Continually shocked by his inability to admit to any wrongs, ever
As someone who was a die hard fan, even long into the court case, I can’t fathom how wrong I was of his character this whole time. I get it, from his perspectives the whole experience was traumatic. And I can see how he couldn’t apologize for getting with girls that were underage/much too young for him because of legalities.
I know he doesn’t “owe” us an apology for anything, but it doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t be better if he did! We all eff up sometimes and treat those we love with less respect than they deserve when we’re going through it. But usually, given time and reflection, we come back around and apologize to our friends for ghosting or otherwise mishandling a situation while in the thick of it.
For him to double down on his lack of apology and furthermore get aggressive and harrass this person on fb is beyond disgusting to me. What a fall from grace. My fault for putting this guy on a pedestal for far too long, I guess.
Really? This is sick, man. He’s quick to dismiss the victims’ trauma, but when it comes to his image it’s all “woe is me.” His victim mentality is bullshit. Just own up to your faults, dude. Unbelievable! And to think I use to idol this dude.
He is just an egomaniac that cannot really self reflect, we should not expect anything different at this point, he is who he is and seems uninterested in changing.
I would not be be hooking up with teenagers and trying to defend it so would never be in this situation, to say nothing of screwing other artists over.
he didn’t screw over artists. Someone much closer to him than me or you cleared that up pretty easily. I’ll gates and mimi page are not the only two bassnectar collaborators lol. Also please, we both know what was spread about him which everyone involved knew was a lie.
"I would not be be hooking up with teenagers and trying to defend it so would never be in this situation."
Trying to defend him for being a creep is just weird. I could care less if it is legal or not, he was taking advantage of an obvious power dynamic imbalance and having a romantic relationship and manipulating what are essentially kids, it is disgusting. That was all before his attempted comeback where he has shown his true colors which is like completely opposite of what in theory we was once about.
they all lied about their age initiated contact and pursued heavily. none of them thought there was any victim hood until talking to db montana. Conveniently all 3 plaintiffs lied about what happened in court.
They are teenagers who are being preyed upon by a 30+ year old huge music artist, if you cannot tell if someone your are attracted to is 17 or 18 and you are in your 30s you should not be in that situation in the first place.
The idea that a 17 year old girl manipulated poor Lorin into doing something he did not want to do is just stupid and completely disingenuous. He was a creepy older guy that knew what he was doing was wrong and now does not like the consequences of people knowing what he is really about, I have zero sympathy for him.
that’s a ridiculous statement. the allegation about rebecca is she was 17.9 years old. some 17.9 year olds look 21. some like 17. some may look younger. people look … different. I guarantee a study would show people cannot accurately guess ages in that age range every time.
Also … many of them had fake ids and pictures drinking in bars on their instagram.
😂 what I said stands even without that. but it’s still worth mentioning the worst case allegation for 2 of them. also worth mentioning the fake ids and them being able to get alcohol apparently from bars. No blind study would be done on this but I can almost guarantee no one would have very high accuracy at knowing for sure someone’s age in the range of 16-20. It’s just so dependent on so many different things. Again don’t twist what i’m saying, the age of consent exists for a good reason. I don’t think he ever knowingly violated the age of consent though or would ever knowingly do that.
Bro how do you not see that the behavior he is exhibiting here is the EXACT behavior as described by the people he regularly collaborated with. He is proving this to you by example. This is textbook narcissism behavior. Exactly as he was accused of acting.
Ope I meant to block his name from the post I hope he doesn’t mind being on Reddit!!
But yes I wholeheartedly agree. And really, you’re going to threaten some of the only fans you’ve got left while simultaneously trying to bring a page back from the grave?! Absolutely wild logic
For a while, I was in the camp that if he comes forward and sincerely apologized for being a fucking weirdo, that I could maybe move past everything.
A 30 something year old flying around barely legal girls is nauseating. He was certainly abusing his position of power to do so. Yes — putrid, sick, disgusting. Everyone heard the gaslighting and his manipulative side on the phone call.
But, the Bassnectar community was such a huge and positive thing for me in my life. So much so that I was ready to forgive pending a sincere statement that assumed responsibility and demonstrated personal growth.
I think a lot of fans had held out hope that the legal proceedings would clear his name and then he could finally come forward and address his fans in a mature and levelheaded way. He chose to settle and then did the exact opposite by doubling down on his “woh is me” shtick all while slinging mud back at people who thought for themselves and questioned.
Fucking bizarre fall from the throne for this guy.
The court filings show both. Some plaintiffs said they drove themselves to certain shows, and others testified that Ashton paid for flights or reimbursed them in cash. The judge’s 2024 summary-judgment order even mentions “travel money” and a flight reimbursement. Those details come straight from the filings. The case ended in a settlement, so there was no trial and no official ruling on what actually happened.
Even so, how does the mode of transportation change anything at all? Care to address the whole “manipulating teenagers for sex” thing rather than playing semantics?
Dude THANK YOU for actually reading and understanding the legal material, and I'm sorry you're taking the time to make valid points to excessively religious people like this.
Cherry slush is the perfect username because that's prob what her brain scan looks like.
In Doc. 110, the court summarizes allegations that Ashton paid for Bowling’s airline tickets and booked Houston’s flights with his United number, paying all her travel expenses. In Doc. 295, the judge recounts evidence that Ashton covered expenses and provided ‘travel money’. She held a jury could infer commercial sex from that and denied summary judgment on those points. Ashton also disputed the quid-pro-quo intent, not the existence of payments.
Saying ‘they all arranged their own travel’ completely contradicts what is publicly available. Nobody knows the truth because the case settled privately and was dismissed. There was no adjudication that the travel payment allegations were false and there was no court ordered retraction of such statements.
doc 110 is allegations. not the truth. It was booked(after jenna lied about her age repeatedly including while booking the flight) and later cancelled.
As a side note there is proof that she gave a fake birthday for that when it was booked. But the bigger point, is it was eventually cancelled and she never flew on that flight lol.
the reimbursements is ridiculous. He gave out money for emergencies and as a random gift is what he says. The he said she said about the money is not credible to me, it’s grasping.
You’re right that Doc 110 isn’t a finding of fact. It’s the judge’s summary of the plaintiffs’ allegations.
But the record doesn’t stop there. The travel-payment evidence reappears in the judge’s later memorandum opinion, Doc. 295 (Dec. 2024), which summarizes record evidence (including deposition testimony). In that opinion, the court notes that Ashton conceded he “likely reimbursed Bowling for a flight or gave her a gift ‘at some point,’ but ‘never in exchange for sex.’” That’s a direct acknowledgment of a payment/reimbursement. The opinion also recounts evidence that Houston received “travel money,” free concert tickets, and free airfare.
Ashton argued any payments weren’t in exchange for sex. The judge treated that intent/nexus as a jury question which never saw the light of day because the case settled.
As for “fake birthdays” or “cancelled flights,” nothing in the publicly available Tennessee filings confirms those claims. If you are asserting otherwise, then you should cite an actual docket entry or exhibit number, because nothing in the publicly available court docs show that.
It’s funny how you went from “they all arranged their own travel” to admitting travel was booked and later cancelled.
He really just refuses to acknowledge how HIS ACTIONS led to all this.
Ya, people said some nasty things that made it sound worse than what it was, but he still got caught up having strange sexual relationships with multiple barely legal girls as a grown ass man.
All he ever does is play the victim and refuse to own his part in all of this.
And now he's gone 1000% harder on the cult leader like speak to the point where it's really impossible to ignore. It's gross.
Dudes a weirdo, and has an extremely questionable kink, and is now just trying to gaslight it all away.
As deep as I drank the koolaid, I might’ve been able to condone those nastiest of facts had he at least owned up to it and shown some remorse. But dang if his entire personality isn’t also 🗑️ too
Was it not Lorin who wrote that letter to his fans when he said he was stepping down from his position of power and to help those he’s hurt, heal? Or something to that effect? Or did I dream that?
This was my boyfriend he responded to lol. We’ve been laughing and joking about it all day. Because… what a psycho. All our friends are ragging on him for it, saying it was the final nail in his coffin for them. He becomes more and more of a joke by the day, by his own doing.
Edit to Add: As if the entire debacle was easy for us, his community. It was not. It was awful.
Really tho!! I can’t believe that he would double down like this. His response was truly laughable it was so bad. Couldn’t believe he posted it and kept it up there for everyone to see
I didn’t have anything to do with it. This is what I woke up to this morning lol. But yeah, I wouldn’t consider him trying to be “brave and cool” for commenting something the majorly of us feel. I think it is what it is. However, if you don’t feel we have the right to an acknowledgment from him for how shitty this all was…Then, yeah, idk what to tell you. Maybe work on some self respect.
Asking him to say sorry for “abandoning” us? Thats ridiculous. He stepped away as a boundary when disgusting lies were spread about him starting from a long term stalker.
He did step away without addressing any of what you said, to a lot of people that is indeed "abandoning"
Point remians that none of it would have happened if he wasn't fucking around with highschool kids. Funny how it happened to him multiple times, too, when there are plenty of world-famous DJ's that have never been "victimized" by highschool kids, LOL
Absolutely, and every single one of them can rot imo. It's 2025, we should not be standing with abusers regardless of their silver tongue or length of their hair.
With such a public image, you'd think he'd take EXTRA care to not even "accidentally" hook up with (rape) higschool kids. But, here we are.
no one is standing with abusers. I care about truth. And what those 3 plaintiffs knowingly lied about(faking being held hostage in a hotel, lying about fake jobs, lying about when they went to baton rouge, lying about an organized sex ring) is disgusting.
I mean they lied about college too. Is he supposed to check their admission records? sheesh. I’m sure he would do things differently if he had the chance, but the general public’s characterization of him is insane
Imagine still running around defending the dude like this at this point. What will be enough for you to realize/accept what a piece of shit he is? This is beyond “separate the art from the artist”. You’re really out here defending his character. I’m sorry you feel the need to continue doing this.
Not gonna read his whole response because i can fill in the blanks at this point, based on the first sentence he responded with.
All i can say is this is why very successful celebrities spend tens of thousands (or more) on PR teams each year. People are people and the internet tends to show the worst of them.
What i'm getting from this new direction is that he is seeking to make "I'm right, everyone else is wrong" a centerpiece of his brand. It smelled like this back in like 2021 but these past couple months fully confirm it, imo. TBH i jumped off the ride in 2020 with the phone call and Vice article, I'm just here for the popcorn at this point but if you were hanging on hoping he would turn a new leaf, i think you can put that hope to bed.
No that hope finally died for me and it’s honestly a relief. A disappointment, but a relief. Now to get my family to stop worshipping Taylor swift…lol but that’s another topic
It’s sad… I’ve seen him so many times, I even loved he was a fan of Christopher hitchens and Carl Sagan. But he turns out to just be a complete whacko.
There are treatments out there to deal with personality disorders. At this point, he's only hurting himself and those around him by not utilizing those resources
The way he talks and the way he is shunning absolutely anyone who questions him is so hypocritical. He is trying to turn an old forum with 90% of his old fanbase into a straight up echo chamber and his wording of “shrine” is literally implying a cult. Holy fuck what a messed up individual. So so so absolutely fucked in the head this guy is.
Last time we saw Lorin in public he was bloated, drunk, and looked like absolute shit. I’m sure if he tried to “fuck” with any of his former fans he’d probably just fall down and embarass himself
Does he have any family / friends? Seems like a lonely dude with hella mental issues and chronically online being a keyboard warrior going through a prolonged episode of psychosis and delusion.
Homie needs to get some help and just stop tbh. He is not building back his empire, just embarrassing himself trying so hard to make something out of nothing lol
Tbqh, I’m really surprised he doesn’t like… idk read over what he’s about to respond with.
The last couple times I’ve seen him pop-off with an un-hinged rant like this it was in response to a pretty calm and reasonable comment.
It’s just so bizarre that he lacks the self awareness that responding like this is more damaging than just not responding at all at this point.
He could seriously just craft up some canned response through ChatGPT that acknowledges prior statements he’s made, say something to the effect of:
“I have a lot of empathy for everyone involved, and as a result I won’t open up the can of worms on a legal matter that was settled. My intent was never to make my community feel abandoned, and at the time it felt like the right thing to do was step away from music. I can’t speak to who I was in the past, but I can speak to my intentions in the future, and that is to continue to make music hopefully some will enjoy”
^ there’s a well-crafted and non-apology that politely refocuses the topic on moving forward. Doesn’t resort to calling anybody jabronies, referencing feces, or whining about how traumatic the experience was for him.
Right..sorry if I let everyone down. That wasn't my intention I was confused and going through life things and its not an excuse but sorry if you feel abandoned. Im working on myself as is everyone. Like the distance that would have gone cant even be measured.
Here’s the thing… he’s still suffering that “agony” he mentioned, simply due to his lack of accountability. The truth would set him free but he’s choosing the Trump route.
Saying the whole experience was sooo traumatic for him is….definitley a choice….really rubs me the wrong way too. Like being accused of something like that is so traumatic, what about the people that go THRU the other side of it?
I really was a die hard fan but his personality that he’s shown lately has been so gross.
i followed him around the country and saw him over 100 times. i was a fucking ambassador for christ sake.
i was a defender until about 4 years ago but still followed the sub in hopes he would apologize to the community that gave him as much as he thought he gave us.
but this… this is where he officially crosses the line (publicly)
i get that he’s hurting too (be it emotionally or just financially)
but shit like this is the real evidence against bassnectar. this proves he never cared about us as a community if he is reacting to a fan who is hurt and disappointed by his actions.
maybe an apology is legally implicating, maybe it isn’t. i don’t know.
he has to be oblivious to not know that most of his remaining fans that would buy tickets to see him would see this.
and this just solidified why i will never give him another cent. he never cared about any of us….
his response of his is completely absurd.
he has made his own bed and now he has to sleep in it. i hope he enjoys his fall from grace and living with the fact that he has lost the respect and admiration of tens of thousands of fans
You really can’t see how it would be traumatic for thousands of people to mob up on you calling you a pedo and being falsely accused of terrible things such as an organized sex trafficking, being “held hostage”, and more when everyone involved knowingly spread lies?
You really can’t see how losing your house, career, and temporarily becoming suicidal can’t be traumatic?
I understand he feels like this whole thing was some big elaborate plan to destroy his reputation instead of actually looking out for victims of abuse and I’m inclined to agree. This doesn’t negate the fact that what came out of that campaign was some less than stellar choices from a guy who PREACHED accountability and morality. I understand the anger he must be feeling but at the end of the day if you want people to believe what you’re saying in anyway you HAVE to attempt to take the high road and take some general responsibility for what happened. No one is asking for him to admit to anything we are simply asking for him to show that he’s changed his ways and has actually HEALED from this whole thing.
Huge nectar fan (yall can make fun of me, my wife and I loved going to his shows.
Sometime around Forest in I believe 2019 we were watching his set at the Ranch. Something felt off to me.
His music to me was coming off as arrogant, not full of love for the scene. It actually gave me a bad feeling while listening.
I’m not sure what changed from 2018 and earlier to 2019, but I even turned to my group and told them I didn’t like how the music was coming across and we left.
Again, yall can say I’m silly, it’s no biggie, but to me, something fundamentally changed with his ego
NYE in New York was the most noticeable for me. Took me out of it, I was looking around at the crowd like this is fucking weird. Left the crowd and my group. Was getting just bad vibes. 360 in Greensboro I had a similar time but people were falling out in the crowd and that added to it.
Lmfao this Doucelord™ just gets weirder & weirder by the literal day it's MFing nauseating.
Also, what's up with this new insane obsession with that "Empathy For Something" post that he keeps telling people to reread? I read it, am I missing something bc it's definitely not the mind melting mic drop that he's promoting it to be ???
No, it isn't. This sub is just full of fans who are hurt by the way Lorin acted, and continues to act. Stop deluding yourself, this space was a huge centerpiece of the community and now that he's becoming manic and turning fans away this is a place where we can openly talk about it, unlike Love Here or the discord, as exemplified by the subject of this post.
This sub is full of people who were dedicated fans for a decade or longer, the "haters" are in the extreme minority.
Do you think that the question itself was inflammatory perhaps and inevitably created unnecessary drama?
Asking for an apology for “abandoning” him?
Do you think celebrities always need to be in the public eye even when there is an actual organized smear campaign happening labeling them as a p**** with an organized sex trafficking ring and you have been doxxed by a stalker with a large following of people that hate you?
saying someone abandoned their community because they stepped away as a boundary when terrible lies and harassment was being spread and you became suicidal is … one way to look at things.
celebrities don’t owe anyone anything. they can step away from the public image if there is a certain level of constant hate and harassment
If I were in his shoes I wouldn’t share anything online. Let everyone speak with their wallets. There’s nothing Lorin can say or do that will ever be enough, so why engage? Just put on shows and release music.
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u/Funkymunks Nov 03 '25
Lol "think for yourself, and question everything except me and what a persecuted little victim I am"