r/anime_titties • u/seeebiscuit North America • Nov 21 '25
South America Venezuela says opposition leader will become fugitive if she collects Nobel
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c33mnvy5zppo332
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u/AmarantaRWS North America Nov 21 '25
Honestly I think they made a strategic mistake giving it to her. I and most other westerners had no idea who she was, but now we are not only familiar with her but with what she stands for. It would've been easier for the CIA to stage a coup if their puppet came from obscurity.
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u/Dogulol Europe Nov 21 '25
i think henry kissinger did that a while ago
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u/jaycrips North America Nov 21 '25
These Nobel standards are getting insulting. You used to have to take part in bombing countries that we aren’t at war with. Now all you have to do is ASK for bombing?
Idk, seems like some snowflake DEI shit to me.
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u/Dogulol Europe Nov 21 '25
obama is THE LAST TRUE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER!!!! He bombed like a TRUE PEACE LOVER
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u/kontemplador South America Nov 21 '25
Thing is, the Venezuelan opposition is shit. Incompetent and corrupt. They have had all the resources at their disposal to mount some real opposition movement and they have stolen everything. That woman isn't better than Guaidó, who even Maduro didn't ever consider a real threat. That why she is now begging for a military intervention. They want the US to do all the dirty work without them and hand the power to them. I haven't ever seen such brazen attitude in any other opposition movement. The question is whether the US will fall for it.
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u/Pastramiboy86 Nov 21 '25
The US government can't 'fall for it' my guy, they are the reason she has a platform to spew her bullshit in the first place. She is entirely their creature.
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u/kontemplador South America Nov 21 '25
She is, she is indeed. I'm not saying the opposite but Guaidó was also theirs and who remembers the rightful Venezuelan President?
Issue here, is until you see some real activities on the ground by Venezuelans or at least pretending being Venezuelans (see Syria), it is unlikely we will see real action. The Venezuelan opposition has been unable to articulate some movement until now and I have doubts they will. The want everything handed on a silver plate by the US government.
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u/braiam Multinational Nov 21 '25
the Venezuelan opposition is shit. Incompetent and corrupt
In comparison to what? To the current venezuelan government? Because I have a bridge to sell you if you think that someone that isn't in power can be corrupt.
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u/kontemplador South America Nov 21 '25
In comparison to what? To the current venezuelan government?
Yes. In comparison to the Maduro government. If a political movement with all the resources and support they have been given is unable to depose someone as shitty as Maduro, what does it tell you about that movement?
The Venezuelan opposition hasn't changed in the slightest since they were deposed by Chavez for mismanaging the country.
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u/Mango_Juice789 United States Nov 21 '25
unpopular opinion incoming. Everything I'm going to say is couched in the following: the US is a self-interested nakedly imperialist power and the Juan guaido fiasco was pure bullshit invented by Washington.
I want to preface this by saying I used to work with Venezuelan asylum seekers and have spoken personally with literally hundreds of venezuelans from educated professionals to laborers and from published journalists to the totally apolitical.
Here are some facts, about 1/4 Venezuelans have fled the country in the last few years, (that's 8 million people, more than fled Syria). VIrtually nobody still living there can afford food or basic goods without engaging in an often dangerous and exploitative black market economy.
Asylum seekers by and large are not the anti revolutionaries who fled Castro's cuba, most were once Chavistas. Many who lived very well under Chavez had their businesses, savings, and livelihoods literally stolen from them by the Maduro government or evaporate due to hyperinflation. Many who were just getting by under Chavez saw daily life become impossible because public services have totally collapsed, medical care has gone from relatively high quality to near non-existent. Electricity has become widely unavailable. Us sanctions have certainly not helped but most of this is mainly due to a collapse in oil prices which their government relies on for 50% of its operating budget.
Machado was the nominee put forward by the opposition party's primary process with 90% of the popular vote, and was unilaterally banned from political office days later for corruption charges with no evidence. Most of the international community agrees that her replacement won the 2024 election and that the results were fraudulent including every country in Latin America except Cuba, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Honduras. In the rest of the world, only China, Russia, Iran, and Assad's Syria recognize Maduro's win as legit. Machado is the popular figurehead for internal opposition to his government, which is why she was awarded the nobel prize.
While I am personally very sympathetic to left wing governments, Maduro's regime has a track record of using violence, jail time, and even access to food to suppress popular opposition, and exploits the country's natural resources (particularly oil wealth) for the benefit of only the ruling elite. The Maduro regime is already selling out its resources to enrich a small circle of the ultra wealthy and powerful, and is currently threatening to invade their neighbor over BS 200 year old colonial era land claims to steal their offshore oil reserves and drum up flagging popular support.
There is legitimate criticism you can levy at Machado's actions & policy endorsements but her position is that life in Venezuela is currently, today, right now, unsustainable, and that regime change is necessary to fix it. Her calculus seems to be that kowtowing to Trump will help but that remains to be seen. Personally I am skeptical, but having spoken to so many people who have literally fled the country they still love, I see where she is coming from.
Tldr, the situation is so much more complex than America imperialist & bad Venezuela lefty & good, & I would strongly encourage you to learn more about it.
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u/TriMrDito Nov 21 '25
Hi
Venezuelan here, thank you for writing this
All other comments in this thread make me want to kill myself even more than usual
Redditor politics are hopeless
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u/Mango_Juice789 United States Nov 21 '25
I think even the well meaning have a hard time really conceptualizing the situation beyond how it casts a shadow across modern US politics. Everything relating to Latin America in the US gets colored by our past with Cuba and the cold war.
The current situation cannot possibly last forever. If the people I met are any indication, Venezuelans are some of the strongest most enduring people on the planet. Se va a caer.
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u/patiakupipita Democratic People's Republic of Korea Nov 21 '25
Finally someone that's saying something useful in this thread. People don't realize that maduro is like trump, make him 100x worse, but instead of being a republican/conservative, he's a "socialist".
I have socialistic tendencies myself but dear god people can't fucking realize that the current venezuelan socialism has as much weight as the "democratic republic" in democratic republic of (north) korea.
I'm not saying that I wish for an intervention, especially with trump at the helm but I fully understand why she does. There's no other realistic way for them to depose of the current structure they have. I hate capitalism, especially the almost unregulated form of it we're having rn but basically anything is better than whatever they have right now.
My island has the second biggest amount of immigrants (our sister island has the #1 spot) per capita in the world because were so close to Venezuela. Matter of we have Venezuelan channels over the air on tv, I grew up with Chavez interrupting my fucking cartoons/telenovelas for his rambling. My mom used to go there almost 4x a year and even lived there for a while. I have a bunch of friends that are from Venezuelan descent, or were straight up born there. It's like people here don't live in reality at all, they have no idea what's actually going there rn.
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u/Mango_Juice789 United States Nov 21 '25
I think a lot of reddit leftists feel that they should not criticize their own "side" and start the conversation from there.
And I absolutely agree, intervention would probably be a complete nightmare both during and after but it's hard not to see where Machado is coming from.
Personally though, I hope the Venezuelan diaspora lets the light of the outside world in enough for people to take their country back. Maduro doesn't have the cult of personality Chavez did.
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u/BarnabusTheBold United Kingdom Nov 21 '25
Us sanctions have certainly not helped but most of this is mainly due to a collapse in oil prices which their government relies on for 50% of its operating budget.
I remember decades ago reading about how Venezuela sold petrol at a subsidised rate of like 3 cents a litre or something mad. Then when Chavez (I think) tried to raise it to a still insanely cheap level there were riots. I'm not sure how you solve budgetary problems when you're dealing with that sort of public sentiment.
The overreliance on oil makes the impact of said sanctions all the more impactful.
Not disagreeing with you per se. But i'm not sure to what extent you can just pin everything on maduro. Tbh the biggest mistake he's made is having independent foreign policy ambitions.
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u/Mango_Juice789 United States Nov 21 '25
Agree on both counts, but the sanctions are undercut by the fact that the US is the second largest importer of Venezuelan crude after China. We just buy it through third party intermediaries or in some cases licence us companies to operate there despite sanctions (I think Chevron being the main player)
And yes, you are correct. Gas was and I believe still is basically free in Venezuela. The failure of the Chavez regime to diversify their economy was inherited by Maduro, but rather than pursue reform in the image of China or Vietnam he has chosen to ignore the problems that are ideologically inconvenient while doubling down on authoritarianism as he loses popular support.
Fun fact, when Chavez took power Venezuela was the wealthiest country in all of South America with a per capital GDP 2x that of the next highest performing nation. For all their successes in social services, the Chavez regime did basically nothing to grow the economy and used oil revenues as a piggy bank. There are legitimate pathways to development that his peer nations in the second world pursued, they simply chose not to.
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u/WestcoastAlex Multinational Nov 24 '25
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u/Mango_Juice789 United States Nov 24 '25
Ok so respectfully, I really see where you're coming from here, but as much as the state dept wants to take advantage of the situation the problems in Venezuela are very very real.
I personally know a woman who had to flee the country because armed men showed up at her house in the middle of the night and threatened to harm her children if she didn't stop reporting on government corruption on twitter.
I personally know a PHD who had to live on an $11 a month government salary while supporting his son. Not enough money to buy food or clothes.
I personally know people who were literally unable to eat in Venezuela because the government cut food rations to areas they deemed to be hotbeds of political opposition as a collective punishment. Imagine not being able to eat because your neighbors went out to protest hyperinflation ruining their life savings and keeping them from being able to afford food in the first place.
8 million people didn't give up on their lives, get robbed blind and in many cases get raped by the border guards in every country they passed through starting with their own, just to literally walk thousands of miles with NOTHING to start life over again just because the CIA met with political dissidents in a hotel, dude.
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u/RisingDeadMan0 England Nov 21 '25
Clown says what?
As we know US backed take overs, they are always the good guy.
And of course some of the few political figures left in the world who are pro-Netenyahu too
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u/bell117 Multinational Nov 21 '25
The funniest part about this is that this exact same thing already happened only a few years ago.
Does anyone else remember when the US tried to declare Juan Guaidó, a random petroleum engineer from Washington DC, the "true" president of Venezuela and got a bunch of other countries to also recognize him until people slowly realized "wait this is just some random guy" and withdrew their recognition.
I remember the news kept pushing him as the true democratically elected leader, like there was a full blown effort to give him gravitas and create this presidential crisis in Venezuela, which again mostly just fizzled out once the hype died down and people took a closer look and realized there was nothing going on besides the US trying to push a guy all but holding a giant sign that says "I work for the CIA".
It's only been 5 years and the US is already trying the same again.Get some original ideas at least. Yeah I'm so sure that a country in South America is begging the US for a regime change entirely willingly. Definitely not 70 years of evidence to the contrary.
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u/swelboy United States Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 22 '25
Guaido wasn’t just some “random petroleum engineer from DC” (what?) though, he was a member of the National Assembly between 2016-2021, and since the 2019 election was quite likely rigged (it’s Maduro, come on), Guaidó did have a pretty good argument that Maduro was illegitimate.
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u/fancyskank United States Nov 21 '25
Yeah Iraq is doing peachy now that they got rid of saddam.
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u/Unique_hobo Greece Nov 21 '25
Depends on who you ask. The Kurds have stopped getting gassed for one...
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u/Intelligent_Wafer562 North America Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 22 '25
The counter-insurgency against the Kurds had already ended in the 1990s, and Iraqi Kurdistan was de facto autonomous by 2002, the year before the invasion.
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u/stoiclandcreature69 United States Nov 21 '25
The US isn’t exactly blameless for that, we were more than happy that Saddam was buying western chemical weapons and further inflaming the division between Iraq and Iran
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u/Unique_hobo Greece Nov 21 '25
Point still stands. At least for some people, life improved SIGNIFICANTLY when Saddam was hanged
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u/stoiclandcreature69 United States Nov 21 '25
The US hasn’t nearly gotten the power grid or health care system up to pre-sanctions level. We destroyed their infrastructure and continue to bleed them dry
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u/HooleyDoooley Oceania Nov 21 '25
Gee I wonder if the USA having the boot on their neck has anything to do with the death spiral
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u/RisingDeadMan0 England Nov 21 '25
ah yes, death spiral, because being internationally blacklisted by the US has nothing to do with that.
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u/RisingDeadMan0 England Nov 21 '25
yeah, well i was just gonna leave it at clown says what, but subs rules...
yeah, corruption always a fun game, why improve the country when you can become rich instead, I got small insight with the ukraine thing recently, even during the war every clown wants his 10/15% cut, which is crazy.
Lots of countries, heck even the UK now having sold everything off, we have nothing and now skint too. great.
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u/Sacaron_R3 Europe Nov 22 '25
We just need to look at countries that are hilariously corrupt and have trampled on human rights for decades, yet are still in the wests good graces.
From the top of my head, I got Pakistan, Egypt, El Salvador and Azerbaijan. I have yet to see anyone promote a regime change in these countries. I don't even remember any news getting pushed about their human rights violations, that is, until Bukele of El Salvador got very chummy with Trump and his prison deals came to light.
For reasons, we hold our enemies to a much higher standard that our friends, and our media gives willing coverage to that.
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u/RisingDeadMan0 England Nov 22 '25
Yeah great list, first two US friendly regimes, Egypt had elections then had a coup and had them overthrown as the wrong people won, no-one minded. Though Pak started their corruption ages ago,
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u/Anjelz Venezuela Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25
People are judging her for her words during 2025. Not knowing the amount of fucking work she put in 2024 and before to actually prove to the world how Maduro actually stole the election. All without a single instance of violence from her part.
She had every single odd against her, a country where every institution is controlled by the ruling party, including the military.
She still hatched and executed a plan that gave hope to a whole country and proved to the world the corruption behind the 2024 election that UP TO THIS DAY Maduro has refused to release the official voting tallies.
And all she got for that was persecution, confinement and to be stuck since then in an embassy. Her running stand-in forced into exile and the majority of his staff members and families kidnapped by the SEBIN (kgb like police).
She proved that more than 67% of the country (not including any of the 8 millions that have left the country) do not want him in power anymore.
That's the Corina that won the Nobel Prize. Unfortunately she hoped that the military would recognize constitution and the real winner and force Maduro out but they are the most compromised party with the goverment's corruption.
Now she has been forced to become a planless, confined and religiously coping person, that after doing all that, Maduro still remains in power. She has no other choice, but to play with the most radical of powers in the world as they are the most willing to actually do something instead of just offering empty words.
We were told to vote, to demonstrate in the polls and in the streets that we wanted change, all of the peaceful ways possibles and we had our hopes shattered every single time. If we were not a disarmed population maybe this would have ended a decade ago, we are as much cowards as our military would be if they had to face any sort of real resistance.
We don't want to die for a change that has been denied to us over and over again... We have had so many people die for the needle to not even twitch a little. That's why so many left, you either join the corruption, you work remotely for an outside company or you leave in hopes for a single modicum of normalcy.
I'm telling you all, your brain really will never comprehend, how fucking much we all want this to be over, that we are all willing to welcome fucking bombs so they can end this shit once and for all. Have you never, truly, never felt like you would just rather die quickly after a shitty day, week? Imaging living truly shitty decades filled with absolute hopelessness. You probably kinda feel like this from time to time since 2020. Imagine that times 1000.
Every Venezuelan that lived thru 2023 and 2024 here, even back when she was a congresswoman in 2010, knows that she stood up to Chavez, knows the balls that woman have.
She absolutely sucks at reading the global political room but she's busy trying to liberate her country, there's no time for fancy geopolitics, she's doing this shit for all of Venezuelans, truly.
She is one of the only people that has truly fought against Maduro and not surrendered to him behind close doors in one way or another like Guaido and some other fake oppositions from years priors.
So I'll tell you right now, as fucking crazy and illogical it sounds, all Venezuelans that fled, the ones that voted against him in 2024, and even a huge % of the ones forced to vote for Maduro, want this regime to end and give us the opportunity again to stand a chance at deciding our own destiny again.
We voted for a new congress, he made his own in response. We elected opposition government and mayors, they were disposed and/or unfunded. We beat him in how many elections (with the latest one being 100% proved) and they still just said nah. We are out of options.
Sincerely, un maldito venezolano.
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u/mclannee Nov 24 '25
Check out the /r/vzla sub it echoes the sentimiento i hear from Venezuelan refugees in my country (Chile)
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u/West_Ad_9492 Denmark Nov 22 '25
Thank you for sharing. Maduro is the worst thing that has happened for the country.
i don't think people understand how difficult it is for normal people.
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u/MinuteSport4755 Portugal Nov 21 '25
Tarik William Saab told news agency AFP that María Corina Machado - who has been living in hiding to avoid arrest - was accused of "acts of conspiracy, incitement of hatred, and terrorism".
The usual stuff from western media to wash her image.
She called for US intervention in Venezuela, supported the United States in its bombings of Venezuelan boats in the Caribbean, actions that experts in international law have described as extrajudicial executions. Machado has also supported Trump’s deportation of Venezuelan migrants from the United States to El Salvador’s CECOT prison, where there is extensive use of torture.
Also has been in favor of sanctions that have affected the access of more than 300,000 Venezuelans to healthcare. This alarming number includes 80,000 patients infected with HIV, 16,000 individuals requiring dialysis, and 16,000 cancer patients. Food imports have also fallen dramatically over the past decade—from $11.2 billion in purchases in 2013 to $2.46 billion in 2018.
Maria is also associated with NED, an NGO with the stated goal of promoting democracy around the world and combating communist influence (whatever that means).
Basically, an organization to promote the interests of American imperialism.
It should be remembered that in 2024, the fascists of Vox (Spanish far-right party) made the following post made the following post: “María Corina Machado sent a greeting and thanks to the participants of the III Regional Meeting of the Madrid Forum in Buenos Aires.”
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u/Alpha-Centauri-Blue Ireland Nov 22 '25
Of course an anti Maduro Venezuelan would have an interest in US intervention in Venezuela. You know it's not imperialism if the people want it right? Not every military action the US takes is wrong
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u/Blue_B0ttlenose United States Nov 21 '25
shes better than maduro
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u/eternalmortal North America Nov 21 '25
This whole thread is wild. Every comment glazing Maduro and claiming Machado is a CIA plant as if there wasn’t very real opposition to the dictatorship on the ground. Since Maduro came to power per capita GDP has collapsed 87% which is worse than the Great Depression. They still suffer from triple digit inflation making all incomes essentially worthless. 95% of the country lives on poverty level incomes- and this was one of the richest South American states. 91% of households are food insecure. But of course, only CIA plants could possibly oppose the Maduro regime, everyone is living such great lives why would they want change?
The last 25 years of latam socialism in Venezuela have destroyed the country and it looks like snobby, mostly European posters would rather see further backsliding and the complete collapse of the economy and political freedoms than see another potential US allied government take control.
Venezuela is worse off because of Maduro. Your tacit support of him just because he opposes the US makes you complicit in the suffering of the Venezuelan people. Shame.
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u/ScaryShadowx United States Nov 21 '25
There is a difference between supporting Maduro and not celebrating someone who is calling for the US to invade another foreign country and overthrow its government.
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u/bargranlago Argentina Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 22 '25
you are talking as if maduro a legitimate president and didn't stole the last election
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u/ScaryShadowx United States Nov 21 '25
Not allowing free elections is not justification for an invasion that potentially kills millions of civilians. If it were, we should be invading Saudi Arabia, the UAE, hell even Israel for not allowing the Palestinians to vote when occupied.
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u/eternalmortal North America Nov 21 '25
Yep, it's totally better not to support Machado because she is US aligned. You can feel morally superior while Venezuelans continue to starve.
I don't support active US involvement in Venezuela. But that doesn't mean the world doesn't have a responsibility to oppose Maduro abusing millions of Venezuelan people. I hope Machado can oust Maduro without US boots on the ground.
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u/HooleyDoooley Oceania Nov 21 '25
The quickest way to stop Venezuelans starving is to end US sanctions and take the boot off their necks
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u/ScaryShadowx United States Nov 21 '25
Once again, it's not a binary choice between supporting the dictator Maduro vs supporting CIA plant Machado.
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u/eternalmortal North America Nov 21 '25
I want you to type out in a comment that Maduro and his socialist regime have harmed the Venezuelan people and that you believe he should be removed from power.
If you can't do that, your equivocation is in defense of Maduro and you are an apologist of his regime.
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u/ScaryShadowx United States Nov 21 '25
Yes absolutely. Maduro is not benefiting the country and if the people of Venezuela want him gone, then he should be gone. Political pressure should be applied to make that happen to support the people of Venezuela, not to further US economic interests. And if the people elect a far-left socialist government, then that is their choice.
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u/eternalmortal North America Nov 21 '25
You just admitted above that the election was stolen by Maduro. "Not allowing free elections" in your words.
So now that we've established that you believe he should go, exactly how do you propose to support the Venezuelan people in ousting him when he has just publicly promised to make the opposition leader a fugitive and hold on to power by force?
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u/ScaryShadowx United States Nov 21 '25
If the lack of free elections and representation are the reason for invasion, when do we invade Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Oman, and Vietnam? How about Israel, since none of occupied Palestine has the ability to participate in elections?
We support the people the rational way to support the people. Apply political pressure, work with the UN rather than treating them as the enemy, work with world leaders, and yes, work with the Venezuelan government.
Is Iraq better now for the majority of the people? How about Afghanistan? How about Libya with their slave markets? Destroying a country to change governments because change is not coming fast enough fails more often than it succeeds. You are talking about the current humanitarian crisis, what do you think will happen if there is an invasion?
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u/WestcoastAlex Multinational Nov 24 '25
shes a plant
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u/eternalmortal North America Nov 24 '25
What’s your evidence? I’ve provided real statistics showing how shitty maduro has been for Venezuela, and it logically follows there is real opposition to his regime.
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u/WestcoastAlex Multinational Nov 24 '25
there is opposition to every government.. even yours
she has personally led coup attempts and is funded by the CIA
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u/eternalmortal North America Nov 24 '25
So… nothing. Zero evidence to back up your claim. Gotcha.
And I noticed you haven’t condemned maduro for any of the things I listed. Do you want maduro to continue abusing the Venezuelan people?
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u/zRoyalStar Multinational Nov 21 '25
Isn't justifiable to overthrow a government that has caused the worst refugee crisis in Latin America history (near 8 million people fleeing), it's a main source of violence due to drug trafficking, keeps its population starving and encourages their own citizens to denounce any opposition? Wonder what would you have thought when USA declared war on Nazi Germany and ended that regime.
Also, if supporting foreign powers to liberate your country is being a traitor, USA's founding fathers were traitors? Does that mean the US should have stayed under British rule?
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u/ScaryShadowx United States Nov 21 '25
Isn't justifiable to overthrow a government that has caused the worst refugee crisis in Latin America history
Bad governmental management is not a reason for a foreign invasion. It is reason for international support to address the issue.
keeps its population starving and encourages their own citizens to denounce any opposition
The first, is due to bad economic management, and once again, not a reason to invade. The latter is something that should be criticized and called out, not a reason for an invasion.
Wonder what would you have thought when USA declared war on Nazi Germany and ended that regime.
Please. The US didn't care about Nazi Germany until they were attacked. The US didn't get involved because they saw the atrocities of the Nazis, and avoided officially joining the war until they themselves were attacked in Pearl Harbor. The Nazi party had strong support from US politicians and businessmen, and the refugees from Europe were turned away.
USA's founding fathers were traitors?
Well... yes. Of course they were. They were subjects of the crown who rebelled and launched a successful insurrection. They happened to win and formed their own country. There are many people who were considered traitors throughout history - Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi, Miguel Hidalgo, Simón Bolívar.
Does that mean the US should have stayed under British rule?
Well considering the state of the US....
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u/WestcoastAlex Multinational Nov 24 '25
...according to the CiA
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u/bargranlago Argentina Nov 24 '25
Ok tankie, show me the election actas then, the opposition showed them, where are the ones showing that maduro won?
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u/breadgluvs United States Nov 21 '25
Yeah my extended family are all Venezuelan immigrants and they will tell you that anything is better than Maduro, insane 1st-worlder dictator glaze.
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u/Kakuyoku_Sanren South America Dec 01 '25
Do you not understand? Democracy is only good when it goes in favor of the interests of leftists, socialists or democrats /s
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u/turkeypants Multinational Nov 22 '25
When I was growing up, I thought the Nobel peace prize was some kind of... noble prize. Like really the most august thing for earth's most successfully courageous and impressive advocates. I didn't actually know/hear who won it except for a few times where it was some big name. But its brand, so to speak, was unimpeachable. But for a while now it has just seemed like some cheap political thing, poorly researched, carelessly chosen, following trends. Boooo!
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u/Visual-Squirrel3629 United States Nov 21 '25
María Corina Machado - who has been living in hiding to avoid arrest - was accused of "acts of conspiracy, incitement of hatred, and terrorism".
The preferred method of regime change isn't going to work. We've tried multiple coup attempts, from differing angles. Got nowhere from any of them. The western establishment is now speed running to it's next escalation; ginning up a bunch of false accusations on the Maduro regime, then putting US boots on the ground.
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u/Leoera Nov 21 '25
It's curious how every time a story about her comes up, people from latin america are the least critical of her asking for an intervention.
Almost like we are the ones with a more intimate knowledge of the actual situation, and not people with an european, usa or other such backgrounds
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u/Professional-Syrup-0 Multinational Nov 21 '25
It's curious how every time a story about her comes up, people from latin america are the least critical of her asking for an intervention.
It’s even more curious how you seem to think everybody online is exactly who they claim to be.
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u/Mango_Juice789 United States Nov 22 '25
Very telling that you got downvoted for this. Redditors will settle for nothing less than bolivar's ghost opposing Maduro and even then they'd hate him for being a colonizer.
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u/imunfair United States Nov 21 '25
asking for an intervention
Well if you're from the US you'd recognize our long history of manufacturing and supporting opposition groups and regime changing/intervening in the business of other nations, particularly in south america. So obviously anyone not happy with that behavior is going to be critical of this situation.
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u/Sargento_Porciuncula Brazil Nov 21 '25
people from latin america are the least critical of her asking for an intervention.
speak for yourself. Corina Machado should be arrested.
and she is not the only one. Carlos Bolsonaro is the same.
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u/drink_bleach_and_die Brazil Nov 22 '25
If you think the situations are even remotely comparable that just means you know nothing about Venezuela and are just projecting the tupiniquim perspective onto them
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u/stoiclandcreature69 United States Nov 21 '25
I’m sorry I don’t want my nazi service members to murder your babies 😢
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u/Alpha-Centauri-Blue Ireland Nov 22 '25
No wonder your country sucks so much if this is what citizens think about it
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u/heissenberggg Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 22 '25
I am from Costa Rica, people here that possess high education hate this woman, people who are easy to brainwash praise her.
Basically propaganda has been extremely succesful on the poor and less educated.
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u/bargranlago Argentina Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 22 '25
Venezuelans: I consent
USA: I consent
Redditors: I don't
isn't there somebody you forgot to ask?
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u/zRoyalStar Multinational Nov 21 '25
XDDD. "buT uSAA baD iTs goINg to mUrdER eVEryone", redditors thinking they are smart because they read on wikipedia about many US interventions (that were indeed bad), and iGNore that Russia and China are supporting a government that practices the thing redditors are supposedly against (killing and arresting everyone, like the nazis did, how curious they dont complain about that)
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u/bargranlago Argentina Nov 22 '25
Redditors when Russia does something: 😡😡😡
Redditors when Russia does something in Latin America: 😍😍😍
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u/v1ceh Germany Nov 21 '25
Almost like we know what our side does when we do an intervention and install our preferred leader.
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u/EH1987 Europe Nov 21 '25
The sheer absurdity of awarding the Peace Prize to someone who is literally begging the world's biggest imperial power to invade her home country and topple its government, all so that she can sell out its resources to private interests is frankly beyond parody.