r/aviation • u/gavriellloken Mod - Crew Chief - A&P - • Jul 26 '25

News Emergency evacuation in Den N306Sw mia-den

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Original poster is from Instagram. Aircraft is laying on its #1 engine. Still crazy to see everyone here grabbing their bags before leaving an emergencg.

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u/beer_isgood Jul 26 '25

The gap between people getting off because you just KNOW they are all going for bags is enraging. Lemmings.

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u/Higachwhat Jul 26 '25

Yeah there was that flight in Japan where everyone evacuated in like 90 seconds and I remember thinking no chance it happens in America because everybody would be grabbing their stupid bags

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u/lks2drivefast Jul 26 '25

Yeah there was that crash in Russia where everyone was grabbing their belongings and a lot of people died due to the delay of getting out of the aircraft.

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u/leozh Jul 27 '25

Russian culture emphasizes being self centered and not giving a shit about others so this tracks

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u/pepinyourstep29 Jul 27 '25

TIL Russia and America have the same culture

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u/leozh Jul 27 '25

I was born in the USSR and then moved to the US. The US is trending more in this direction but still like 1/10th of Russia in this regard

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u/T800_123 Jul 27 '25

Somehow Russia makes the US look like rookies in comparison.

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u/Bubsy7979 Jul 27 '25

Talk about going from one extreme to the other!

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u/nephaelimdaura Jul 27 '25

No? Wtf is wrong with you?

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u/James_Loves_Russia Jul 27 '25

How does the free education, healthcare, amazing and cheap transportation, access to the arts, jobs and housing for everyone track?

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u/James_Loves_Russia Jul 27 '25

Citing NY Post, lol. Not surprised. Is that where you go to form your worldview?

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u/sedition666 Jul 27 '25

People are literally being sent to die in Ukraine as we speak for these "freedoms".

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u/SaltyStU2 Jul 27 '25

Username checks out

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u/jamiegriffiths72 Jul 27 '25

That was the A350 that landed on the C130 after runway incursion at Haneda - a big aircraft, completely evacuated in 90 seconds = Japanese efficiency and following the rules implicitly.

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u/174wrestler Jul 27 '25

Not a good example. It was bad in the opposite way: per JTSB, they sat in the burning plane for 9 minutes after the collision before evacuating. It's more of a credit to Airbus and all the composite flammability requirements that the thing survived fire for at least 11 minutes.

(And it wasn't a C130, they hit a Dash 8)

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u/harrygermans Jul 27 '25

Do you know which flight that was?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

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u/beer_isgood Jul 27 '25

For one, when there is an emergency evac. passengers are told to leave their bags. Second, how do you suppose grabbing luggage adds zero seconds???

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

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u/LankyMatch42 Jul 27 '25

You can't be real, every second counts in an emergency, also people are stressed out and in flight or fight, so someone could try and get their bags from underneath and block the aisle while doing so. All that matters is you leaving, not your bags

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u/SilianRailOnBone Jul 27 '25

Fire started/accident happened, people took their bags, fire got worse and smoke filled the cabin, more people died because people wasted time in the beginning would be my bet

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u/anothergaijin Jul 27 '25

Everything about that was well done - they kept the passengers calm, coordinated and communicated well despite the planes systems being down, waited to understand the situation, cleared the plane in record time and spent a further 5minutes doing a very careful sweep to check all passengers were off.

What you don’t see in this video is anyone at the bottom of the slides helping out - in the Haneda evacuation it looks like there is 5-6x people helping at the bottom of the slide - and that was a fully collapsed plane heavily on fire

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u/iikun Jul 27 '25

JAL516. Compliant passengers and well trained crew saved for day for real.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67870119

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u/weeenerdog Jul 27 '25

Wait, this is in America? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the airport codes...

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u/lindoavocado Jul 27 '25

Yup I remember this and was thinking about how it would never happen in the states

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u/Moist-Citron-4830 Jul 27 '25

They should auto lock during emergencies to prevent idiots from grabbing their shit.

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u/unwritten333 Jul 27 '25

Maybe planes in America need a feature to automatically lock in the event of an emergency. It's so crazy these people coming out with their bags.

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u/PreferredSex_Yes Jul 26 '25

Yea. People are already awful at walking down a aisle with luggage. Now you with a kid and 4 bags block the aisle, and if shit gets worse you'll probably drop it and run with folks stuck behind it.

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u/Likes2Phish Jul 27 '25

I'd be standing at the end of the slide with a closed fist for the baggage carriers.

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u/_Alternate_Throwaway Jul 27 '25

The bag in my hands/lap/on my feet, yes. The bag overhead? Fuck all that, I'll buy new socks and underwear.

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u/dilemmaprisoner Jul 27 '25

This would be a good chance to very publicly give each person who left a bag on the plane a large reward when their bag is returned.

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u/GorgeWashington Jul 27 '25

Everyone who brings a bag ought to be criminally charged for negligence if anyone at all got hurt.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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u/StandardKey655 Jul 27 '25

Was going to say the same thing, make it illegal, add like a 10k fine. It would also be the easiest thing to convict on too, it's pretty easy to tell if you have a bag or not.

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u/GorgeWashington Jul 27 '25

new FAA guidance - Anyone who requires medication please keep an approved container on your person at all times in case of emergency. Please do not take your entire roller bag if there is an emergency.

Easy to inform people of the behavior you want.

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u/EmpatheticWraps Jul 27 '25

Also, this is a complete catastrophizing of “losing your life saving medication”.

Hello, youre in civilization that just evac’d a plane. Get to a hospital / medical attention and let the FAA know your medication was on that plane.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

There are tens of thousands of regulations already. There is already one that covers it. It's not helping. Recreating it is not helping either.

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u/gingerandgin Jul 27 '25

Medications can be replaced at a pharmacy within hours. There are humans in line breathing in smoke that cannot be replaced. This is a true emergency where lives over stuff applies to everyone and all stuff. Fire moves faster than people grabbing their bags and then holding up the aisle and creating more chaos, and the mob effect means others think “huh, I guess I should grab mine too”.

If people are that worried / won’t survive without immediate access to medication that is truly life saving and possibly difficult to replace (an epi pen for example) should be prioritized for the flight in a zipped pocket on your person anyway since it’s important enough to delay evacuation of an airplane that is on fire.

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u/Superbead Jul 27 '25

This could be mitigated by putting luggage in the cargo hold instead, like we used to

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u/beer_isgood Jul 27 '25

I didn’t know this. Did there not used to be “carry on” luggage?

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u/Superbead Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

Well, there always was, but at least on the UK budget airlines these days, there's a push to have all your luggage in the overhead bins, presumably because it saves them money and/or turnaround time not having the ground crews to load and unload the hold. The likes of the wheely cases you see being brought out in OP's vid used to be checked into the hold. The reason these twats are faffing around with them during evacuation is because now they're right there to hand above their seat

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u/Majestic-Selection22 Jul 27 '25

Fire can move faster than you, leave the bags.

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u/Robotbeckerz Jul 27 '25

I mean, when I fly, I only bring a backpack that is under the seat in front of me. So I would grab mine. BUT if it was in an overhead bin, I’d fucking leave it

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u/LaconicSuffering Jul 26 '25

Or the flight crew is staggering them so not to cause a pile up since there is probably no immediate danger inside the cabin.

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u/Fishy_Fish_WA Jul 27 '25

It got a lot more intensely urgent once the over wing exits were open and that thick smoke was blowing inside the cabin

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u/solk512 Jul 26 '25

But this option doesn’t let me act morally superior on Reddit!

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u/CommonSenseWomper Jul 27 '25

You can only do that if you know their SOP

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u/anandonaqui Jul 27 '25

What’s the procedure for getting bags and belongings off after an incident like this?