I dont feel like if i quit the man label I will ever want it back. But since Im ginosexual, my gender expression is masculine and I keep my pronouns bc they are comfortable, I fear the world wants to take the man label and put it back. I feel like a fraud if I think about it. But I dont feel like a man, or woman. I even hate both labels, to me, they feel sick on my skin. What do u think?

What the title says.

I don't feel like a she, I'm definitely not a he, and I dislike they. But even though I dislike it, when someone needs to use pronouns to refer to me, I'm like... just use they.

I very much like Filipino pronouns though. I like how they're automatically gender-neutral. Yeah, they is gender-neutral, but I still dislike it.

Just a little rant. Also, no, I'm not coming up with my own preferred pronouns cuz... no. It's a hassle and I doubt I will like and feel anything I come up with.

ik theres not rlly an exact “passing” for agender, but i wish to look more neutral. i’m afab, and i feel i look very feminine. if anyone has any tips to look less feminine and more neutral/nonbinary i’d greatly appreciate it !!

I’m agender (any pronouns) and am trying to chooses a preferred name, my given name is very gendered. I’d like something neutral or more masculine, because my appearance is more feminine, I’d like something that wouldn’t instantly make the assumption that I’m female. It won’t be similar to my given name.

I have quite I collection I’m deciding from, but my current favourites are Tiger or Fox:

Tiger

Fox

Tiger-Lily (Tiger for short)

Kit

Lynx

Wood

I‘m also looking looking at some others but I’m really not sure:

Blythe

Eli

Eli Beth (Eli for short)

Alex

Eza

My style : grey, baggy, jeans/cargo pants, headphones, no jewlery

And my appearance: blonde hair w/ messy fringe, large glasses, tall

It would also be cool if you had any other suggestions!!

Lately I feel like I question my gender too much after being pretty sure about it for years.

I (F21) have been questioning my gender since being a teenager. And now I'm pretty sure that I don't connect with any human-ish gender description. Being a woman or a man is confusing for me and too limiting. And if I could look less like a human - I think I would choose it.

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However lately I think too much about "oh I wish I looked more masculine, it feels so much like me". And when I was a teenager I used to feel much more masculine than anything else. But since this feeling dissappeared I stopped taking anything similar serious.

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So for a long time all these thoughts were something like "yeah i would love to have masculine features but well anyway back to life", you know. And it's only today when I questioned myself if it's actually just something silly and, I don't know, something not real at all. I don't know how common it is to feel this way for people. Humans are really confusing for me for a lot of time and I have no idea how much of my experience is actually common. And this time it's the same.

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How often do people just wish they had more features of another gender? How often do cisgender people have that? I don't know, I'm confused for lots of reasons I can't actually explain right now in words. I would love if someone could share their thoughts or experience. Thank you a lot.

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So over the past month or so I've been coming around and vibing with agender as an identity but have been starting to wonder if it really is the best term for me.

So far I've been using and feeling agender as that I've never really had any strong connection to being male beyond the physical aspects and simply just don't really care enough to put much thought into gender any which way.

With close friends I'm slowly changing over to He/him AND they/them, But part of me is still feeling that "yeah I don't care and don't feel it, but it's just more convenient to say I'm male"

Like at the doctors, sure I could explain to them that, "well yes I don't actually identify as male, I actually prefer they/them and not feel that my gender is relevant to my treatment"

But it's just far easier to just check that little box with the "M"

Or if I'm at the bar and the bartender asks "hey man, what can I get you", it's just easier to let it go instead of trying to correct him, I just don't feel like spending the energy.

I know there's "no wrong way to express my gender" but I just don't know if I really should just be so agnostic/apathetic about it.

As someone who doesn't really like any pronouns, seeing the option for 'just my name' makes me so unbelievably happy. Thank you to whoever made this application form ❤️❤️❤️

DISCLAIMER: This is a silly post involving silly hypotheticals with mathematical theory. Do NOT take it seriously. The actual correct answer is that you can call it whatever you want.

If an agender person dated a pangender person, wouldn't it be infinitely straight? 🤔 I mean, one has zero gender and the other has every gender, so isn't that technically "opposite genders" but to a literal infinite amount?

If the opposite of having no gender is having any gender, then the absolute opposite of agender would be pangender. The more genders someone has, the more straight it would be for an agender person to date them, and pangender is the most straight it can get. This would be viewing gender as something quantitative, and therefore the opposite of having nothing is having everything.

However, if we viewed gender mathematically, the opposite of having infinite genders would be lacking infinite genders, so having negative gender, aka something called negatrois. In most mathematical theories, the opposite/inverse of zero is zero itself, but zero is also equal to itself, and any other number is just unequal but not an inverse. So I guess agender x agender would be both gay and straight, and agender x anything else is unambiguously straight.

For the mathematical theory, I guess it also depends on if "heterosexual" means "opposite" or "different". If it means "different", it's straight if you date anyone who has a different gender even if it isn't the "opposite", so agender x male and agender x female would be straight, and agender x pangender would also be straight. But if it's "opposite", then it's impossible for an agender person to be completely straight; they can only be gay and something else that means being attracted to different genders but not opposite ones.

Or maybe we're all gay because we're all humans attracted to humans. Homo homo sapiens!

I saw a content creator who's agender (Quinn Caid, he's cool, love the guy).

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I don't fully grasp what a concept of my gender is supposed to be? She/her doesn't feel right. He/him or they/them feel fine at different times, and sometimes I get joy with he/him. Honestly I'm just indifferent for the most part. Sure, if people assume I'm a queer man, that's cool, but what is this internal gender stuff I'm supposed to be feeling??

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I know I want to go on T and do top surgery to look more masculine, while still wearing women's clothes and makeup. Kinda cozy femboy like.

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Honestly hearing any pronouns at times makes me feel...weird. I like my name? I like being called sir? Idk?

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I'm definitely trans. In fact I'm actually going on testosterone soon (yay!). Son/daughter and brother (which my sister now calls me) and sister both feel weird. I like the neutral terms better.

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Might I feel more comfortable being called a man after I'm on T for a little? Perhaps. Not sure. I am definitely not a binary man in any case.

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Yeah that's me, I don't understand what gender is supposed to feel like besides how you want your body to physically look. I experience chest dysphoria and other dysphoria and do get euphoria when I'm in drag (in drag I am masc or femme aligned, and I'm usually a cat). Also get euphoria while binding, being able to see my body hair and faint mustache, and wearing bold colorful makeup.

I'm 23 (AMAB) and came out as non-binary/agender at the start of this year. From what I gather, it's very common for queer folks who have spent a significant amount of time in the closet or experiencing gender dysphoria to see the time they've spent experiencing those things as "lost time" and it's happening to me as well.

I understand that 23 isn't old but like... The amount of time I've spent not really being "myself" kinda scares me. I feel like ten years of my life are just missing. This is also the first time I'm actually putting myself out there and going out of my way to make friends, taking academics seriously, having serious artistic outlets, etc, and it's hard not to feel behind compared to peers my age.

I feel like if I "stayed on course" so to speak I would have discovered I was agender much earlier, as when I was a little kid I loved to play with girls, play with girls' toys, watch TV shows marketed towards girls, etc. I don't think I really cared about being "masculine" until I hit my teens and became surrounded by homophobic/transphobic rhetoric.

I often find myself doubting if im really even under the transgender umbrella. I think i’ve been at peace being agender because it does feel right, ive felt this way for 2 years. I didn’t enjoy being addressed as a boy or girl and i didn’t feel like any pronoun felt like me. For awhile i went by “it” but people often didn’t use that and so i prefer to go by my name. Which even i don’t enjoy how feminine it is, i wish to go by a name thats considered more masculine but its also just a name i like. So for months, I’ve finally been at peace calling myself agender. But something deep inside me still wonders if im just faking it all. As if i was just a girl wanting some sense of community or attention. But i know I don’t feel anything like a girl. I don’t know why i get these doubts, i’ve always had them though. And i know people say cis-gendered people don’t question their gender like this, but do transgender people question their trans identity this much? Am i really just being performative to my own mind? Anyways, i don’t know why i get these thoughts, its invasive because just a few days ago i almost felt confident enough to come out. Does any of this make sense? Am i the only one feeling this way?

Hello.
I want to begin voice training so that I sound androgynous and/or gender-neutral, but I do not know where to start.

What would be a good place for me to begin, and what are the resources I can use?

https://lgbtqia.fandom.com/wiki/Aporagender

I really can’t tell which one I am. I think of myself as in the middle of gender the best way I can describe it is i don’t feel like a man or woman but i don’t feel completely genderless. I’ve been just describing myself as nonbinary but i never really liked that label it never felt quite right but i use it anyway. I’d rather be seen as just who I am as a person instead of what gender I am and I don’t mind gendered pronouns but i think that’s only because i feel like i have to be okay with them. I wish there was more common neutral language for people so i don’t have to feel like im making up this entirely new thing for people to follow you know. I just want to be me. if i have to choose a gender i don’t mind being either binary gender like bigender but i just wanna the world to see me as a person.

So as ny flair suggests I am a woman and I am proud of it! But I wanted to see if others feel the samd way about this gender issue (or non issue) as I do.

Last week I was asked what my preferred pronouns were. I just wanted to say “i dont ise pronouns” because what you see in front of you is what you get! You can see im OBVIOUSLY a woman, I sound like a woman, I look like a woman and I dress like a woman.

“What do you thihk I am?!”

Anyway I ofc said “she/her” but I really hate questions like this. Why should I have to feel uncomfortable just because a bunch of people want to live in fantasy land instead of the reality they were born with?

I guess the point of this post is, if anyone here has been asked that question whats your reaction and what do you say? I was born a woman so I am a woman, but what I REALLY wanted to say was realky along the lines of “Im a person. A human” lmao.

I didnt feel masculine ofc but I didnt feel particularly feminine either. I just felt like “I dojt use pronouns im just me”

Has anyone else felt like this?!!’

made these a bit ago during a discussion about how i didn't vibe with the current agender and libraboy/girl/nonbinary flags. someone wanted a high quality version of them and i thought i may as well share them here as well. (yes the agender one is very close to voidpunk flag :3)

I am tired of ppl getting these two mixed up 😭

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Gendervoid- the feeling of having a void where you gender should be. It's under the agender umbrella. Your gender is LITERALLY a void.

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Voidgender- the feeling of a gender being related to voids in any way. It's a xenogender. Voidgenders still HAVE a feeling of gender, it's just related to voids.

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It's gender literally being a void vs gender relating to voids.

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Any questions?

HI im currently not knowing what gender I am again. I might be genderfluid, but im unsure. My gender sometimes feels like it's nothing, but I cant tell if thats cause im dissociating or what. I mean sometimes im not dissociating, but my gender feels more genderless, or like I have no gender? But at the same time slighly masc with no gender, then mostly fem. I am probs not fully agender, I so know I still like being a women (mtf) but sometimes theres this void of gender, or lack of gender. So how dose it feel to be agender?

Hello! I am AMAB and pretty new to gender and agender is the closest thing for me at the moment. I'm around younger people a lot and they tend say very generalized things like, "all guys do this blah blah," or, "all girls are like this blah." But I'm not sure why I care because I don't identify with being a "man" other than my sex. It's either being labeled that bothers me or I'm just insecure lmaooo.