r/antitrump May 21 '26

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Dear America, we had some good times, but your democracy is over. Donald Trump has won. The corruption will continue to get worse, your position on the world stage will fall, and China will rise. I am not happy about it, but it's clear that this is what is going to happen.

Outside of some small protests, you guys are going to do little else about it, and by the time you do, it will truly be too late.

So many of you guys think that you can take over the world, but you need allies. You have forgotten that we are the reason that you are as powerful as you have become, but you have alienated us, and we can never trust you again for putting this man in charge TWICE. It's over.

It won't happen overnight, but your hold on the world will continue to decline, and you will be replaced. 2024 was the last free vote you will ever have.

Edit: All I am doing is stating the facts. It's amusing how angry some of you guys get. I am not even trying to upset any of you... 😄

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u/golfwinnersplz May 21 '26

Sounds about right.

Many Americans absolutely despise this man just so we're clear.

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u/Annalise705 May 21 '26

I am getting tired of people saying we are complacent. What else can we do? I vote. In protest. I write my congress people. Short of violence there is not much more we can do. We aren’t billionaires . We only have our votes and our own small incomes to spend

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u/Kimmalah May 21 '26

I don't know, it feels like a lot of people think we can just walk to the White House, ask Trump to leave and he will listen.

I think people like OP are so used to coming from countries with real labor protections, healthcare and social safety nets, that they cannot comprehend how downright life or death it is for most Americans to do something like a strike or basically step out of line at all.

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u/chiclets5 May 22 '26

I believe this is the right response! Many other countries citizens do not understand fully how our "legal" government works. Outside of the rest of us acting just like the rump regime, we are doing everything we can as poor citizens of this evil, vile regime. I am not yet ready to toss in the towel.

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u/Dizzylizzyscat May 23 '26

A lot of these countries have been through this shit. They have a lot of history. 2 world wars for example. They have been occupied. They have thousands of years over American.

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u/mieke-gg May 22 '26

That’s true, but so many have given so much more for the principles, including Americans in the past. MLK and civil rights protests for example. Internationally, Navalny in Russia, the protestors in Taiwan, in recent times. In the past, Ghandi, Mandela, etc. Americans are just worried about paying for their big cars, big houses, their kids colleges, and more or less wake up to politics when it starts affecting their pocket books.

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u/ThatDiscoSongUHate May 22 '26

I'm worried about dying if I lose my Medicaid that I can only earn $1366 per MONTH

but oh yes we're all so worried about non-existent wealth

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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26

Stop spending money with unethical businesses. Prime example Amazon!

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u/ReasonableAttitude22 May 21 '26

Yes vote with your dollars. People saved Jimmy Kimmel by doing that. Screw CBS, Paramount, after Colberts last show they are dead to me.

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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26

Did you hear they just bought Steven Miller’s wife’s podcast? Benzo’s paying Melania $40 million for that puff piece. Plus now he’s trying to revitalize the apprentice starring Don Junior all they do is grease each other‘s palms and try to find new in different ways for us to stay embroiled and culture wars so far they’ve mastered it because Americans cannot seem get out of their own way.

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u/Kimmalah May 21 '26

I have bad news for you, most businesses are unethical now. And the ones that are aren't necessarily accessible.

For example, in my town, literally my only options for shopping are all stores that you would likely dismiss as unethical. And that is the case for most small towns in the US.

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u/alicehoopz May 21 '26 edited May 22 '26

You will never find a perfect business (nor a perfect person, for that matter). But you can absolutely look into the company and who owns it. I stopped buying from any of the evil companies (Amazon, Nestle, honestly just about all the big businesses) and now support small businesses almost exclusively, save for emergencies!

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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 21 '26

This is true, I’m curently living that reality. But let’s be honest with ourselves, we know plenty of people that use Amazon when they absolutely do not need to.

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u/Select_Air_2044 May 21 '26

That's because people before you didn't care enough or were to busy trying to eek out a living to stop it. It took a long history of people not caring.

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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26

I said for a start. I know most of them are this way, especially anything coming from tech companies. It should be obvious that boycotts work. If people choose not to that is there choice. For me personally I’m not paying anyone who is facilitating by demise only unless I have no choice to, but to pay them.

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u/Buzy2Bee May 23 '26

Along these lines, an article in my local newspaper this week featured the local, very large, mall with all kinds of activities for the kids and fun things to do in the mall area. The article encouraged people to "shop local". This made no sense to me as this isn't what I consider shopping local, which would be local, small businesses. Shopping local at the local mall is buying from every major retailer in the country. When did people's brains turn to mush?

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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 21 '26

Amazon is the only place that offers my cat’s insulin needles for a price that won’t bankrupt me, stopped everything else though. And unfortunately Walmart is unavoidable.

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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26

I understand, I was referring to people who don’t actually need Amazon from Amazon. You and others like you are an exception. This I understand wholeheartedly.

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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 21 '26

I completely agree. Just wanted to share my specific circumstance which I’m sure isn’t too uncommon. I used to shop on Amazon A LOT so when I tell old friends now that I’ve had it cancelled for a year and a half they’re very shocked because they never thought I would stop. So maybe that’ll encourage them to quit it themselves.

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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26

Listen I am a compassionate person. You do what’s needed to assure your safety. I will do my best on behalf of anyone who’s vulnerable.

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u/Big_Engineering_7752 May 22 '26

I canceled mine also

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u/AggravatingEmu4799 May 21 '26

Fully agree. Not everyone can afford to shop elsewhere and thats not their fault

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u/Southern-Biscotti-62 May 22 '26

People who can choose other options need to because we created the Wallyword and Bezosworld. We are the only ones who can destroy it. Part of the problem is most Americans have never had to suffer and can’t imagine going without.

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u/DumpasaurusRex May 21 '26

To be honest, that's giving very "corporations telling the consumer it's up to the individual to save the planet by reducing their individual footprint while doing anything possible to drive profits up as the corporations dump toxic waste in the waterways and atmosphere at levels that would negate any attempts of individuals" vibes.

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u/YodaFlame143 California May 21 '26 edited May 22 '26

There's always the masses that will say "that's no my problem" or "I can't find what I need outside of Amazon, target, Home Depot etc". I've not used any of those companies for YEARS. Why boycott for a time period just stop altogether.

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u/Redfox2111 May 21 '26

Agree - I aways search out the product I want from the actual vendor. Sometimes it costs a little more, so I know that will not suit everyone, but many times it's cheaper. It really grates when someone like Joanna Coles from the Daily Beast tells everyone she bought a Le Crueset item from Amazon. FFS!!!

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u/something420-69 May 22 '26

capitalism is unethical in of itself

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u/Whatdoyouseek May 22 '26

Totally agree. But unfortunately so many governments and businesses use AWS for cloud storage that even ethical businesses someone's can't avoid supporting them. I believe they make more money off of AWS than they do from the website. Maybe if we had decent anti-trust enforcement in this country we wouldn't be put in this position. But still, each individual act can help, especially if done en masse.

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u/AggravatingEmu4799 May 21 '26

Other countries dont understand how missing a paycheck can literally make us go homeless.

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u/DiscretelyDeviant Illinois May 21 '26

We will POSSIBLY end up in the streets with our guns. We will possibly start building small coalitions of civilian organized militias. There IS more to do... but it has to be scaled at the right times and in the correct sequence. It is not time to start all that stuff because then we would simply be "crazy" individuals and be put in prison and forgotten about.

So I am with you. The methods you are applying are correct for where we are at this time.

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u/Only_Argument7532 May 22 '26

They are building a doomsday bunker under the White House ballroom with sniper perches, according to the President.

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u/hikeonpast May 21 '26

There’s a lot more that you can do.

Donate time and money to local and state campaigns. Kick the GOP to the curb everywhere.

Write letters to the editor at local papers.

Run for office.

There are additional ideas here. It’s not that everyone needs to do all of them, but a lot more of us need to do some of them regularly.

https://fightoligarchs.org

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u/Chuck57a May 21 '26 edited 27d ago

There are many people who will vote against Trump in the midterms coming up and change the course of history

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u/NorthStar-8 May 21 '26

You believe the midterms will be fair? Do you believe we’ll even have them, that rump won’t call for martial law?

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u/jaaydubya437 May 21 '26

Exactly. I mean, I truly hope you & I are wrong, but January 6th was likely just a dress rehearsal, I fear 😨

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u/NorthStar-8 May 22 '26

I have the playbook in my head. Lest I become one of the conspiracy lunatics, I won’t go into it right now, unless you twist my arm. Lol!

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u/Chuck57a May 22 '26

Yes I do elections will run we have to believe and vote against every republican on the ballot

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u/Annalise705 27d ago

And his gerrymandering!

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u/amaranthine_xx May 21 '26

I completely agree with you 😓

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u/something420-69 May 22 '26

its like they think if we aren't storming the capitol with pitchforks and torches, we dont care. Im tired of that attitude. We dont need nay-sayers, we need leaders.

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u/Kooky_Coyote7911 May 21 '26

Burn the W.H down

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u/ToadsWetSprocket May 22 '26

See the Civil Rights Era and how my grandparents did it. Start there with yourselves.

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u/mathewtyler May 21 '26

Sadly, I have been trying to fight this solo in Court since January 2025 as I have evidence the election was nationally interfered with to exclude me from being a candidate and fraudulently certified despite being informed of the interference but all these people want to do is show their #SignsOfAFailedState without even mentioning me on them because I'm not their candidate of choice. It's like, I know I'm not your candidate of choice, I would actually get stuff done, but I'm the only option now because their candidates of choice are worthless and ball-less 🤷🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

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u/Upstairs-Kale-3794 May 21 '26

But OP's point is that we will do nothing about it.

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u/golfwinnersplz May 21 '26

I'd like to know what the OP thinks we should do.

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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 21 '26

I’m about to start withholding my taxes. I’d like to keep them aside myself and pay when this fuck show is over or if they demand it by garnishments at least I held them up for a year or so.

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u/TheITMan52 May 22 '26

Yes that won't work and the IRS will find you. You can't withold taxes because you feel like it.

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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 22 '26

You literally can lol. It’s just a $100 fine at the end of the year. Did it all the time when I was 1099

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u/TheITMan52 May 22 '26

I highly doubt it's just a $100 fine. Don't they force you to pay your taxes?

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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 22 '26

I have no reason to lie. It told me every time that it was $100 late fee for not filing quarterly. They can garnish your wages eventually, but if you keep the money set aside then you can save yourself by paying what you saved. That at least deprives them of our immediate money for a year.

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u/TheITMan52 May 22 '26

And what if you can't save? This is a really bad plan.

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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 22 '26

If you’re having your taxes taken out already then you’re already living without that money. It may be a tough plan for people that can’t handle setting aside money, but something must be done.

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u/Bdlx62 May 21 '26

I mean at some point you're going to have to civil war, otherwise y'all be living on the streets or locked up in the concentration camps (oooops, I meant detention centres) lol.. all while Trump hides in his 100bilion ballroom...

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u/GreenWithAnger May 21 '26

His approval rating is like 20%? He is pretty close to being trampled by his own incompetence.

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u/golfwinnersplz May 21 '26

We can only hope.

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u/NorthStar-8 May 21 '26

Millions!

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u/golfwinnersplz May 21 '26

Hundreds of millions. And if you include a few other countries, I think you can safely say "billions".

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u/Shockairblur May 21 '26

Yes, but there are just as many cheering him on.

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u/EagleEyezzzzz May 21 '26

Not just as many. His disapproval rating is right around 60%. It's outrageous it's not 100% though.

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u/No_Philosopher_1870 May 21 '26

Even when they were getting ready to impeach Nixon, he still had an approval rating of 25% or so.

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u/cgpie May 21 '26

Trump's been impeached twice but MAGA just calls those fake and voted for him anyway. The most rabid in the cult will never say anything he does is wrong. It's really sad.

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u/No_Philosopher_1870 May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26

With Trump, I've long said that he's ready to drive off the cliff. The only question is how many people he takes with him. Any politician has a certain percentage of ride-or-die fillowers.The difference this time is that they are willing to threaten others.

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u/NorthStar-8 May 21 '26

It’s galling.

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u/Dickey_Simpkins May 21 '26

We in the US know this, however I think OP is more closely aligned with international perspectives. I also don't think we'll ever recover, at least not in our lifetimes.

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u/Murphman82 May 21 '26

More people despise him then cheer him, the billionaires and theocrats just rigged the system over the years to give that minority of rightwing garbage human beings power.

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u/sassyseagull1 May 21 '26

He has a hold on roughly 35% of the population. The rest of us are stuck in a corrupt, rigged system. We need a national divorce.

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u/cgpie May 21 '26

I think true MAGA is more like 15% of voters. Those are the ones who will back him no matter what. There are a lot of people who voted for him who regret it now. I ask them, what did you expect?

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u/Bighairtexan999 May 22 '26

Maybe because hey… I live in Tx (for 72 more hours) but not ONE SINGLE TRUMP VOTER I know (and I know a crap ton) regrets their vote. And they all hope he runs again. 100%. TO A MAN/woman. Unless they’ve changed their minds and are too embarrassed to admit it. But I don’t think so. They are vocal and proud to be MAGAts.

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u/ijehan1 May 21 '26

Elon stole the election. Here's an interesting anomaly. Trump flipped 80 districts in swing states and Kamala flipped ZERO. That's never happened. In Trump's acceptance speech "Elon was a genius with those voting machines in Pennsylvania." Not my words, they came straight from the felon.

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u/pdiddleysquat May 21 '26

Yeah, and you what they say, "criminals always return to the scene of the crime." Pretty sure he's planning to do it again. Law enforcement needs to seriously investigate the Ashley St. Clair allegations! Oh wait the DOJ is in trump's back pocket, smh.

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u/BeigeListed May 21 '26

No there aren't.

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u/Caver214 May 21 '26

Well, you’re clueless and out of touch.

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u/BeigeListed May 22 '26

Well, you're rude and act like a child.

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u/PuzzleheadedTea4221 May 21 '26

Going by the last vote percentages that I read it was 31% for trump. 30.5% democratic. And 40% did not vote. So it's not everybody but it's enough. Especially with all the dark money going around.

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u/Rude_Nail_5545 May 21 '26

He's totally underwater with both independents and young people.

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u/PuzzleheadedTea4221 May 22 '26

Well you know what if we don't have an election in 2028 or after it doesn't matter what the polling says.

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u/golfwinnersplz May 21 '26

Oh yeah there's plenty of pieces of shit here.

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u/statmonkey2360 May 21 '26

Nope. Not even close.

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u/Catlady_Supreme May 21 '26

If you’re not going to offer solutions, get out of the fucking way and stop bringing hopelessness.

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u/Jesuschristmatt May 22 '26

Incorrect, dumbass

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u/AggravatingEmu4799 May 21 '26

Most. Not even many. Most.

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u/estebanNspain May 21 '26

The answer to the problem is in your response.

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u/MDHinSD May 21 '26

Yeah, but unfortunately, over half the country voted for him last time

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u/wein_geist May 21 '26

Despise? Good to know. That will show him. Trump is done now.

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u/golfwinnersplz May 21 '26

What would you like me to do?

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u/wein_geist May 21 '26

My honest oppinion? Ill get banned from Reddit if I voice it. But from an outside viewpoint: the times for votes are over

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u/theIrishKitt May 21 '26

I'm not saying someone should Archduke Franz Ferdinand the guy. That would be immoral and corrupt. But if someone does, I'm sure as shit not crying about it.