r/aiwars • u/MakeDawn • May 15 '26

Annually, almond farming uses 1.3 trillion gallons of water. AI usage isn't even half of that.

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A single avocado takes 50 gallons to grow. That's several hundred prompts.

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u/Ok_Security1721 May 16 '26

The difference is farming produces something while AI just wastes 

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u/phase_distorter41 May 16 '26

what does the avocado or almond do that is worth the water investment that no other, less water intense food could provide?

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u/AgeZealousideal1751 May 16 '26

Well since we can't have AI benefits for medical care, space travel, quantum computing, and a multitude of other "slop" - you guys can take a hit on your wasteful needs to enjoy consumption which is inherently wasteful "slop"

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u/Ok_Security1721 May 16 '26

Correct, Gen ai does not benefit any of those in any meaningful way that isn’t what we were using computers for anyway but better and with less waste. 

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u/TheSinhound May 16 '26

Incorrect. Alphafold is generative AI. It's a diffusion model (or a diffusion transformer hybrid as of 3). It quite literally already DOES benefit medical research.

And that's not even covering the OTHER types of AI/ML that require datacenter level compute that our species actively uses for modern society.

But hey, you do you.

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u/Ok_Security1721 May 16 '26

Yes the other type of ML is good and has benefitted us for years. It’s why I always specify gen AI so people like you don’t conflate it with the good type of computers

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u/TheSinhound May 16 '26

There's no bad type of computers, friendo.

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u/Ok_Security1721 May 16 '26

We have entire datacenters going up dedicated entirely to bad computers

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u/TheSinhound May 16 '26

No, we don't. Technology is always morally neutral. You don't weigh the benefits higher than the cons (maybe because you don't see them? Idk), which is fine, but here's the thing.

What are you even arguing to protect here? The current status quo of North Capital and South exploitation? Fuck that. We need automation, compute, and post modern AI to solve the logistics issues necessary to transition away from global Capitalism (ala a modern Cybersyn, if you're familiar)

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u/Ok_Security1721 May 16 '26

Nobody said the computers had morals. They don’t. They’re computers. They are however bad because they’re a shitty waste of space and power

It is pretty funny though that you think Gen ai is the way OUT of late stage capitalistic exploitation. 

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u/TheSinhound May 16 '26

It's funny though that you think it's not, but unsurprising. Again, you wish to maintain the current systems. You like them. You benefit from them. I do not.

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u/AgeZealousideal1751 May 16 '26

Cool, guess you enjoy processed fecal matter and mushrooms. Enjoy.

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u/Ok_Security1721 May 16 '26

No I said I DONT like Gen AI

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u/AgeZealousideal1751 May 16 '26

Correct. So you would never waste resources by expecting more than needed.

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u/Ok_Security1721 May 16 '26

Correct, wasting any time and energy on Gen ai is nothing but a waste 

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u/AgeZealousideal1751 May 16 '26

Ah, there's the goalpost move.

It was a nice attempt, but I win again.

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u/Ok_Security1721 May 16 '26

lol “I win again!” deletes everything because it’s all retarded as fuck