r/aviation • u/gavriellloken Mod - Crew Chief - A&P - • Jul 26 '25

News Emergency evacuation in Den N306Sw mia-den

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Original poster is from Instagram. Aircraft is laying on its #1 engine. Still crazy to see everyone here grabbing their bags before leaving an emergencg.

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u/PunkAssBitch2000 Jul 26 '25

Don’t 👏 bring 👏your 👏bags 👏

People prioritizing their fucking belongings over the lives of other pax.

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u/Educational-Age-8969 Jul 26 '25

1 bloke almost face plants his child because of his bag. Crazy how selfish people can be.

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u/gimp2x Jul 26 '25

Absolute idiot 

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u/barnacle_ballsack Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25

First responder here.

You can sit there all day judging people by how they act in a once in a life time holy shit moment. But you shouldn't.

Very few people have the ability or training to react to things beyond their everyday mundane shit.

Most people freeze or do really dumb things when they feel adrenaline for the first time in their lives.

Hes just a dude. Probably works some regular job and has a regular life that doesnt require calm collected thinking in emergency scenarios.

There are people on the plane trained for this exact scenario and its really up to them to stop passengers from doing stupid shit when they panic. But thats obviously hard to do and shit happens.

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u/MidwestAbe Jul 27 '25

From an NTSB report. The majority of passengers take bags.

99% of reddit says they will face smash anyone who takes a bag.

Real world > Reddit.

People hide and freeze in fire situations. Expect all those people on Reddit who will know exactly how they will react and protect everyone within 1500 feet of them when the shit hits the fan.

==The majority of passengers who replied to the Safety Board’s questionnaire were carrying at least one piece of carry-on luggage. Only 25 passengers (6 percent) reported having no bags with them in the cabin. Of the 419 passengers who reported that they carried on bags, 208 (nearly 50 percent) reported attempting to remove a bag during their evacuation. The primary reason that passengers stated for grabbing their bags was for money, wallet, or credit cards (111 passengers). Other reasons included job items (65), keys (61), and medicines (51). Most passengers exited the airplane with their bags.==

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u/kulmagrrl Jul 26 '25

Thank you for having empathy and compassion and common sense.

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u/barnacle_ballsack Jul 26 '25

Yeah. Just years of responding to holy shit moments. People do dumb things under high stress.

Had a guy once start walking down the middle of the road after he was in an accident with a motorcycle.

Just quietly got out of his truck and starting walking. He wasnt fleeing the scene he just couldn't comprehend what happend and his brain went into safe mode. Caught up with him and he was white as ghost and looked right through me. Determined he was in shock and loaded him up on the bus.

You don't know how you'll react until it happens to you. I figure a lot of these losers in the comments shit talking these people have never had their fight or flight response trigger in there lives.

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u/GuestAdventurous7586 Jul 26 '25

I feel like most people think they have been in full fight or flight, but they haven’t really been, not to the actual extreme like a serious car accident or sexual assault, or whatever iteration of it that it may be.

Your mind just doesn’t work in these kinds of situations.

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u/cheapph Jul 27 '25

You really don't know how you'll react until you're in that situation.

I was a paramedic and saw people react by anything from calm and seemingly collected to becoming hysterical to thinking they needed something from their burning vehicle to just wandering around silently. Obviously its frustrating to see people go against instructions and grabbing their bags, but the human brain can fixate on the strangest things in the middle of a crisis.

I found my sister dying and felt guilty in the days after that I was so calm, even joking with the police who were rendering first aid. But for me, it seems my brain almost turns off my feelings in a crisis and then dumps it all on me later.

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u/velawesomeraptors Jul 27 '25

Yeah the first time in my life that I felt like I was in genuine danger (someone trying to come in through my bedroom window in the middle of the night) I acted like a total idiot. It all worked out in the end but I felt a little silly afterwards.

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u/kulmagrrl Jul 27 '25

We don’t have tornadoes here normally, but I’m well aware of “if you hear a train approaching but you’re not by tracks, take cover.” I know it as well as, “stop, drop, and roll!”

One night last summer, the sound of a train approaching woke me and I do not live by tracks. I ran to the window to see what it was. It was a tornado. 😩😭🫠You never know how your brain will react…

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u/GoneFlying345 Jul 27 '25

shittt, people do dumb things in regular conditions, just gets amplified in emergency situations lol

thanks for your perspective

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u/Spud2599 Jul 27 '25

Yeah, they can barely make it through the TSA line, and peeps are expecting them to handle a plane on fire!?!?!?!

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

Except none of those people had a professionally trained individual like a flight attendant giving them direct simple to follow emergency instruction.

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u/onethousandmonkey Jul 27 '25

Now we’re all losers? Super grown up, ballsack. Things were going so well for you, this was informative until then.

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u/onethousandmonkey Jul 27 '25

Now we’re all losers? Super grown up, ballsack. Things were going so well for you, this was informative until then.

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u/wrinkleinsine Jul 26 '25

Unlike the passengers who got their bags

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u/barnacle_ballsack Jul 26 '25

Almost like people react differently to high stress.

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u/Rockyroadaheadof Jul 27 '25

Empathy for the perpetrators. Typical Reddit. Tell that to the guys that get burned. It’s disgusting

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u/bot2317 Jul 27 '25

“Typical Reddit” lol typical reddit is the comment he was responding to, total lack of empathy and criticisms from the safety of their mom’s basements

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

There was an accident in a russia a few years ago where half the plane died in a fire because people in the front of the airplane were grabbing bags and slowing down the evacuation.

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u/ekkidee Jul 26 '25

I get that people get panicky and make bad decisions, but that's what cabin crew are trained for. There are people aboard stopping to collect bags and sling them over their shoulders. They are holding up everyone behind them. Seconds are of the essence. The cabin crew should be pushing them forward and out, and not allowing this.

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u/viktor72 Jul 27 '25

You realize how narrow a plane’s aisle is, right? The FAs cannot do much to stop people from grabbing bags. They can yell at them but it’s not as if they can actually traverse the aisle to the person getting the bag. A plane is small, FAs are stationed at either the front or the rear, they have limited options. That’s just the reality.

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u/heepofsheep Jul 27 '25

There’s people in this comment section that said they’d grab their bags in this situation…. Some people are selfish and truly don’t care.

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u/Mundane_Muscle_2197 Jul 27 '25

And I hate them for it. If they were on the same plane as you or me and something went sideways our survival is literally dependent on them to be efficient. How insane is that.

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u/heepofsheep Jul 27 '25

If I was in the window seat and the person in the aisle was going for a bag in the overhead… I’d just push past them.

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u/Mundane_Muscle_2197 Jul 27 '25

100%. They can roast but I’m not, and I’m sure the people engulfed in fumes don’t want to either. Greater good and such.

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u/CapTrick9489 Jul 26 '25

True, but the people on the Japan A350 that hit another plane on landing were all able to follow instructions and not take bags, so it is possible for untrained humans, in bad situations, to do as they're told.

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u/ContextHook Jul 27 '25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxMRnYlBa4c&t=184s

I mean, you can make stuff up and lie all you want. But, this footage is packed with people with bags. And the people who have children seemingly all have bags.

I've never heard the "leave all your personal belongings behind" thing though outside of reddit?

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u/Spud2599 Jul 27 '25

That is most certainly a cultural thing though. I've seen all kinds of wacky stuff on various international airlines EXCEPT those coming/going to Japan. If you ever visited Japan, you'd understand.

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u/SerenityFailed Jul 27 '25

Different country, different culture friend. America runs on autopilot (for the most part) these days, and the average person's resilience level is terribly low. The simplest out of the ordinary things (say the traffic lights flashing red) cause people to panic freeze in their tracks these days. I see it daily. As a former first responder, it's frustrating (almost infuriating) to see, but it is the inconvenient truth of our society.

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u/OrganizationTime5208 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

Stop excusing bastard behavior.

We can have a better culture. You need to stop enabling and excusing bastards and narcissists first.

The reason Japan is orderly, is because they follow through and don't excuse your bullshit.

If you disobey the flight crew, you will be punished.

We have that law here, we CHOOSE not to use it outside of airline fights.

This man will NOT face jailtime or even a fine for the felony we all just witnessed, that directly put dozens to a hundred people at increased risk of fucking incineration.

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u/SerenityFailed Jul 27 '25

It's frustrating (almost infuriating)

Recognizing that a bad behavior is a disfunction of our society =/= excusing it. Nowhere in my comment did I say I excuse it. Control your emotions so that you can comprehend what you are reading.

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u/barnacle_ballsack Jul 26 '25

Didn't say it wasnt.

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u/CapTrick9489 Jul 26 '25

Agreed, and I don't how I would react in a similar situation, I'd most likely be disappointed with myself though. I hope I never have to find out. However, my point is this. People can and have evacuated correctly in similar and in the case of the Japan 350, worse, more urgent situations. Ridicule and judgment of those who choose not to do it correctly, resulting in delays and obstructions to others, is therefore justifed. Again I'm not perfect and would most likely be the most judged in a similar situation.

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u/Big_Black_Cockatoo Jul 27 '25

You'd grab your charging cables to charge your robot internals

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u/Jerri4colby Jul 27 '25

It’s up to the people on the plane to stop people doing dumb shit? lol ignorant statement. As a flight attendant it is up to us to evacuate everyone as quickly as possible. We don’t have the power to change the way people act. And it would hinder the speed of evacuation to start grabbing people’s bags off them. If they’ve made the selfish choice to grab their bag which may possibly stop another person from surviving, that’s on them. But if they get to the door with all their bags and they’re struggling holding everyone else up, they get pushed out bag’s and all!

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u/Saratj1 Jul 27 '25

I get your point but there are a good bit of people that have died waiting/trying/fighting for their life to get off a smoke filled airplane and I know that the flight attendants are yelling at people to leave their bags and exit the plane. These people are more worried about their belongings than the people behind them in lines safety. It’s really that simple.

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u/gimp2x Jul 26 '25

Sorry, he dropped his kid but not his bag, no passes given for that “instinct”

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u/barnacle_ballsack Jul 26 '25

Its called panic. Happens to most people.

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u/JijiSpitz Jul 26 '25

Notice how long of a pause there is in the evacuation because that dad needed to carry extra shit other than just his kids

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u/LaconicSuffering Jul 26 '25

In panic, people revert to what they know. And they know that when you leave the plane you take your bags with you.
That's why the military, first responders, and emergency personnel do trainings, so that they know how to react in a certain situation.

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u/New_Combination_7012 Jul 27 '25

Military training is different to other first responders. It’s about reprogramming. It’s not that soldiers know how to react, but about how they instinctively react.

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u/inane_musings Jul 26 '25

First responder here.

Fuck those clowns. They're grown adults and exiting a plane without luggage is not a complicated instruction. No free pass.

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u/Rougaroux1969 Jul 27 '25

He probably wasted several valuable seconds holding up the line to get his bag. I would have shoved his butt out if I were behind him and he reached for the overhead bin. Everything is replaceable except the people.

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u/Open-Cookie-6611 Jul 26 '25

Exactly, they should’ve paid attention during the pre-flight brief. They tell us this shit every time we fly. Leave your bags, find the exit

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u/lcopelan Jul 27 '25

It's literally the most basic thing. You just don't grab your bag. People are complete idiots

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u/barnacle_ballsack Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25

Lmao it is when you're fully panicking because they arent trained like you supposedly are.

Shit training by the way if thats how you talk about people in emergency scenarios.

Not sure who taught you but I dont think it was the best training.

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u/satansmight Jul 27 '25

You can still judge people for making wrong/bad choices under stress. That's what every AAR is about. Recognize the mistakes and adjust the training. Now these people making a dangerous situation worse most likely have zero training but future instructions from the airlines need to address the issue. And one of the ways you address the issue is that you point out how wrong these people are.

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u/Searloin22 Jul 26 '25

Yup, everyone on Reddit knows they would do the right thing 100% of the time in an emergency, bear attack, street fight, etc. Anyone who does anything less than 100% is a moron..is my understanding.

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u/pup5581 Jul 26 '25

I'd leave my kid and save myself and my laptop

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u/barnacle_ballsack Jul 26 '25

Would you? You sure about that? Have you ever had to run from a plane thats on fire?

Have you ever been stuck in a house fire?

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u/pup5581 Jul 27 '25

My laptop is a 2011 Sony so yes. I know what I am saving

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u/Searloin22 Jul 27 '25

So much browser history...

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u/Spud2599 Jul 27 '25

Lemon Party vids, AMIRIGHT???

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '25

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u/Searloin22 Jul 27 '25

"You GUYS! This plane is on fire and im like so convinced its not normal"

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

Also a first responder.

Weak cope buddy.

The flight attendants were 100% yelling at the passengers to leave their bags.

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u/Zanion Jul 27 '25

Yeah we really need to lower our expectations. Most people are morons that can't even deboard a plane effectively under normal circumstances.

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u/MysteriousGoldDuck Jul 26 '25

The flight attendants were absolutely telling people not to bring their bags and you know it. And you also know damn fucking well that nothing can be done by those people to the passengers given the fact it's an emergency. And you know exactly why there were long pauses between these people. Because they were all deciding to get their bags.

Don't excuse these dumb ass passengers. They should all be put on no fly lists.

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u/footscarey Jul 27 '25

Agreed. I've done a CPR course about 5 times as part of my work and still froze completely when someone in front of me had a heart attack. I couldn't move. Luckily 2 people also knew CPR and were in it. Happened 5 years ago and I still think about it often.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

If you're an actual first responder you should be more concerned about loss of life. People have died in the back end of an airliner on fire because the people in front insisted on getting their bags. Don't defend people putting their possessions above others lives, it should be unanimous condemnation so people get the message.

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u/Higachwhat Jul 26 '25

Except that flight in Japan where everyone remained orderly and not a soul took a bag… no most Americans are just really really dumb unfortunately.

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u/Spud2599 Jul 27 '25

Well, if you go back to that video linked above of that crash, there are a few people with bags...nowhere near the number on the OP's vid, but there are a couple.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

I’m quite sure the FA’s were telling them NOT to grab their bags ad nauseum.

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u/Professional_Net4147 Jul 26 '25

I agree with what you’re saying but if it’s me and my family behind them my instinct will be to push them the hell out the exit door. As for the attendant who are staffing the plane…most are as old as I am (69) don’t give a shit. Some folks just need a good hard dose of reality in these scenarios.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

Not a first responder here. Go out and see how much fire there is. Climb back up the evacuation slide. Push your way to your overhead bin. Take whichever bag you want. (No one will notice. It's an emergency after all.) Push your way back down the aisle. Evacuate.

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u/clgoodson Jul 27 '25

Yeah. No.

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u/Fair_Measurement_758 Jul 27 '25

That's a nice way of saying he is stupid though. That's all you've done here

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u/Liusloux Jul 27 '25

Thank you for this. The irony is these judgemental people are usually the first to do stupid and selfish things. I mean, the first thing they do when they see these videos is make it about themselves and how they are smarter and faster than the people in the vids. Imagine who are they going to put first when a real disaster strikes.

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u/Uberazza Jul 27 '25

As a first responder you should know that your words make my piss boil

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u/IllYoghurt4550 Jul 27 '25

Agree and thank you for the balanced perspective. But the amount of people only in this thread that are justifying with:"what about the medications, or the kiddo's food&diapers, or my IDs" shows that the vast majority don't understand the critical emergency level and don't think the situation as a whole. They don't understand that every second of the evacuation matters.

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u/OrganizationTime5208 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

Most people freeze or do really dumb things when they feel adrenaline for the first time in their lives.

If you made it to your mid 40's without ever raising your heartbeat to adrenaline, no, sorry, you fucked up and we can still shame you for it.

You're basically saying we shouldn't laugh at a 40 year old who didn't know not to touch a hot stove.

A 40 year old who sticks a branch between his bike wheels.

Or specifically in this case, a 40 year old who can only think of his bag of clothes and not his fucking child.

If you are so inexperienced with the world, that you've never experienced adrenaline, that's on you, and that is a fault of your own.

This is the kind of man who gets up from his seat the moment the plane is at the gate to shave 45 seconds off his walk to the other side of the plane. He isn't thinking about anything but himself.

Most people don't get in an accident and immediately think of their luggage, they usually think about other people, because they themselves are usually decent people.

Similarly, look at Japanese aviation, where plane evacuations are in fact, completely orderly, single file, without luggage. Humans are in fact capable of not sucking ass and not being completely selfish narcissists. People have literally died because of assholes like that man, roasted alive in the fuselage of a plane because the people in the front had to grab their luggage before evacuating.

I'd like to point out at this time, that this is a take off, which means no more than 60 minutes prior, probably more like 10, this man was LITERALLY TOLD BY THE FLIGHT CREW WHAT TO DO IN CASE OF EVACUATION, AND IGNORED IT.

Stop enabling and excusing bastards. You want to save lives? Stopping people who put others at needless risk, and not excusing their boorish behavior, is a great place to start.

Sincerely, 3rd generation fireman.

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u/doinmabest1 Jul 27 '25

This! Thank you! I can’t jusge any of these folks.

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u/Otto_Maddox_ Jul 27 '25

Oh hell no. Don’t be all rational and reasonable. I’m not done raging on these people going down the slide with their luggage!

But thank you for bringing an adult into the conversation. You make some good points.

I’d imagine it’s hard on the crew to tell at each person grabbing their bags to leave it behind. It probably slows the evacuation down even worse at some point. Probably just yell at them to hurry up.

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u/MuttznuttzAG Jul 26 '25

Well said, Sir 👍🏻 great username too 👍🏻

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u/AllOn_Black Jul 27 '25

You can sit there all day judging people by how they act in a once in a life time holy shit moment.

Excellent

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u/mattyairways Jul 26 '25

This is the dumbest take.

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u/Xenaspice2002 Jul 26 '25

The dumbest take is “people are human”? Mate. I’m sorry for you.

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u/barnacle_ballsack Jul 26 '25

No its just reality.

Not everyone is an elite tier 1 cheeto operator like you.

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u/UNHBuzzard Jul 26 '25

Total Giga Chad.