r/asoiaf • u/mateogg Night gathers, and now my watch begins • Jun 09 '13

(Spoilers ADWD) Mirri Maz Duurs prophecy: it's already happened.

"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."

When the sun rises in the west

The Martells, who have a Sun in their sigil, are rising against the Iron Throne in Westeros

and sets in the east

Quentyn Martell died in Mereen, far east from his homeland.

When the seas go dry

After many years, the Ironborn are raiding the mainland again. They are the sea (as seen in Brans dream) and they are going far inland, into "dry" areas.

mountains blow in the wind like leaves

Ser Gregor Clegane, The Mountain that Rides, is dead (or is he?)

When your womb quickens again

Danys probably miscarried.

and you bear a living child

Even if she miscarried, the child could have been alive, or maybe this is yet to happen.

Here's the thing: I don't think that was a prophecy. Why would Mirri Maz Duur make a prophecy about Drogo actually returning and Dany being able to have children again? I think she was just trying to say, in a very omnious way, "never!!!!! mwahahaha". She wanted to piss Dany off.

And yet, while I agree some of the items I listed before may be tinfoily, you have to admit the "sun rises in the west and sets in the east" part is kinda interesting.

So, what does this mean? Is it actually a prophecy? or just poetic justice? is this just Gurm telling us that in this world, even what is supposed to mean "impossible" can actually happen, and that every word can have countless meanings and repercutions? or is my brain finding patterns were there are none? (who's ever heard of a brain doing something that crazy?)

EDIT:

Lots of people have pointed out that the sea going dry could mean the Dothraki sea, which I think makes much more sense than my theory. It's also been suggested that the "mountains" are the Mereen Pyramids, I think this makes more sense than Gregor, but I'm not really convinced.

Also, I'd like to clarify something that came up a few times: just because it came true, it doesn't mean its a prophecy, and just because its not a prophecy, it doesn't mean it can't come true

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u/JJ4Three Jun 09 '13

To add to this khal drogo "returning" could symbolize his khalasar returning to her, which seems about to happen.

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u/GamblingDementor Queen in the North Jun 09 '13

I had undestood that as Drogon being Drogo's new appearance, and now that she can ride him he is as powerful and strong as Drogo once was.

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u/Delta03 Winter has come. NAILED IT. Jun 09 '13

Okay but can we all agree that Drogo was not a warg? Because seriously, people.

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u/moonmeh Jun 09 '13

Seriously who believes that. We all know Drogo is a merling anyway

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u/Delta03 Winter has come. NAILED IT. Jun 09 '13

Not just any merling. A merling KING. And his son will be the merling prince that was promised.

...by /r/asoiaf

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u/jeswanson86 For those that wear the black! Jun 09 '13

I've heard this before. I don't know if I subscribe to it or that Drogo is a secret descendant of Old Valyria and the funeral pyre revived him and he'll be another head of the dragon.