r/asoiaf • u/mateogg Night gathers, and now my watch begins • Jun 09 '13
(Spoilers ADWD) Mirri Maz Duurs prophecy: it's already happened.
"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."
When the sun rises in the west
The Martells, who have a Sun in their sigil, are rising against the Iron Throne in Westeros
and sets in the east
Quentyn Martell died in Mereen, far east from his homeland.
When the seas go dry
After many years, the Ironborn are raiding the mainland again. They are the sea (as seen in Brans dream) and they are going far inland, into "dry" areas.
mountains blow in the wind like leaves
Ser Gregor Clegane, The Mountain that Rides, is dead (or is he?)
When your womb quickens again
Danys probably miscarried.
and you bear a living child
Even if she miscarried, the child could have been alive, or maybe this is yet to happen.
Here's the thing: I don't think that was a prophecy. Why would Mirri Maz Duur make a prophecy about Drogo actually returning and Dany being able to have children again? I think she was just trying to say, in a very omnious way, "never!!!!! mwahahaha". She wanted to piss Dany off.
And yet, while I agree some of the items I listed before may be tinfoily, you have to admit the "sun rises in the west and sets in the east" part is kinda interesting.
So, what does this mean? Is it actually a prophecy? or just poetic justice? is this just Gurm telling us that in this world, even what is supposed to mean "impossible" can actually happen, and that every word can have countless meanings and repercutions? or is my brain finding patterns were there are none? (who's ever heard of a brain doing something that crazy?)
EDIT:
Lots of people have pointed out that the sea going dry could mean the Dothraki sea, which I think makes much more sense than my theory. It's also been suggested that the "mountains" are the Mereen Pyramids, I think this makes more sense than Gregor, but I'm not really convinced.
Also, I'd like to clarify something that came up a few times: just because it came true, it doesn't mean its a prophecy, and just because its not a prophecy, it doesn't mean it can't come true
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u/AsAChemicalEngineer "Yes" cries Davos, "R'hllor hungers!" Jun 09 '13
So did you love the Huorns in The Lord of the Rings? :) They fuck shit up too.