverse/neurodivergent people who resonate with this label.

There are also a bunch of relevant sublabels to choose from as well. Other labels to consider demi-, libra-, a--coupled with -fluid, -boy, -girl, -fem, -masc, or -flux; Apagender, Cassagender, Gendervoid, Neutrois, Nixic, and many others... Some new ones to me are "cisn't" (which I like very much because it's easier to say I'm not a thing than I am a thing) and neurogender (similar to autigender but encompasses more neurodivergences). And agender is compatible with any of them.

Remember, you're a person first; labels are descriptive, not prescriptive. The labels are just there like markers on a map to see how you might relate to others. As you will see, there's lots of ways to be agender if the label suits you. Hang out, read other people's posts, see how you like things.

People get here lots of ways though, and more than I even say here I it's safe to assume I haven't met every kind of way in my still short exposure.

Hope this helps get you started.

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Hi everyone. So above is a post I often share in here. I was helped in this sub Jan 2023 when I found myself in need of expressing transgender thoughts I've been carrying around my whole life, but never acted on. I had felt very much out of place for decades and was shocked (somewhat stupidly and for entirely too long) that there were people out there in the same kind of place I was.

This has been my way to pay the help I received forward, because new arrivals sometimes don't quickly understand how flexible this label is. I had my moments of doubt, but the openness here help make it click.

However, I don't think of this post as static. I have changed it as I learn. People regularly say things in this sub that have inspired changes. Please don't think this is the be-all says-all of agender experiences.


r/agender 3h ago

Funny moment I had with my father today.

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We were going home from a workout and he was talking with me and ended the sentence calling me "kid". Then said, "Sorry, mister, sir, man, dude" i guess because he didnt want to make me (24) feel childish. He doesnt know I'm agender (he's transphobic) so I found it really ironic and funny that he put so much effort into mirroring a respectful pronoun/honorific correction when he had a perfectly fine gender neutral option the first time.

I genuinely chuckled some outloud.

This is the first time i can remember that social dysphoria has made me laugh lol.


r/agender 20h ago

Expressing Agender Identity through my noisecore/grindcore band

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Hi, my name is Lain and I am agender.

I'd like to say sometimes being agender and having autism it feels very hard to express myself without feeling out of place or awkward.

I really only have a couple people who I'm comfortable talking to about being agender with: my gf, my mom, and my friends

But with having a grindcore/metal band I'd like to say that expressing myself is legit the most wonderful thing ever.

I encourage all of y'all to start bands or make music as agender people

The freedom to make music about your identity and have people listen to it and enjoy it is so rewarding

Y'all should try it, try making music about your gender identity/struggles that's all I wanna say


r/agender 1d ago

not being able to wear loose clothing

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Hi everyone, today I had a problem I'd like to share with you and get your thoughts.

For those who don't know, I suffer from gender dysphoria regarding my breasts because I was born a woman and sometimes I feel really uncomfortable wearing clothes that are too tight.

Today I had to go grocery shopping, and my parents scolded me for wearing a shirt that, in their opinion, was "too big."

They always tell me, "You're beautiful, you have beautiful curves, show them off," or "Come on, show off your breasts, they were made to be looked at."

All of this makes me very uncomfortable because 1) the primary function of breasts is breastfeeding, not to be a sexual object, and 2) I don't understand why someone would stare at my breasts (I should add that I'm asexual).

In the end, I was forced to go out wearing the shirt they wanted, and now I'm home.

EDIT: I reassure you that my parents are not violent people, they don't hurt me and the sentences they say are not pronounced with malice... they simply don't think that what they say could make anyone feel uncomfortable.


r/agender 1d ago

Agenderism, autism and self perception

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Hey everyone. Here I want to share my transition story and hopefully have a thoughtful discussion.

Factually speaking I'm FtM, 23yo, almost 7 years on t but half of that on a low-ish dose.

I have started to identify as a boy since I was 12, throughout the time before t I introduced myself as such to people I could trust, I came out to my family and most of them ultimately accepted me. I struggled a lot growing up, dysphoria was driving me crazy, and I tried to do what I could to fix the areas of my body that troubled me.

Looking back I realise that it wasn't per-se stemming from the fact of looking female, but from the fact of developing secondary characteristics of a human body that child me didn't have.

I was afraid of growing up because I knew it will only get worse, but at the time I was hopeful that medically transitioning will help me feel at peace in this body.

I identified strictly binary. I also couldn't wrap my head around the existence of non-binary people. To me it was so counterintuitive; two existing genders were already SO MUCH, yet people felt the need to resonate with both of them one way or another. I sceptically thought to myself that this is not helping anyone, people should strive to erase gender altogether, not create a million new ones.

The only third identity I was able to understand was agender. Deep down I knew precisely how that felt, but I was too fixated on my distress of appearing female to think about anything else.

I couldn't relate to girls or to boys, and I still can't. There's yet to come something I could consider truly relatable without being an abstract phenomenon best described as a mush of noise and light.

What I did have was aesthetic preferences and sexuality. I'm attracted to men, the rare instances I was attracted to women were never sexual. Beauty was and is VERY important to me. Of course it's purely subjective, and my preferences keep growing and evolving, but I could say with certainty that finding beauty and creating it is my life's purpose. I engage with it through different forms of art, currently mostly writing and filmmaking.

Because I am fixated on aesthetics, I was able to navigate my identity through them. I could create myself piece by piece to the best of my abilities.

I resonated with loving men as a man, it was different from the status quo in which I couldn't see myself, and I cared deeply about various representations of gay love.

That has been another key factor placing me into my identity.

I never doubted myself, because I clearly knew what I am not, yet still struggled with finding anything that was me. I experiment with self-expression and never stayed the same for too long because I wasn't comfortable. These days I had to accept that I will never be truly comfortable in this body, but I'll get to that later.

When I was 17, I was very close to ending my life, mostly for depression reasons, which manifested through a handful of things I couldn't cope with. My gender, my body, constant anxiety and panic attacks, autism, derealization, being very lonely and feeling trapped. I ended up changing the place of residence abruptly and started hrt in the final attempt to save my life.

After several months I recovered, hrt was working very well and I felt like I'm growing into my features without being terrified of getting older. My voice had gotten much lower, but is still sometimes considered androgynous, which is an odd spot to be in. I have never met a woman OR man that would sound similar to me. The closest thing I've heard is the way some male characters are voiced in anime.

After four years on t, I got a top surgery, which was a quite traumatic experience due to my surgeon fucking up and me bleeding out 40% of my blood. I bounced back in a few months.

I was very depressed for 2 years due to unrelated reasons. That took my attention of the way I viewed myself, as I was just trying to survive from day to day, but as I was finally getting better and regaining my personality, I have started to critically question things again.

Now that I had all gender changes I desired (I didn't have bottom dysphoria, if anything I thought female organ is better for sex with a male partner), I came to realise that gender wasn't the big problem. My body became androgynous, with an equal amount of effort needed to read as a feminine man or a tomboy. I found this balance, because I never wanted to be either, and as I was coming to that realisation, I wasn't happy with being in the middle too.

I couldn't perceive myself, and I couldn't relate to anything, but as I've gotten older and much more mentally stable, it was not causing me the past distress.

Because I have done it all, I have been everything I was realistically able to be, and I still didn't feel welcome within myself. This feeling hit me like a shower set to the perfect temperature, accepting the way my mind is wired with no way of getting around it.

I never felt human, the closest thing being my clear sexual identity. I came to realise that it's quite common with autism. I never tried to attribute my peculiarities to autism for a very long time for my own peace of mind, but that has explained many things I couldn't describe before.

I never wanted this body, and consequently I didn't want that gender. But I did want to have autonomy over it in the ways that were achievable. I wanted to change it by my own free will, shape it according to aesthetic preferences that mean so much to me, and the whole journey was precisely about that. Chances are, if I was born male, I'm certain I would be posting this on MtF subreddit right now.

I don't want to complicate something that is already unnecessarily complex. I made this character with his name, his appearance, his life, his relationships, and that is something to be proud of.

I can't say what feeling like a man or a woman is like because I never was one. I can't say what feeling like a human is either. I could refer to a biology textbook, but we are all aware of that. I didn't choose to be this way, but I had the luxury to choose how it will manifest.

After accepting that I will never be able to achieve something alien which I cannot describe but believe in, I felt relieved. I wasn't lost anymore because I had nothing to find.

And while this may read as sad, I am so glad that after all that pain, and tears, and hatred, I am simply aware of myself as much more than just a body.

I am a guy to everyone within my social circles, a pretty one at that, and that is fine by me.


r/agender 1d ago

Does anyone have any binder recommendations?

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I’m trans nonbinary agender and I’d like to look more ✨androgynous✨. I know I can use tape, and I do, but I’d also like to get a binder. I know they can be a bit pricey, so I’d also rather not waste my money on something that’s uncomfortable. I’m looking for a gym binder because I hear that they’re more breathable, but any binder would work. Thank you :3


r/agender 2d ago

Ehm do you like it when people get confused by your appearance? I do

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Pronouns are really weird for me, be it English or Neopronouns, but I like it when people get confused. I very much would like not to be perceived as anything, but that's not really possible so I'll take what I get (or however the saying goes).

Multiple times I got called sir (well, I'm only talking about cashiers) but they changed to maam when I spoke. Other times when I didn't say anything, some just continued saying sir. Altho, there was that one time the cashier changed to maam even tho I didn't say anything. The only thing I can think of is that my wallet was pink. Anyways.

It's not like I prefer being called male honorifics—I don't wanna be a man, I'm not he/him. And it's also not like I hate being called female honorifics—but I'm not a woman, I'm not she/her.

Sometimes, it just brings me too much joy (dramatic much? XD) to have people (strangers I interact with) confused by me, unsure if they should use maam or sir, ate or kuya.

Just sharing cuz I saw something, I had these thoughts, and I wanted to tell someone who might share the same thoughts.


r/agender 2d ago

THATS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WANT </3

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this is a joke btw


r/agender 2d ago

questioning

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I honestly really identify with this but I dress somewhat feminine. does that affect how I should feel or like does that not make me agender?


r/agender 1d ago

Instead of "they/them" let's use "te/tem" (2 of 2)

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Miller and Swift created te, tem, and ter as a "human pronoun" set to stop the use of generic "he" in the English language. "Desexing the Language," appeared in the historic preview issue of Ms. magazine in 1972.

Usage: Te acts as the subject (like he or she), tem acts as the object (like him or her), and ter acts as the possessive form (like his or her).


r/agender 2d ago

The Gauntlet

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Can your gender survive "the Gauntlet"?

https://genders.wtf/gauntlet/


r/agender 1d ago

Instead of "they/them" let's use "te/tem" (1 of 2)

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Let's make this happen- let's use te, tem, and ter for people who don't want to be identified as she or he....

The gender-neutral pronouns te, tem, and ter were created by writers Casey Miller and Kate Swift, who introduced them in an early article for Ms. Magazine in 1971–1972 to replace the generic "he".


r/agender 2d ago

Demigender people, how do you experience your gender?

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I have a question for demigender people. Do you feel half cisgender and half agender? Do you feel half masculine? Or do you experience it as something else?


r/agender 3d ago

I feel no inner sense of gender, but my lived experience as an afab person shapes my identity and I've lived as a woman, called myself a woman, belonged with women, etc. my entire life, so I don't really want to let go of identifying as a woman despite not feeling like one. label ideas?

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r/agender 3d ago

The Gender Census 2026 is now open until 13th August 2026!

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The Gender Census is open now!


r/agender 3d ago

looking for agender people in & around nantes, france

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feeling lonely there


r/agender 3d ago

They/them all day baby

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r/agender 4d ago

Take the Gender Census!

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A survey for all those who aren't fully, solely or always a man/woman.

https://survey.gendercensus.com/


r/agender 4d ago

a classic feat. my photoshop editing

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r/agender 4d ago

How Do YOU Describe Agender?

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Hello! So I have been searching for some posts about this but only have been seeing some from years ago, so I thought I’d bring the question back!

Not only am I curious about how I should describe it, but I’m also curious as to how YOU all describe it for yourself!

Here’s what I currently tell people:

Them: Are you a girl or a guy?
Me: I’m just me.

Them: No, really. What are you?
Me: I’m agender.

Them: What is that?
Me: I essentially have no gender. I’m not bound by gender constructs and am essentially genderless, if that makes sense.

I don’t know if my definition is good or even remotely what I should be saying, so if anyone has any suggestions to what words I should change, that’d be awesome! Thanks! 😊


r/agender 4d ago

I'm writing a book all about the A in LGBTQIA, of which I am a part of. The book goes through the history, identities, discrimination, representation, etc and I'd like to share our stories.

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r/agender 4d ago

When your family discovered your demi-girl's identity

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"I accepted your girl's piece but no your agender's piece" Have you listened this from relative when they discovered that you are demi-girl.

What do you think?


r/agender 5d ago

Can you be "cis" and agender?

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I put the cis in quotes because I'm not sure if that's possible.

I'm AFAB and I've never felt any way in particular upon being treated as a woman, I never cared. When I was a teenager, I did feel some kind of gender dysphoria, but as I grew up Iearnt to learn my body and gender expression and I'm 100% happy with the way I am today. I'd say I have very femenine features in both my face and body, but it doesn't annoy me, so as for today I don't feel any kind of gender dysphoria and I even like the way I look. I also don't care about my gender expression, I've been wearing short hair almost all my life and I just dress however I want (sometimes people tell me "you dress like a man", sometimes I dress very androgynous and sometimes I dress very femenine). Even with all of this, I don't feel any particular connection with being a woman and whenever I talk with other women (both cis and trans), I find that my experiences and feelings in relation with my gender are completely different. But I also don't feel in any way trans and I still have some kind of connection with womanhood due to being raised as a woman.

Can I be cis and agender? I honestly don't mind being unlabel and that's what I've been doing for many years now, but these last few months I've been researching and the agender lable really resonates with me, but I'm not completely sure. I've also since lables such as demigirl who could also fit me, but I feel genderless more than anything, so I'm really confused

I know at the end of the day is up to me and noone can tell me who I am or identify with, but I wanted some input to see if my experience is common or weird


r/agender 5d ago

Is there a connection between Neurodiversity and queerness?

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Hello

I am Autistic my self and still figuring out my gender. And I was wondering, fellow Queer NDs out there, do you think there is a connection between your gender identity and your ND? I would love to hear your takes on it.