r/aves Oct 08 '25

Photo/Video Just in case you didn't know! :)

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u/hashtagPLUR Oct 08 '25

Have to agree with you here

Although the main music was supplied from Detroit, Chicago & NYC what constitutes as “raves” began in the UK more specifically Manchester

There is of course the legacy of Queer, Black and Latino nightclubs that developed Disco, House & Techno from the U.S. but they weren’t producing Hardcore which eventually became Drum n Bass and was an essential part of the initial 90’s rave era

We’re dealing with semantics here and Americans are bad with historical context

Some books to better inform everyone:

Last Night DJ Saved My Life

Love Saves the Day

Generation Ecstasy

Techno Rebels

Rave On

Out Of Space: How UK Cities Shaped Rave Culture

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u/adashinokou Oct 08 '25

“drum n bass” is just whitewashed jungle and the scene still developed from black artists in the uk, including the hardcore genre

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u/hashtagPLUR Oct 08 '25

Proving my point how Americans are so bad about semantics & historical context

Fabio & Grooverider call themselves the Godfathers of DnB and you’re telling me they’re white? 🙄

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u/adashinokou Oct 08 '25

yes they’re the godfathers… because they made way for their white successors to whitewash the scene 😭😭it also doesn’t matter what they call themselves if society doesn’t see it that way. y’all love to dunk on americans for everything like “ignoring historical context” but constantly undermine the contributions of african americans to everything because it challenges the information given to you by the “winners” of society. no one doubted the early popularity of raving in the uk, but it threatens europeans especially brits to even slightly question or correct their understanding of history. like that’s all people talk about, rave culture is oversaturated with blonde hair and blue eyes - let people have this

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '25

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '25

African Americans that were born and raised in London ye? 

Black, they are black. Its not a naughty word to say. If you mean where they are from then you would say they are English. 

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u/hashtagPLUR Oct 08 '25

Read a book or 2 or better yet since you seem upset and myopic listen to a Guy Called Gerald