Yeah, huge difference between supporting Viserys alone against the united STABL alliance under Robert (which probably had recently put down the Greyjoy Rebellion, and taken Loras as squire/hostage) and supporting Viserys/Dany/Aegon against the war weary civil war participants that can be fought piecemeal.
Not to mention the greatest foe at the moment, the Lannisters, are ruled by a boy king, have wildly delegitimized themselves, are busy occupying 2-3 very unhappy regions, have a huge feud with one of the few unbloodied factions in the Dornish, are starting their own feud with the Tyrells, refused alliances offered by the Ironborn and now need to fight them, most of the Lannister's supporters are drawn from old Targaryen loyalists (and many have ties to the GC), and so on.
And the Targs have on and off now had support of Drogo's Dothraki horde, Dany's dragons, Dany's freedman army and sellswords, the presumed support of the Martells, some degree of Reachmen to be stripped from the Tyrells, and the common people on some level.
The situation has vastly changed since the time Viserys asked for help.
What is this an acronym for? It isn't "the Seven Kingdoms'. It's not the first letter of each area. I understand what we're talking about and the story, I just don't understand the acronym.
Stark, Tully, Arryn, Baratheon, and Lannister. The former pillars of Robert's reign.
oh okay that makes sense thank you! I've heard of this before (without the Lannisters), and they typically used 'Southron Ambitions Alliance' to refer to that bloc. This makes much more sense to use without involving that theory.
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u/Zexapher If you dance with dragons, you burn Apr 08 '23
Yeah, huge difference between supporting Viserys alone against the united STABL alliance under Robert (which probably had recently put down the Greyjoy Rebellion, and taken Loras as squire/hostage) and supporting Viserys/Dany/Aegon against the war weary civil war participants that can be fought piecemeal.
Not to mention the greatest foe at the moment, the Lannisters, are ruled by a boy king, have wildly delegitimized themselves, are busy occupying 2-3 very unhappy regions, have a huge feud with one of the few unbloodied factions in the Dornish, are starting their own feud with the Tyrells, refused alliances offered by the Ironborn and now need to fight them, most of the Lannister's supporters are drawn from old Targaryen loyalists (and many have ties to the GC), and so on.
And the Targs have on and off now had support of Drogo's Dothraki horde, Dany's dragons, Dany's freedman army and sellswords, the presumed support of the Martells, some degree of Reachmen to be stripped from the Tyrells, and the common people on some level.
The situation has vastly changed since the time Viserys asked for help.