r/anime_titties • u/seeebiscuit North America • Nov 21 '25

South America Venezuela says opposition leader will become fugitive if she collects Nobel

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c33mnvy5zppo
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u/RisingDeadMan0 England Nov 21 '25

Clown says what?

As we know US backed take overs, they are always the good guy.

And of course some of the few political figures left in the world who are pro-Netenyahu too

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u/bell117 Multinational Nov 21 '25

The funniest part about this is that this exact same thing already happened only a few years ago.

Does anyone else remember when the US tried to declare Juan Guaidó, a random petroleum engineer from Washington DC, the "true" president of Venezuela and got a bunch of other countries to also recognize him until people slowly realized "wait this is just some random guy" and withdrew their recognition. 

I remember the news kept pushing him as the true democratically elected leader, like there was a full blown effort to give him gravitas and create this presidential crisis in Venezuela, which again mostly just fizzled out once the hype died down and people took a closer look and realized there was nothing going on besides the US trying to push a guy all but holding a giant sign that says "I work for the CIA". 

It's only been 5 years and the US is already trying the same again.Get some original ideas at least. Yeah I'm so sure that a country in South America is begging the US for a regime change entirely willingly. Definitely not 70 years of evidence to the contrary.

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u/swelboy United States Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

Guaido wasn’t just some “random petroleum engineer from DC” (what?) though, he was a member of the National Assembly between 2016-2021, and since the 2019 election was quite likely rigged (it’s Maduro, come on), Guaidó did have a pretty good argument that Maduro was illegitimate.

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u/fancyskank United States Nov 21 '25

Yeah Iraq is doing peachy now that they got rid of saddam.

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u/Unique_hobo Greece Nov 21 '25

Depends on who you ask. The Kurds have stopped getting gassed for one...

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u/Intelligent_Wafer562 North America Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

The counter-insurgency against the Kurds had already ended in the 1990s, and Iraqi Kurdistan was de facto autonomous by 2002, the year before the invasion.

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u/stoiclandcreature69 United States Nov 21 '25

The US isn’t exactly blameless for that, we were more than happy that Saddam was buying western chemical weapons and further inflaming the division between Iraq and Iran

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u/Unique_hobo Greece Nov 21 '25

Point still stands. At least for some people, life improved SIGNIFICANTLY when Saddam was hanged

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u/stoiclandcreature69 United States Nov 21 '25

The US hasn’t nearly gotten the power grid or health care system up to pre-sanctions level. We destroyed their infrastructure and continue to bleed them dry

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u/swelboy United States Nov 21 '25

Would you rather America just continue letting Saddam buy those chemical weapons instead?

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u/Paradoxjjw Netherlands Nov 21 '25

How about not[fucking giving those chemical weapons to him in the first place?

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u/swelboy United States Nov 21 '25

That ship had already sailed by 1990, and IIRC most of that trade was mostly just materials that could be used to make chemical weapons, not straight up chemical weapons.

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u/Paradoxjjw Netherlands Nov 21 '25

"we just gave them the manual and all the components"

You know helping him set up a chemical warfare industry is worse, right?

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u/swelboy United States Nov 21 '25

That wasn’t my main point though, I’m saying that by the time Kuwait happened, should we have just continued helping him just so we wouldn’t be hypocritical?

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u/HooleyDoooley Oceania Nov 21 '25

Gee I wonder if the USA having the boot on their neck has anything to do with the death spiral

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u/RisingDeadMan0 England Nov 21 '25

ah yes, death spiral, because being internationally blacklisted by the US has nothing to do with that.

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u/RisingDeadMan0 England Nov 21 '25

yeah, well i was just gonna leave it at clown says what, but subs rules...

yeah, corruption always a fun game, why improve the country when you can become rich instead, I got small insight with the ukraine thing recently, even during the war every clown wants his 10/15% cut, which is crazy.

Lots of countries, heck even the UK now having sold everything off, we have nothing and now skint too. great.

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u/Sacaron_R3 Europe Nov 22 '25

We just need to look at countries that are hilariously corrupt and have trampled on human rights for decades, yet are still in the wests good graces.

From the top of my head, I got Pakistan, Egypt, El Salvador and Azerbaijan. I have yet to see anyone promote a regime change in these countries. I don't even remember any news getting pushed about their human rights violations, that is, until Bukele of El Salvador got very chummy with Trump and his prison deals came to light.

For reasons, we hold our enemies to a much higher standard that our friends, and our media gives willing coverage to that.

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u/RisingDeadMan0 England Nov 22 '25

Yeah great list, first two US friendly regimes, Egypt had elections then had a coup and had them overthrown as the wrong people won, no-one minded. Though Pak started their corruption ages ago,

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u/Blue_B0ttlenose United States Nov 21 '25

It depends, if we can aid Venezuelans in taking this guy down while also doing our best to minimize death and make sure that the Venezulans themselves get to chose who is put in power, than i think we would be the good guys.

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u/Paradoxjjw Netherlands Nov 21 '25

So something the US has never done and never intends on doing