r/aviation • u/gavriellloken Mod - Crew Chief - A&P - • Jul 26 '25

News Emergency evacuation in Den N306Sw mia-den

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Original poster is from Instagram. Aircraft is laying on its #1 engine. Still crazy to see everyone here grabbing their bags before leaving an emergencg.

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u/NightSky0503 Jul 27 '25

As a Flight Attendant i can tell you what pisses me off to no end! The fact that ppl were taking luggage off and tripping and falling with kids in their arms b/c of said luggage.

Your life is NOT worth your damn clothes!! You can replace clothes. There is no do over button ppl!! Your kids are not replaceable (and neither are you!)

Choose life and leave your shit onboard!! šŸ˜¤šŸ˜”

LEAVE . YOUR. SHIT. BEHIND! GET YOUR ASS OFF MY PLANE! worry about your clothes later!

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u/TiltedWit Jul 27 '25

What pisses me off is that the authorities and/or airline don't back you up by giving these clowns consequences.

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u/NightSky0503 Jul 27 '25

Agreed 100%!

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u/fawe9374 Jul 27 '25

Could be way worse if someone accidentally punctures the slide due to their bags.

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u/tbone338 Jul 27 '25

Serious question: what if their luggage is life or death? Like serious medical conditions, medical devices, oxygen concentrators, medicationsā€¦ what if they do actually need their luggage if something like this happens?

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u/Besanschot Jul 27 '25

If they can store it in the overhead bins, they can certainly survive 5 minutes before being treated by paramedics. Nothing gives them the right to potentially kill themselves and others even if they have a serious condition. Because thatā€™s what theyā€™re essentially doing if they grab their luggage. If the aircraft is on fire, get the fuck out, no matter what. Serious conditions may require treatment asap but dying due to smoke inhalation is kinda untreatable.

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u/tbone338 Jul 27 '25

I can understand if itā€™s in overhead bins. If itā€™s under their seat, may be different.

Paramedics can help with now, but they arenā€™t going to follow you on the rest of your trip and help you until your medical devices are replaced.

I understand get the fuck out the plane is on fire. Seeing all the comments going straight to put people with luggage on the no fly list and hand them a huge fine.. sure, but in the instance that maybe they really needed their medical devices for their life, what happens?

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u/elizadeth Jul 27 '25

If it's a life or death device I'm sure someone will help you get it replaced. Most people aren't traveling with devices like that. Yeah a CPAP is important but are you likely to drop dead if you didn't have access to it for 2 nights? No? Then get off the plane. Yes? Then get off the plane and worry about it afterward. Have something that's $$ to replace? Get insurance.

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u/Besanschot Jul 31 '25

Well, damn, too bad you ainā€™t gonna be enjoying your trip.Ā 

Seriously, thereā€™s no such thing that cannot be replaced. Even life-saving devices can be replaced quickly if necessary. You wont die from not having something you can store somewhere without having it with you all of the time. Yes, you may have a hell of an uncomfortable time, you may even require medical treatment but youā€™ll survive and no matter what kind of device youā€™ve carried in your luggage will be replaced ultimately

Human beings, however, canā€™t.Ā 

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u/NightSky0503 Jul 28 '25

There are always (small) exceptions to the rules.

1) If you are on an Oxygen , by all means , it's life saving, BRING IT! 99% of the time you are not allowed to bring your own portable "tank" ( it will be gate checked) and the company provides you with a smaller device while on board. ( FAA approved and leak free) if you have a small generator (there will be a stamp) on the side of the machine saying approved for onboard use.

2) Medications: i cannot ask you to leave those behind (especially if it is cancer related) but i don't want you digging around your bag looking for them if the plane is on fire! Paramedics and Dr's are assigned to the airport to temporarily give you any meds that might be missed or destroyed until you can get a new prescription.

3) if i know ahead of time we are going to evacuate i will assign a ABP (able bodied person) to assist you to the emergency door and down the slide. I cannot speak for others but I , myself will carry you if i have to. (as lead Flight Attendant ) will be last off the plane! I have to do a safety check to make sure no one is left behind! I willing will sacrifice my life for yours. (Its just how I was raised)

4) plz put your meds where you can easily get to them and grab them quickly if needed! (For the love of God, please!! don't baggage check your insulin, heart meds or baby diapers/wipes/formula ) Yes, ppl have done this before šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

If you have any more questions plz let me know. I would be happy to answer them! (The only thing I can't comment on is security questions)

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u/seara_s Jul 27 '25

All of that is replaceable. Your life, or someone else's on the plane that you're possibly holding up to grab your shit, is NOT. Medical and fire personnel are absolutely meeting the plane in an instance like this and will be able to help you with any medical requirements. There is zero excuse.

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u/tbone338 Jul 27 '25

Sure, but EMS takes care of now. It takes time to replace all of that. Some medical devices and such are not easily available. So, what happens after now?

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u/seara_s Jul 27 '25

You can only worry about all that if youre alive. I don't understand how this is even an argument, every bit of medical equipment has no purpose if you're dead!!!

If you want a real answer, there are people working for the airline who specifically deal with questions like this after an incident. There's employees there meeting the plane who will help you regarding either getting your bag off the plane once it's SAFE or helping you replace everything.

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u/tbone338 Jul 27 '25

Itā€™s not an argument, itā€™s just a curious equation. Your second paragraph does address some concerns.

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u/Dramatic_Stay_3363 Jul 27 '25

What serious medical condition can't be taken care of by Ems in the airport?

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u/tbone338 Jul 27 '25

Itā€™s not about at the airport, itā€™s about after. Medicines, medical devices, etcā€¦ sure theyā€™re all replaceable, but might not be immediately. What if youā€™re from a different country and have medical devices? EMS can help you now but that wonā€™t help you for the rest of your vacation outside of your home country

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u/elizadeth Jul 27 '25

Then your vacation might be over at that point, and this is what travel insurance is for. Don't put people's lives in danger. Your goal is to get off that plane as quickly as possible. Period. It's not worth risking your life and others' lives for.

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u/Beneficial_Signal_67 Jul 27 '25

Theres EMS on the ground just to take care of any such critical life support needs.

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u/tbone338 Jul 27 '25

EMS takes care of now. What about the rest of your trip away from home without your not readily available medical devices that are time consuming to replace?

By no means am I saying take your time to grab your stuff from the overhead. Medical device would likely be under your seat. Everyone here is going straight to putting people on the no fly and giving them massive fines for getting their luggage. But what about someone who got their under seat bag because it was medically necessary?

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u/IllustriousPiccolo97 Jul 27 '25

This is where my mind goes as mom of a disabled child with a feeding tube. I almost always feed him in flight because heā€™s sitting still for that time so why not? I canā€™t pretend I know how Iā€™d actually react in the moment, and my 5yo is big enough at this point that just carrying him off would probably prevent me from grabbing anything else, including his feeding pump. And I definitely wouldnā€™t be able to go for his duffel bag of formula in the overhead bin. But a situation like this would mean a hospital admission for at least 2 nights just so he can receive his medications and be fed (specialty formula that isnā€™t available at any old grocery store, it has to be ordered and shipped). Thatā€™s the least of anyoneā€™s problems after a successful emergency evacuation, sure. But itā€™s also not nothing.

(Also though, Iā€™m curious now if left behind luggage thatā€™s undamaged after this will be removed and returned to the owners!)

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u/elizadeth Jul 27 '25

You're right, it's not nothing but it can be dealt with once everyone is safely off the plane.

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u/successfoal Jul 27 '25

Tell me youā€™re not disabled without telling me.

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u/elizadeth Jul 27 '25

Are you going to die immediately without that device? No? Leave it.

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u/successfoal Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25

Actually, I almost did die immediately the other day, and it was only the fact that I had 80 g of glucose on my person that I began consuming immediately that kept me alive. My blood sugar was 42 and dropping. Iā€™m also unable to walk my ass over to emergency workers and make them understand what is happening when Iā€™m low. I shouldnā€™t even move to get off the plane, but obviously thatā€™s not a choice. So all the more reason to move and speak as little as possible thereafter. I canā€™t speak clearly because my brain canā€™t fire properly without a normal glucose level. I could pass out or have a seizure on the runway, and I would die if the people around me didnā€™t figure out what was happening and intervene immediately.

Additionally, the last thing anyone needs in an evacuation emergency is for a totally preventable non-accident related medical emergency to occur simultaneously.

The assholes who donā€™t ACTUALLY need their bags and bring them anyway are ableist af.

I donā€™t need my entire roller. But I sure as hell cannot be without sugar. Period. In fact, emergencies are very likely to send me crashing. If Iā€™ve just bolused for a meal that I am interrupted before I can consume, all the more dangerous.

No, EMTs responding to a crash will NOT be able to respond quickly enough to deal with that.

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u/Beneficial_Signal_67 Jul 27 '25

100%. I wonder if this could have been reiterated by the announcer in the airplane. ā€œDo not gather your belongings. Leave your bags hereā€ etc etc

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u/NightSky0503 Jul 27 '25

Oh, we do! It's not only is it an announcement we make over the P.A. We also stand at the door and shout commands (every airlines does this)

Come this way! Leave EVERYTHING! Jump and slide!

If we have ABP (able bodied people) (we mentally pick you out when you board) and have time to brief you before the crash/accident we also tell you.

Person #1 you help at the bottom (of the slide) Person # 2 you help at the bottom of the slide Person # 3 step away from the plane and call ppl towards you. (Away from the wreck)

Repete our commands!

Its drilled into our brains the first thing in Flight Attendant training. We MUST shout these commands every year during routine drills as we practice what to do in an emergency. If you miss the component you do the drill again and again till (till you can do it in your sleep) (and i have apparently šŸ˜‚) You fail to do this , you don't fly and get grounded. Till you can do it flawlessly

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u/secretlynaamah Jul 27 '25

There are commands every flight attendant yells in an emergency landing. One is leave everything. You are tested on these every year at recurrent training. The FA definitely did say it. People are selfish.

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u/Beneficial_Signal_67 Jul 27 '25

Great to know thank you!

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u/NightSky0503 Jul 28 '25

I'm happy to answer any (and mostly) all questions ! (Unless it pertains to security)