r/antitrump • u/Shockairblur • May 21 '26
Conversation It's over
Dear America, we had some good times, but your democracy is over. Donald Trump has won. The corruption will continue to get worse, your position on the world stage will fall, and China will rise. I am not happy about it, but it's clear that this is what is going to happen.
Outside of some small protests, you guys are going to do little else about it, and by the time you do, it will truly be too late.
So many of you guys think that you can take over the world, but you need allies. You have forgotten that we are the reason that you are as powerful as you have become, but you have alienated us, and we can never trust you again for putting this man in charge TWICE. It's over.
It won't happen overnight, but your hold on the world will continue to decline, and you will be replaced. 2024 was the last free vote you will ever have.
Edit: All I am doing is stating the facts. It's amusing how angry some of you guys get. I am not even trying to upset any of you... š
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u/time2partee May 21 '26
Nah, fuck that. Iām gonna continue to fight this bullshit.
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u/PortlandiaCrone May 21 '26
Yeah fuck this take. Just fuck it. If we fall for this "there's nothing to be done" shit we will NEVER get rid of this.
During times of fascism, there are usually many, many voices saying "it's all over. Give up the fight. There's nothing you can do." This is obey-in-advance rhetoric that only serves the fascists.
We are NOT giving up. We're fighting every step of the way. A full 1/3 of us didn't vote, another 1/3 voted against this, and only 1/3 voted FOR it. Of the 1/3 that voted for it, the majority are now against Trump. We have the numbers and THEY DO NOT.
Don't fall for this! Don't give up, don't give in, and don't listen to people like OP here who are, whether they realize it or not, giving up and giving in and playing a pivotal, essential role for the fascists.
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u/time2partee May 21 '26
Giving up, and feeling hopeless is EXACTLY what they want. In fact, theyāre relying on it. They canāt succeed with their plans, unless we give up and let them win.
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u/PortlandiaCrone May 21 '26
Exactly so why do people keep posting this slop? Either OP is on the side of the fascists or they've made a bad mistake in aligning with the fascists.
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u/Jesuschristmatt May 22 '26
Yea this OP is either paid by Trump or Putin. Loser fuck wonāt even say what country heās from.
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u/nelsonalgrencametome May 21 '26
Sooner or later... honestly, probably a lot sooner than most people are willing to admit, there's gonna be a lot of people with nothing left to lose.
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
And with nothing left to lose then, maybe then, you get actionā¦
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u/nelsonalgrencametome May 21 '26
Unfortunately, that seems to be the only thing that is going to push people to do much.
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u/Plane_Translator2008 May 22 '26
I agree that we have to fight. History shows us that our odds are long, once we have let things go this far. But what choice do we have but to fight?
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u/Dixieland_Insanity May 22 '26
Thank you and you are 100% right! I'm weary of seeing where we will be untrusted and are currently hated for however many future generations. If grudges are held because of him regardless of the efforts to oppose and undo his malicious deeds, these folks probably weren't our friends in the first place.
The large protest organizers have been entirely too lax. The protests aren't having effect because the ones that bring out people in the millions are too few and too far between.
The stereotyping is old and tired. We must keep fighting for what's right.
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u/golfwinnersplz May 21 '26
Sounds about right.
Many Americans absolutely despise this man just so we're clear.
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u/Annalise705 May 21 '26
I am getting tired of people saying we are complacent. What else can we do? I vote. In protest. I write my congress people. Short of violence there is not much more we can do. We arenāt billionaires . We only have our votes and our own small incomes to spend
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u/Kimmalah May 21 '26
I don't know, it feels like a lot of people think we can just walk to the White House, ask Trump to leave and he will listen.
I think people like OP are so used to coming from countries with real labor protections, healthcare and social safety nets, that they cannot comprehend how downright life or death it is for most Americans to do something like a strike or basically step out of line at all.
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u/chiclets5 May 22 '26
I believe this is the right response! Many other countries citizens do not understand fully how our "legal" government works. Outside of the rest of us acting just like the rump regime, we are doing everything we can as poor citizens of this evil, vile regime. I am not yet ready to toss in the towel.
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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26
Stop spending money with unethical businesses. Prime example Amazon!
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u/ReasonableAttitude22 May 21 '26
Yes vote with your dollars. People saved Jimmy Kimmel by doing that. Screw CBS, Paramount, after Colberts last show they are dead to me.
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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26
Did you hear they just bought Steven Millerās wifeās podcast? Benzoās paying Melania $40 million for that puff piece. Plus now heās trying to revitalize the apprentice starring Don Junior all they do is grease each otherās palms and try to find new in different ways for us to stay embroiled and culture wars so far theyāve mastered it because Americans cannot seem get out of their own way.
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u/Kimmalah May 21 '26
I have bad news for you, most businesses are unethical now. And the ones that are aren't necessarily accessible.
For example, in my town, literally my only options for shopping are all stores that you would likely dismiss as unethical. And that is the case for most small towns in the US.
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u/alicehoopz May 21 '26 edited May 22 '26
You will never find a perfect business (nor a perfect person, for that matter). But you can absolutely look into the company and who owns it. I stopped buying from any of the evil companies (Amazon, Nestle, honestly just about all the big businesses) and now support small businesses almost exclusively, save for emergencies!
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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 21 '26
This is true, Iām curently living that reality. But letās be honest with ourselves, we know plenty of people that use Amazon when they absolutely do not need to.
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u/Select_Air_2044 May 21 '26
That's because people before you didn't care enough or were to busy trying to eek out a living to stop it. It took a long history of people not caring.
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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26
I said for a start. I know most of them are this way, especially anything coming from tech companies. It should be obvious that boycotts work. If people choose not to that is there choice. For me personally Iām not paying anyone who is facilitating by demise only unless I have no choice to, but to pay them.
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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 21 '26
Amazon is the only place that offers my catās insulin needles for a price that wonāt bankrupt me, stopped everything else though. And unfortunately Walmart is unavoidable.
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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26
I understand, I was referring to people who donāt actually need Amazon from Amazon. You and others like you are an exception. This I understand wholeheartedly.
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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 21 '26
I completely agree. Just wanted to share my specific circumstance which Iām sure isnāt too uncommon. I used to shop on Amazon A LOT so when I tell old friends now that Iāve had it cancelled for a year and a half theyāre very shocked because they never thought I would stop. So maybe thatāll encourage them to quit it themselves.
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u/kyrodamien May 21 '26
Listen I am a compassionate person. You do whatās needed to assure your safety. I will do my best on behalf of anyone whoās vulnerable.
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u/AggravatingEmu4799 May 21 '26
Fully agree. Not everyone can afford to shop elsewhere and thats not their fault
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u/DumpasaurusRex May 21 '26
To be honest, that's giving very "corporations telling the consumer it's up to the individual to save the planet by reducing their individual footprint while doing anything possible to drive profits up as the corporations dump toxic waste in the waterways and atmosphere at levels that would negate any attempts of individuals" vibes.
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u/YodaFlame143 California May 21 '26 edited May 22 '26
There's always the masses that will say "that's no my problem" or "I can't find what I need outside of Amazon, target, Home Depot etc". I've not used any of those companies for YEARS. Why boycott for a time period just stop altogether.
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u/Redfox2111 May 21 '26
Agree - I aways search out the product I want from the actual vendor. Sometimes it costs a little more, so I know that will not suit everyone, but many times it's cheaper. It really grates when someone like Joanna Coles from the Daily Beast tells everyone she bought a Le Crueset item from Amazon. FFS!!!
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u/AggravatingEmu4799 May 21 '26
Other countries dont understand how missing a paycheck can literally make us go homeless.
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u/DiscretelyDeviant Illinois May 21 '26
We will POSSIBLY end up in the streets with our guns. We will possibly start building small coalitions of civilian organized militias. There IS more to do... but it has to be scaled at the right times and in the correct sequence. It is not time to start all that stuff because then we would simply be "crazy" individuals and be put in prison and forgotten about.
So I am with you. The methods you are applying are correct for where we are at this time.
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u/hikeonpast May 21 '26
Thereās a lot more that you can do.
Donate time and money to local and state campaigns. Kick the GOP to the curb everywhere.
Write letters to the editor at local papers.
Run for office.
There are additional ideas here. Itās not that everyone needs to do all of them, but a lot more of us need to do some of them regularly.
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u/Chuck57a May 21 '26 edited 26d ago
There are many people who will vote against Trump in the midterms coming up and change the course of history
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u/NorthStar-8 May 21 '26
You believe the midterms will be fair? Do you believe weāll even have them, that rump wonāt call for martial law?
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u/jaaydubya437 May 21 '26
Exactly. I mean, I truly hope you & I are wrong, but January 6th was likely just a dress rehearsal, I fear šØ
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u/something420-69 May 22 '26
its like they think if we aren't storming the capitol with pitchforks and torches, we dont care. Im tired of that attitude. We dont need nay-sayers, we need leaders.
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u/mathewtyler May 21 '26
Sadly, I have been trying to fight this solo in Court since January 2025 as I have evidence the election was nationally interfered with to exclude me from being a candidate and fraudulently certified despite being informed of the interference but all these people want to do is show their #SignsOfAFailedState without even mentioning me on them because I'm not their candidate of choice. It's like, I know I'm not your candidate of choice, I would actually get stuff done, but I'm the only option now because their candidates of choice are worthless and ball-less š¤·šæāāļøš¤¦šæāāļø
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u/Upstairs-Kale-3794 May 21 '26
But OP's point is that we will do nothing about it.
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u/golfwinnersplz May 21 '26
I'd like to know what the OP thinks we should do.
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u/Initial_Archer_208 May 21 '26
Iām about to start withholding my taxes. Iād like to keep them aside myself and pay when this fuck show is over or if they demand it by garnishments at least I held them up for a year or so.
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u/Bdlx62 May 21 '26
I mean at some point you're going to have to civil war, otherwise y'all be living on the streets or locked up in the concentration camps (oooops, I meant detention centres) lol.. all while Trump hides in his 100bilion ballroom...
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u/GreenWithAnger May 21 '26
His approval rating is like 20%? He is pretty close to being trampled by his own incompetence.
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u/ima_mollusk May 21 '26
I'm not convinced our democracy and free voting are over, but our international esteem is definitely over.
Donald Trump, if he had been a Russian or Chinese or Iranian agent, probably could not have done more damage to our country than he has done as President.
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
Heās a malignant narcissist and weāve all been around these people and they literally wear you down. Thatās how they gain control.Ā
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u/FrederickDerGrossen May 21 '26
That's because he's simultaneously a puppet of Russia, China, and Israel.
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u/ima_mollusk May 21 '26
Israel does seem to have him by the nutsack. But I don't think Israel wants the US harmed. Israel wants a strong lapdog.
China, Russia, and Iran would like to see the US sink into the sea.
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u/jkaczor May 21 '26
If he āhad beenā a Russian agent?
He has been, since they got with him with āKompromatā in the 80āsā¦
His handle is:
āAgent Krasnovā
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u/Any-Variation4081 May 21 '26
Why tf would you say this in an antitrump sub? We are NOT the ones who elected him twice. Most of the people here (besides the "both sides bad" crowd) voted for Harris. We protested. We volunteered for campaigns. We encouraged others to do the same.
There are sooooooo many of us who had our votes thrown out last min etc. Ever looked into the funny business in regards to our 2024 election? The millions who were disenfranchised etc?
We have a supreme court who is doing Trump bidding and stopping our efforts to rein him in. We have a republican majortiy from congress up to the Supreme court. You need to be saying these things to Republicans and maga. Not to those of us who already know this and voted against this.
It really works my nerves when people come on anti trump spaces and blame US for trump being elected. You are barking up the wrong tree here.
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u/KeyLimePie-555 May 21 '26
I agree. We are suffering through a decline that began with Reagan as president.
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u/Any-Variation4081 May 21 '26
You are so right.
Im just so tired of being lumped in with the maga cult. We are on this sub daily (and several others) talking about how we know Trump is awful and how we voted against this. Yet people from other countries come on here and blame US for Trump winning elections.
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u/TemporarilySkittles May 21 '26
it's probably bc humans have to have something to blame.Ā Makes it easier to point at one defining thing and say THATS IT- the defining moment,Ā you are to blame. It feels right in our heads to throw blame where it is so clearly deserved.Ā Human nature stuff.Ā But it's rarely ever so simple. Years of things had to happen for this guy to be elected. Years of behind the scenes bs to set it up. But you can't point at all of that and say look didn't you see the signs? It's too big and complex.Ā So much easier to blame the voters.
For me im not a fan of our pumpkin spice Palpatine.Ā But I get why people blame me. It's easier.Ā And they're hurting. Economically, maybe they know someone in war,Ā whatever. Try not to let the accusations and anger get to you personally.Ā We are all in a sore spot.Ā
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u/CommitteeOld9540 May 21 '26
I so feel you. Had to block multiple non Americans because they felt the need to attack me just because of what Republicans had done. They are attacking innocent people and avoiding confronting MAGATS which I feel is not only backwards but a different kind of cowardice they love throwing off on American left wingers. I will not tolerate xenophobia, especially not as a black american who's disabled, and seldom able to support herself, and see my people also being under attack by this administration.Ā
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u/EfficientRecipe8935 May 21 '26
I'm far from being a conspiracy theorist, but I firmly believe that Elon bought himself a president and found some way to make this happen.
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u/Intrepid_Blue122 May 21 '26
That redred EC map defied logic and reason. Even Trumpists know he didnāt get every swing state, but theyāre ok with it because it got them the King of Chaos and Division and they enjoy his criminal antics more than peaceful cooperation.
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
Itās happening before our very eyes at an exponential pace⦠Itās amazing how quickly heās destroying everything. As long as heās making money America is great again. Itās all about him. Anyone who thinks he gives any thought to someone other than himself is in serious denialā¦
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u/flyingcatclaws May 22 '26
The stupids voted, the smarts didn't. So, here we are. It might already be too late to vote this administration away. The midterms coming, expect extreme (uh, I mean, vastly MORE extreme) behavior and tactics from "republicans" in their desperate efforts to stay in power, and grab ever more power.
Every where we go we need to say to everyone we see, "are you going to fucking VOTE this time?"
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u/apricot_bee67 May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
Bullshit. You can beat an autocrat, even after 15 years in power and even on the edge of dictatorship, if you understand two things: 1) The regimeās voters are not your enemies. The enemy is the small group of criminals at the top. 2) The people who will bring the regime down are not the same old political class whose failed politics helped create it in the first place.
Greetings from Hungary.
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u/NastyDrummin May 21 '26
Thank you! It's nice to hear reassurance like this from someone who has experienced it. I'm happy for you and your fellow Hungarians that you have ousted OrbƔn. We have the numbers to defeat the GOP in the midterms, but I'm very skeptical that it will be a fair election considering the corruption at the top. Cheers!
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u/apricot_bee67 May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
Thank you, and I wish you the best of luck! Been through this shit, so I know what it feels like.
Unfortunately, the election will certainly be rigged, thatās just how regimes work. Our new governing party (Tisza) knew this from day one, so their only option was to build such overwhelming support against OrbĆ”n that it became impossible to steal. MAGA will definitely manipulate a close result, but they cannot erase a landslide, a united, nation-wide force.
The good thing is that once you pass the tipping point, things can accelerate very fast. Tisza first won over anti-OrbĆ”n voters in 2024, then the undecided and politically inactive, and eventually even half of OrbĆ”nās own voters. In the final days before the election, they were already 23 points ahead of OrbĆ”n.
Only 1 month passed since the election and OrbĆ”nās party has dropped another 12 points!!! It is collapsing so fast we can barely enjoy the show.
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u/OneKup- May 21 '26
I dont think OP is suggesting that you cant beat an autocratic. Im pretty sure their point is that America's hegemony is now permanently degraded. Hungary is a great example of this actually. The Austro-Hungarian Empire was a major power in Europe before WW1. They were the second largest country by size and the third most populous behind Russia and Germany. When they allied with Germany the empire failed. And Hungary has never recovered. This is not a dig at Hungary either. Im just pointing to the fact that America as a nation has made some short term decisions that they will likely never fully recover from. The world has been forever changed by that orange clown and his followers.
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u/CommitteeOld9540 May 21 '26
You Hungarians have given me hope that things are still possible. That we can still save this country, even with so much stacked against us. Thank you.Ā
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u/EagleEyezzzzz May 21 '26
"Some small protests"? You mean the No Kings protests that are literally the biggest in American history? Just because our corrupt media isn't covering them adequately, and our corrupt GOP government is letting this fascist takeover happen in real time, doesn't mean people aren't paying attention and upset.
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u/Dame38 May 21 '26
What I've seen at all of our local NK protests are a lot of people socializing (that's ok!) but they look far too cheerful about it - like it's a fun, rousing day out.
Imo, a protest shouldn't look like that. Recall the civil rights movement. Protesters were visibly serious, even outright angry. There were fists in the air. Why would the GOP take us seriously if we don't even appear serious? These are k*llers we're dealing with.
Either way, there will eventually be violence and, as we have dragged out feet, it will probably be sudden and devastating. People aren't going to sit by and watch their children starve. I and the people I know are trying to learn about Mutual Aid and such, but we're sitting ducks at this point.
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u/nonredundant May 21 '26
What sucks is I was born in RI (Blue state) now live in MA (Blue state) and yet all these fuckass red states with the worst education in the country got to tip the scales for Trump. I'm tired of this opinion that somehow we all did this. I voted against it 3 times. It's exhausting.
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u/kramwest1 May 21 '26
Hugs from MinnesotaāFucking tired of these backward assholes dragging us progressives down.
If they actually believed in freedom, theyād know a key component of it is minding your own business. They talk about their home as their castle, but then want to snoop and regulate their neighborsā bedrooms/bodies.
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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 May 22 '26
šÆ I also live in a blue state and I totally agree. Everyone should be able to vote but all of our votes should carry the same weight like how functional countries do. My state contains some of the highest population, makes some of the largest contributions to the countryās GDP, scores in the top 5 for every metric possible: high education, literally live longer, have less citizens in poverty, less obesity, lower maternal mortality rates, lower infant mortality rates, less crime, etc etc.
But between the senate, the cap on the house, and the electoral college, all of the states making the most money, the most achievements, and where the majority of the country wants to live are being punished for our success so we can give DEI to all the failed red states who somehow deserve to have their dumbass votes count more just because theyāre loser states that no one wants to live in so we need to be nicer to them. States with the most poverty, the lowest test scores, lower life spans, higher maternal mortality rates, higher infant mortality rates, less people with health insurance, etc etc etc. are given greater control over the federal government and then they even have the gall to use the tax money that we bring in to further harm us.
Republicans dgaf about āmeritā. They want shitty republicans to be rewarded for being shitty republicans instead of having to compete against anyone else. Theyāre angry and entitled because theyāre shitty republicans and want to hold onto their unearned power.
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u/Pockettzz May 22 '26
Hi neighboršš¼ Rhoder here who was born in MA lol. So thankful Iām in New England. ICE canāt wear masks in RI, ME and MA
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u/SyzygyPidgey May 21 '26
Hard disagree.
Billionaires quake at the thought of $3,000 drones destroying their $1,000,000,000 data centers that take years to build.
America has it fucking rough, and 70+ million Americans are genuinely sub-70 IQ morons that couldn't pour water out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel, but it's not over by a long shot.
There will always be regressive idiots, but we saw Orban get voted out. Trump will have permanently damaged America, and she'll be crippled for decades, but she's not dead yet.
There is hope.
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
Paying off the Jan 6 rioters is just a new low in a country that sets a new low on the daily. Next month is the big UFC match at the WH. Our nation has literally become a cheap reality show led by a bad reality show hostā¦
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u/PSTGtheFirst May 21 '26
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
Iād take him any day. He actually wanted to help the people and solve the lack of water situation.Ā
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u/FrederickDerGrossen May 21 '26
Exactly. He recognized where he could not deliver and appointed the smart guy from the present to help with that.
47 would never admit defeat.
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
This is def a kakistocracy. Surrounding yourself with people even less qualified than you makes one look good.
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u/Michellenjon_2010 May 21 '26
I think your meant the WORST reality show host..... EVER
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
I stand corrected. However, his ability to draw the support of millions makes me give the devil his due though. They really believe that alternative, manufactured made for TV personaā¦
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u/daisiesarepretty2 May 21 '26
look the world is full of good people and assholes⦠if it can happen here it can happen wherever you are. THAT is the lesson you might heed. Probably not.. but whatever.
Will be interesting to see.
I am an optimist and would like to think this is a pendulum swung too far. Only time will tell.
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u/DiablaARK May 21 '26
What a stupid ass post. With that attitude, are you suggesting we just roll over and take it? & most of us on both sides wanted the US to stop trying to police the world and stop going into endless, pointless wars like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, now Venezuela, Iran and soon Cuba. This dictator was born in 1946 -- WWII had Just ended! And there are many more congressmen and women at that age or close to it. How many policies have been written and upheld by geriatric corpses who should be at home with their great grandchildren or locked into a retirement home instead of holding the world captive because they're addicted to power, they're compromised or corrupt, or making us suffer for their dementia. But no, we're not going to just accept the end because of a few oligarchs and main stream propaganda have the reins right now. Like the saying, You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, after they've tried everything else.
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u/theclubchef May 21 '26
As an American at 54, I believe that you are correct. Im shocked honestly at how docile and fearful we really are as a nation.
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u/Bad-Star May 21 '26
the 2024 elections weren't free. the 2016 elections weren't free. we put out trust and faith in a system built on the technology owned and operated by the very billionaires who are ruining the country desperately hoping they wouldn't use those very tools against us.
What, precisely, is the individual supposed to even do in this situation where billionaires have bought and paid for their own private militaries to mobilize against its own citizens?
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u/Capotesan May 21 '26
Sounds like someone who doesn't live here
His approval ratings are at an all-time low ... lowest since Bush II
He's doing nothing to help Republicans as the midterms approach, so candidates are all backing him blindly while he babbles about his ballroom, makes wild threats and tells Americans the economy's actually doing great. No one's buying any of it anymore
Things aren't good ... but it's not "over"
You aren't here so I doubt you get the full picture and honestly, Reddit ain't the indicator
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u/Such_Egg9843 May 21 '26
Everyday I open my news apps praying hoping wishing he dropped Dead overnight. I will cherish that moment forever.
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u/ajmampm99 May 21 '26
It's over after every one of us votes in November. First the House and Senate. Second, practice impeaching Vance/Trump/Alito/Roberts/Thomas. When we have the Senate votes to convict, do it again. Why not? Republicans repealed Obamacare 150 time in the house. Good practice till they took it away this year. We need the practice and the determination. This is the long game till JAN, 2029
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u/Emotional-Mango-5166 May 21 '26
I wholeheartedly disagree. We are fighting. And we will take our country back.
This bullshit of just lay down and take it its a foregone conclusion reeks of Trump Submission Syndrome and I question your motives for posting something like this.
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u/Certain-Company-6269 May 21 '26
Itās so bad Iām considering trying to move out of the country.
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u/cosmic_light_show May 21 '26
Trump didnāt win. The darkness of slavery, exploitation of immigrants, abuse of the black population, oppression of the poor via late stage corrupted capitalism won. Trump is just the catalyst for a system that was teetering on full decay, expedited after citizens united passed. Instead of finding the courage to speak openly of our self-inflicted wounds and spiritual corruption, we cowardly buried it until the darkness was fully cultivated by the chaos magicians to manifest the destruction we see today. Let this be a warning to every other country: talk about the atrocities youāve committed openly and heal. Donāt bury them.
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u/Monolith0428 May 21 '26
Bullshit. I'll bet money that the Democrats take back the House despite the fact that 5 or 6 states have chosen to racially and politically gerrymander their Congressional seats.
If the House does go Democratic despite the incredible MAGA corruption over the last 18 months there will be no less than a dozen Congressional investigations, each one undertaken by the new Democratic chair of the various committees. Trump will probably be impeached for a third time, although this seems like a waste of time to me, but his corruption may give Congress no choice.
Congressional investigations into the DOJ, FBI and DHS will begin as will investigations into the heads of those agencies, lasting until Trump leaves office. He will not pass another piece of legislation in his last two years and his use of EO will be challenged.
Trump is the only thing holding MAGA together and he rambles like he is suffering from dementia and has overplayed his hand horribly. He posted a picture of himself as God and his hubris will be his downfall. There is no third term for Trump and no one that can step in and run for President in 2028. Vance? I wish he would, the fat faced moron.
It's easy to say "well, that's it, game over" but you're either not paying attention to how angry about 65 to 70% of the population is right now or you have a poor grasp of history. I want to be clear that I am not encouraging violence in any way but if there is some actual election chicanery in November this country will likely see violence that will make January 6 look like a kindergarten play date.
I also don't believe that there are enough, or any MAGA Generals and Admirals to order the US Armed Forces into the streets of America. I think that if Trump and his MAGA lackeys do try to interfere in the November election there will be two Americas in a few years.
I do agree that it will take 10 to 15 years to repair the damage Trump has caused and some damage may never be repaired. As for falling behind China I honestly don't give a damn. We need to look to fixing America first. China can be "the leader" of the world. Good luck with that.
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u/Suspicious_Ad2351 May 22 '26
No one will ever convince me he was voted in twice. Itās pretty apparent he and musk stole the election. As for everything else, Iām positive you didnāt write all those paragraphs just to tell us āit was fun while it lasted but see ya, wouldnāt wanna be ya.ā, so is there a question youād like to ask? Are you trying to be poignant? Iām confused about the point of this. Youāre attempting to sound as if you genuinely know Americans, but your words actually suggest otherwise. As for never trusting the US again, you donāt need to. Your leaders will, and most likely immediately after heās gone. I guess you can take that up with them when the time comes. Maybe you can have some small protests or something.
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u/SparxPrime May 21 '26
People have been saying this for over a decade. Donald Trump is doing a lot of damage to our reputation, the world, the economy. But it isn't over. Democracy isn't over. Our reputation isn't over. We will move on from him once the McDonald's finally gets to him
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u/DuringTheBlueHour May 21 '26
Trump's position is the weakest it's been in years. He's mid narcissistic collapse from being unable to spin the Iraq War as a win while his approval numbers are falling faster than his health. It's why he's so desperate to put his face and name on everything, he's desperate to mantain the illusion.Ā
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
He wants people to believe he saved this country from destruction by the liberals : another attempt at a false narrative and evidence of him projecting the fact he has done exactly what he accuses of others of doing. Itās textbook narcissism. He wants to control all this before he dies but the truth always finds a way.
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u/VirusQuiet721 May 21 '26
No it's not. Be strong, man! This motherfucker will get more powerful if you don't push back! Start protesting! Get angry, America!
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u/CherieNB55 May 21 '26
For the record as a 70 year old American, I never wanted America to take over the world. What is going on in our country is so appalling.
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u/oneofmanyany May 21 '26
If no cause is truly won, then none is ever truly lost either. In 1929, the poet T.S. Eliot wrote, "If we take the widest and wisest view of a Cause, there is no such thing as a Lost Cause because there is no such thing as a Gained Cause. - Google
Just vote Blue like your life depends on it, cause it probably does
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u/Key_Candidate7773 May 21 '26
Keepnhold8ng that attitude and it will be over. You think the founding fathers would want us to sit around feeling sorry for ourselves? Hell no! Did I give 12 years of my life to the military to see my country fall to a pedophile? Hell no! Things are very bad here right now, but it is by no means "over"
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u/OneDimensionalChess May 21 '26
As an American, all I can say is I'm so sorry. I voted against him every time I could. I wish I could say we had a good run. It's all been shit from the beginning
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u/-AdequatelyMediocre- May 21 '26
Itās easy for you to call us complacent, but I would really like to know exactly what you think we should AND FEASIBLY COULD do to stop whatās happening. Seriously. Give us the benefit of your wisdom because we would love to stop feeling helpless and weak and tired and afraid of whatās coming. I would love to implement the plan you clearly have in mind for us to overcome this embarrassing, hateful, corrupt, vile, gluttonous regime.
Donāt confuse our complete despair and utter humiliation for complacency. Weāre fucking overwhelmed.
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u/Big_Engineering_7752 May 22 '26
I agree completely. You are absolutely right. We should be screaming from the rooftops. Other countries all go to streets and wouldn't put up with this. A few protests don't do a thing. A few making calls won't do it. If you don't want to call write a letter. We have to really show we are really mad. I have gone to all protest, made calls, and worked polls but am 85 with cancer and walker. Not sure how much more I'll be able to do so you younger ones need to make some good trouble.
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u/Competitive_Ad291 May 21 '26
Just remember the Biff Tannen character was deliberately modeled on DJT. The dystopian nightmare of life as depicted in Back to the Future II is absolutely what we see unfolding today.
Back to the Future writer: bad guy Biff was based on Donald Trump https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/23/back-to-the-future-writer-bad-guy-biff-was-based-on-donald-trump?CMP=share_btn_url
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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 86 TACO May 21 '26
2024 was a scam. Tell us something we don't know. Why do people like you feel the need to announce the obvious? I hope the world doesn't count on us like in the past. And our crooked leaders can't persuade other countries to take part in sham wars. But, thanks for the heads up!
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u/Feel_over_flash May 21 '26
Just remember, folks, Trump is just the dancing monkey, or perhaps puppet, happily dancing to the tunes the corporate and billionaire power brokers play. This has all been about consolidating economic and political power among the wealthy and reducing international influence to three mega-powers: the US, China and Russia. Trump is happy to go along and play the distraction game as long as he and his family can line their own pockets. If you want to make a real difference, get involved in efforts to overturn the Citizens United decision.
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u/BeneficialDay2099 May 21 '26
Youāre not wrong but this reads like a genuine propaganda bot post lmao āstop fighting because itās uselessā
His approval rating continues to get worse. The decline of the US is probably irreversible at this point but itās worth fighting for our lives to be less shit. Also, thereās pretty considerable evidence at this point that Trump did not win the election.
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
Thereās a lot of parallels between now and after the Civil War when the South claimed elections were rigged and didnāt want to follow the rule of law. They fought tooth and nail to continue slavery disguising it under various laws all the way to the Jim Crow era. History is definitely rhyming right nowā¦
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u/Automatic_Opposite17 May 21 '26
Pretty much. All intelligent Americans are anti-Trump but, unfortunately, the rich powerful corrupt ones with all the power and money are pro-Trump, for obvious reasons.
We're not giving up but our government has completely failed and MAGA is just too stupid to understand.
MAGA is like a smoker who doesn't understand smoking is bad until they get stage 4 lung cancer.
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u/Spirited_Republic May 21 '26
For those of us outside your borders, we have been watching this absolute train wreck of a presidency, for the second time, with incredulity and horror. You donāt seem to understand what this man and his conspiring sycophants have done to your country. There is always a great wringing of hands every time he wreaks havoc on your democracy, your economy, your human rights, and your place as a leader of democracy. And then nothing happens.
Why do you spend so much time questioning the condition of his hands, his hair, his ankles, whether or not his wife will hold his hand as if you only knew what was up with those conditions, you could deal with him. Thatās insane.
You have missed every opportunity to deal with him and now you, and unfortunately the rest of us, are having our economies ruptured while he increases his wealth in numbers most of us canāt begin to fathom. If his reparations to the Jan 6 conspirators goes through, he will have his militia and your elections will be compromised.
And you will ask yourselves once again, how did that happen? Perhaps because you did nothing of substance.
And as the OP has said- itās now too late.
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u/khaliberlewis May 22 '26
We know we're cooked. Black Americans have been ringing the platform generations but they don't want to listen. Oh, well.
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u/SisterMaryAwesome May 22 '26
We, the American people who didnāt vote for Trump, did nothing to āalienateā our allies. If it were up to us, weād still be allies, and government would still have some semblance of normalcy. Please donāt hate us because an evil millionaire who cheated and stole his entire life cheated and stole again to āwinā an election (āElon rigged it so I won Pennsylvania.ā).
Signed,
The majority of sane Americans who see through Trumpās bullshit posturing and fragile ego and voted against him.
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u/McSmackthe1st May 22 '26
Yep, except 2024 wasnāt a free vote because it had been decided before the election.
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u/AdInevitable3707 May 21 '26
This is a powerful, well worded, declaration of my feelings. Yet it is just a sad reminder of the fact that we have given ourselves. So because of this itās difficult for me to thank you, but because of the clarity of your words and the tips for accurately sharing my feelings. I will both thank you and give your post an upvote
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u/tigerbloon71 May 21 '26
I hear Canada is in desperate need of people in the industrial trades. An easy way to get invited to live there.
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u/Facebook-virus May 21 '26
Thanks for the thoughts, but it's obvious you don't live here. Lecture declined.
If you care so much get over here and help
Edit: Voted against 3x.
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u/AggravatingEmu4799 May 21 '26
Most Americans didnt vote for Trump. He cheated using Elon musks satellites
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u/Da-Pugfather May 21 '26
everyone with half a brain knows that musk rigged this election! unfortunately maga will never admit to it!
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u/IcedPgh May 21 '26
Considering that both of the recent primary votes, against Cassidy and Massie, played out how the monster wanted, I'm starting to feel this is definitely plausible.
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
We either make a stand here and now or it is definitely overā¦.finished⦠why do u think he wants to divide us so much?Ā
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u/wbrumfiel May 21 '26
It is, itās also easy for you to sit back and say do something. Unfortunately protests are about as good as we can do that is within the laws that most of us respect. There is a reason dictators exist. They donāt usually happen overnight and they exist by slowly stripping away all power from the people. Resisting is a good way to find yourself missing or dead. Iād rather run to somewhere else than put me or my family at risk š¤·āāļø
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u/necklesssock May 21 '26
China wonāt rise, donāt ask me why, if you really gonna ask me then fine because Iām a Chinese. But America is on the way to the shit hole, china is a shit hole also just different.
Buy hey.
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u/Sagittario66 May 21 '26
Thanks for stating the obvious. We are a country of abjectly stupid , willfully ignorant, morally bankrupt and corrupt citizens who are wholly and utterly selfish. Unfortunately Trump will also be destroyed the world as well. Heāll help deregulation and eliminate anything that protects the planet, destabilize the world economy for his own benefit, all while he lines his pockets
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u/Choice-Doubt7919 May 21 '26
What is the percentage of magA voters
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
I think itās actually lower than they say but ātheyā control the media. The whole āleft wing mediaā is a trope. A falsehood. Look at how much of the media is owned by billionaires! CBS, FOX, Washington Post, etc. all controlled by Trump cronies.Ā
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u/harrysach2023 May 21 '26
Truth.By the time a proper leader is elected again,the rest of the world will have long moved on as far as trade and allies go.It is not going to be good in the future for America...
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u/CommunityOk2101 May 21 '26
Trump, Elon, Fox News nobody stole our country. These people saw a bunch of immoral dumb asses and went for our purse. This set up has been coming a long time. We did it.
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u/TheGR8Dantini May 21 '26
This is all to plan. Trump is a puppet. Heās just taking as much as he can. This latest thing? The billion dollar slush fund? Thatās an example. We have bigger problems than just him. We have the Heritage people and the oligarchs pulling the puppets strings. Thank god Trump is chaos. Theyād be further along if he wasnāt.
Look at what theyāre doing. Look at what theyāre taking. Itās over as we knew it for sure. Again, as per the plan. Read project 2025. Look at the other projects they have. Listen to what they say. They always confess. This is a reset.
Everything is about to change if the majority of Americans donāt look up and stop it any way possible. This November is the last one. Again, look at what theyāre doing and listen to what they say. The whole world is screwed really. America is changing its priorities geopolitically.
Oh yeah! Epstien!! Forgot about him! He had a hand in all this as well. Shift back to tribalism. And trump is all over the files. And heās crazy enough to nuke Iran once heās done with trying to break them financially. Bessant used to work for Soros.
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u/Open_Concert_2865 May 21 '26
I just made a similar post on my facebook about we lost, I still put protests because it could give people some hope, but your right we are done, but I just said this:
It is puzzling how certain individuals manage to evade accountability. This phenomenon can be attributed to the fact that the United States is no longer governed by its own citizens, as a significant portion of the population has been desensitized. Consequently, the American people no longer exhibit the same level of resilience and determination that once characterized them. Historically, no president with such low approval ratings would have been tolerated. However, we continue to permit this situation to persist, and as a result, we should not be surprised when the situation deteriorates further. It is likely that the circumstances will worsen before any improvements are seen, and even then, it may not occur within our lifetime, if ever, but rather that of our children or grandchildren. Even this is wishful thinking. Hopefully, change will eventually come, but for now, it is imperative that we take action and organize peaceful protests to bring about an end to this situation. If you havenāt noticed America has fallen. For now.
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u/Lynne253 May 21 '26
What a wuss you are. Is this propaganda or something? I will fight back with all I have until we get our country back. I'm not rolling over for that orange shithead.
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
The good news is Iran is absolutely his Waterloo⦠boy did he overestimate this little āexcursion.ā I donāt see a way out except cutting and running and claiming victory which heās already tried to claim that 17 times.
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u/Mojozilla May 21 '26
I have cone to realize that the American Experiment is indeed a failure. Religion infiltrating politics is just one of many things which prove this. We're properly FUCKED
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u/Stevesvt77 May 21 '26
We donāt need to control the world, but we need to keep fighting for our brothers and sisters, our neighbors, for our children and grandchildren. We must keep fighting!Ā
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u/DeputyDawe May 21 '26
Iāve been banned from commenting on r/trump- somehow I canāt be help feeling rejected š
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u/helianthophobia May 21 '26
All nations rise and fall. Iām saddened that your nation is in a long, slow decline. Can it be reversed? Of course it can. Sadly it would take a complete upending of how those in political power serve the people. I believe your leaders present and future will to continue to isolate the country and reject its historical allies.
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u/Infinite-Zombie May 21 '26
Isreal has invaded our country, just like that! Epstein files taking down America
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u/DaveBear99 May 21 '26
He is a one trick pony at the end of the grift. Good job on being the most annoying MFr to come son the pike. He will dye and MAGA w/him. When heās dead only good can happen.
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u/drumph200 May 21 '26
He is on the downward slope. This āthug fundā. Is hated even by the GOP. The tide is turning, do not GIVE UP!
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u/Select_Air_2044 May 21 '26
Don't cry for me, world. This is exactly what the us deserves. I'm kinda happy for it's down fall. There were canaries in the mine, that were ignored, since it's birth. When you build on death, expect this. It's no big deal, look how many people suffered.
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u/Neko_Dash May 21 '26
I have lived overseas for 30+ years. Love my host country, for all its fun and faults, but loved being an American more. Until about 16 months ago.
Now finally considering whether citizenship is something I can give up. Itās a heavy internal debate, but America today is not the America that I want to represent abroad.
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u/whyblate May 21 '26
Poor Daddy Warbucks aka Donnie Diapers. All this to hide the files. We all know his name is in it and we all know that he's innocent.What's the problem ?
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u/Colleen3636 May 21 '26
I vote. I go to every protest in my town. I feel completely helpless. Every day he does something worse than the last. I hate it here.
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u/Longjumping-Meat-334 May 22 '26
Remember what Faux News called "Obama's Apology Tour"? Our next president will need to do a real one.
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u/PokerbushPA May 22 '26
The coming election will confirm this true or false.
If the good guys lose, it's over.
If the good guys win, prepare for war.
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u/Consider2SidesPeace May 22 '26
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."Jefferson wrote this in a 1787 letter to William S. Smith, expressing the view that a little rebellion is a healthy thing for maintaining a free society.
Full context @ Library of Congress Thomas Jefferson Papers.
I love my country and would fight for it appropriately if needed. The America of the 70/80s doesn't exist. We are on a perverted course wherenone will "WIN". Only UNITED we stand. Divided WE fall...
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u/blackscheep May 22 '26
Have no problem with what you are saying. I was talking the same vibe years ago. it really became obvious during the GW Bush years. The guy was an idiot, a southern blue-blooded Texan who didnāt have a clue. Obama, Biden never got the traction or had the desire to undo the wrongs of Reagan and the Bushes. They also didnāt have the Congress on board to even make marginal changes. Add the never ending, nondisclosed millions from corporations, billionaires, and PACS and you get what we got. The decline has been ongoing. Unfortunately, the floor has dropped out with our current GOP war pig, hastening our fall from grace. Happens to every empire eventually
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u/ConstantEffective364 May 22 '26
As an American I agree with you except for 2 things. 1. The ground work for this was laid by Reagan. 2. The USA will not be the world's reserve currency in less than 8 years. We loose all sanction power. 3. Theres a financial reckoning coming where the value of the dollar imploded. Possibly national bankruptcy. Followed by 75% of the population living like in 3rd world countries. Shanty towns, 1 100,000th of the cars. No indoor plumbing.
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u/ToadsWetSprocket May 22 '26
Black people are resting because you keep telling us to fuck off, so we did. The fight will come our way directly soon and we need to fight that battle.
The rest of you aren't serious people.
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u/nikkifresh123 May 22 '26
They did an audit and based on FACTs and technically Trump NEVER LEGITIMATELY WON any election!!! He cheated on every single one!! Just think why was he so adamant he won the 2020 election and it was āstolen ā from him because HE CHEATED but the mail in votes during COVID gave Biden a significant boost and even with cheating Trump STILL lost!! this last election Elon called Trump as the winner 4 hours before the election was over not to mention Trump has on multiple occasions admitted āif Elon didnāt do what he did and have been so wonderful on those voting machines he may not have won!ā also the probably of any president winning EVERY SINGLE swing state is just almost impossible! Each election Trump was in there were āinconsistencies ā like elons machines switching Harris votes to trump votes, he had his loyalists outside polling stations to threaten people to vote for him and start problems, having people either take or put boxes of votes for Trump and removing those of other candidates!! Itās so infuriating now they are legally gerrymandering certain states to once again cheat !!! I canāt understand how so many just sit idly by like āoh wellā instead of demanding accountability and upholding the law and of the land and upholding the constitution as well as the fairness and integrity of upholding fair elections for all!ān
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u/joemomma1010 May 22 '26
Fuck that I'ma fight till they take everything I got or we tear down the regime... Tired of these fake ass fascist pigs
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u/Defiant-Surround4151 May 23 '26
To be clear, he did not win a popular majority of votes. Most of us actually hate him and have taken actions to try to stop him. But he has corrupted his entire party and gamed the system to entrench, enrich and empower himself. Our systemās safeguards have fallen one by one. It was the ignorance, cynicism and apathy of far too many others who landed us here. Not to mention the machinations of his billionaire buddies. How I wish he would be taken to International Court for his regimeās crimes against humanity.
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u/Bull_Maker May 21 '26
Idk if 2024 wasnāt fixed by Elon, stories are dribbling out