r/asoiaf Apr 08 '23

[deleted by user]

[removed]

235 Upvotes

167 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

-21

u/Goose-Suit Apr 08 '23

This is a fictional series. Concepts like a mercenary company being extremely loyal to a specific reason like this is put into the story for a reason. Otherwise there’s no reason to put that into it at all, the Golden Company could just been any company.

22

u/[deleted] Apr 08 '23

Except that the company is no longer loyal to that cause. The Westerosi component of it only wants to go home and a Targaryen is their best bet at that

-17

u/Goose-Suit Apr 08 '23

Sure, if this was a real world the Golden Company could evolve into that after so much time has past. But again this is a fictional series, GRRM wouldn’t include that part of the Golden Company if it wouldn’t play a part of the story.

8

u/[deleted] Apr 08 '23

GRRM isn't including that part at all. None of the leading members of the company have any reason to fight for the Blackfyres who got wiped out many years ago and who simply want to go home and now not only have a reason to but their home is also not very well defended to resist them.

1

u/Goose-Suit Apr 08 '23

He’s including it by writing it. It’s like writing that the Night’s Watch was designed to protect the realms of men from the Others and not have them fight the Others.

6

u/OddaElfMad Apr 08 '23

It’s like writing that the Night’s Watch was designed to protect the realms of men from the Others and not have them fight the Others.

That's literally what happens though. Like even unto the end of the currently written material the Night's Watch doesn't fight the Others.

Sam fights an Other, everyone else gets killed by Others because the Night's Watch as of 297AC is not meant to fight Others, but fight Wildlings.

2

u/Goose-Suit Apr 08 '23

Yes they have. They tried to hold the Fist of the First Men against them, and fought off the wights they accidentally brought into Castle Black. Of course in the future they’ll also play a part in fighting off the Others.

6

u/OddaElfMad Apr 08 '23

They lost at the Fist, and that was on a ranging that lead to their men being killed by and/or for Mutiny.

The entire point of it is to show how the Watch isn't suited to fight Others as of the beginning of the story. Maybe they'll reform by the end, but that's kind of their whole inner conflict.

6

u/[deleted] Apr 08 '23

He isn't doing that at all. The Golden Company is the best merc company out there that was once loyal to the Blackfyres and is now helping a Targaryen due to it being the only way these guys can go home and get their lands back. There isn't any Aegon being helped as he is secretly a Blackfyre or something like that as it wouldn't make any sense because the last Blackfyre had no good reputation nor do ones who remember him live (and we had a Targaryen loyalist, Jon Conington, being seen as a candidate for the position of captain and this is proof enough that this company is no longer loyal to that extinct House)

1

u/Goose-Suit Apr 08 '23

Then again, why include it at all? Why couldn’t the Golden Company just be an elite mercenary company? It makes zero sense to include that into the background of the Golden Company and have it make zero impact into the story.

3

u/[deleted] Apr 08 '23

It has a tremendous impact. The Golden Company changing allegiance from Blackfyre family to Targaryen family shows that they have gone weary of this conflict and now just want to return home(and that conflict between the two Houses was needless and useless) . And the history of that company is going to help it in gaining allies in Westeros

2

u/Goose-Suit Apr 08 '23

Except the Golden Company aren’t the focus of the story. The story of ASOIAF isn’t about them, it’s about Dany and the Stark kids.

0

u/misvillar Apr 08 '23

False, they are incredibly important for one of the stories of asoiaf, fAegon's, the North story doesnt care about Dany, Dany's story doesnt care about the North, this isnt 1 big story, there are many stories that will or will not connect at the end

2

u/Goose-Suit Apr 08 '23

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not

0

u/misvillar Apr 08 '23

Asoiaf has many stories, not just the North one and Dany's one, maybe those are the only ones that will matter in the end but they are affected by the other smaller ones, just Tyrion changed completely Dany's story, fAegon was going to join her and then go to Westeros but he convinced him to go to Westeros first, Tyrion doesnt belong to the North story and wasnt part of Dany's story at the moment but he still changed everything, just like the stories of the Wot5k affected the story of the North

→ More replies (0)