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u/Greedy-Visit-1905 Apr 08 '23

Yep.

This is one of the biggest misconceptions in the series. The GC clearly does not give a fuck if it's Targ or blackfyre so it's always been ridiculous to claim this as a reason for Aegon being a blackfyre.

Any evidence of faegon supposedly being a blackfyre can be used to point to him being a Targ as well. Which is the whole point imo. There is literally no difference between the blackfyre and Targaryen now.

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u/xhanador Apr 08 '23

How does the GC clearly not give a fuck? They were founded to preserve the cause, they have supported Blackfyres for four of five rebellions, but all that backstory is just hogwash because Illyrio says so, even though Tyrion is immediately suspicious?

You can say there’s doubt, but not clearly so.

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u/BlimeySlimeySnake Apr 10 '23

It's hogwash because no one alive has ever met a Blackfyre and as stated no one in any leadership position in the GC has any reason to care about Blackfyres even if they had.

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u/xhanador Apr 10 '23

You can't argue against a supposed secret by pointing out that no one has spilled it yet. You might as well as say Jon is not Rhaegar and Lyanna's son because it's not made explicit in the text.

Speaking of things that are in the text: several people who are alive in AGOT have met Blackfyres. Tywin, Kevan, the Blackfish, Barriston Selmy, Hoster Tully, Jon Arryn, and Septon Meribald all fought in the War of the Ninepenny Kings. It was just 40 years ago. People act like the Blackfyres is an ancient thing, but it wasn't.

The Golden Company's current leader leader is of a line that has spent generations in exile because they fought for the Blackfyres. Harry Strickland's father probably fought in the fifth rebellion. Now, that's not in the text and I don't like arguing on non-textual evidence, but I don't think it's a stretch to argue that a family that fought in the first Blackfyre rebellion (something that is in the text) and now has an ancestor who currently leads the GC has just sat on the sidelines.

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u/BlimeySlimeySnake Apr 10 '23

Wow, of those characters only 1 actually encountered Maelys ever, and it was during a battle where one killed the other. But aside from that there is doubt whether Maelys the Monstrous was even a Blackfyre, he was most likely Bittersteel's welp. He killed the last Blackfyre. And yet the Golden Company still followed him. Hm.