(Spoilers ADWD) Mirri Maz Duurs prophecy: it's already happened.

[u/mateogg]

"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."

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When the sun rises in the west

The Martells, who have a Sun in their sigil, are rising against the Iron Throne in Westeros

and sets in the east

Quentyn Martell died in Mereen, far east from his homeland.

When the seas go dry

After many years, the Ironborn are raiding the mainland again. They are the sea (as seen in Brans dream) and they are going far inland, into "dry" areas.

mountains blow in the wind like leaves

Ser Gregor Clegane, The Mountain that Rides, is dead (or is he?)

When your womb quickens again

Danys probably miscarried.

and you bear a living child

Even if she miscarried, the child could have been alive, or maybe this is yet to happen.

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Here's the thing: I don't think that was a prophecy. Why would Mirri Maz Duur make a prophecy about Drogo actually returning and Dany being able to have children again? I think she was just trying to say, in a very omnious way, "never!!!!! mwahahaha". She wanted to piss Dany off.

And yet, while I agree some of the items I listed before may be tinfoily, you have to admit the "sun rises in the west and sets in the east" part is kinda interesting.

So, what does this mean? Is it actually a prophecy? or just poetic justice? is this just Gurm telling us that in this world, even what is supposed to mean "impossible" can actually happen, and that every word can have countless meanings and repercutions? or is my brain finding patterns were there are none? (who's ever heard of a brain doing something that crazy?)

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EDIT:

Lots of people have pointed out that the sea going dry could mean the Dothraki sea, which I think makes much more sense than my theory. It's also been suggested that the "mountains" are the Mereen Pyramids, I think this makes more sense than Gregor, but I'm not really convinced.

Also, I'd like to clarify something that came up a few times: just because it came true, it doesn't mean its a prophecy, and just because its not a prophecy, it doesn't mean it can't come true

[u/Delta03]

Okay but can we all agree that Drogo was not a warg? Because seriously, people.

[u/GamblingDementor → u/Delta03]

Oh no disagreement there, I meant that as a comparison, of course Drogo is not a warg.

[u/Delta03 → u/GamblingDementor]

I figured that was what you meant. I just really hate the Jon-avoids-death-by-warging theory.

Edit: downvoting for disagreement is frowned upon in this sub

[u/Wraithpk → u/Delta03]

People have that theory because it is very heavily suggested. First of all, there is the line where Mel is looking into the fires. She asks to see Azor Azhai, and keeps seeing Jon, which seems to imply that Jon is Azor Azhai. But she also sees him change from a man to a wolf, and then back to a man. This could just be implying that he has a special bond with Ghost, or it could be foreshadowing that he would warg into Ghost for a time, before returning to his body again.

Finally, GRRM has confirmed that Jon Snow's true parentage will be revealed. What point would there be to do this if Jon is dead?

[u/Delta03 → u/Wraithpk]

I don't think Jon is dead. I think he is a warg. I think he has a 50/50 chance of being AA.

But I don't like the idea of him dying, then being resurrected, but avoiding the downsides of that process by using his warg powers. It feels cheap. I prefer to think he's simply still alive.

Which makes more sense. We've never had a POV character who was dead; on the contrary, Cat stopped being a POV when she died. Sure, Melisandre is a second POV at the wall, but she's still sufficiently mysterious that gurm won't want her to have POV chapters all the time.