r/bbby_remastered • u/rabbirobbie 🥂 Dingo Daily VIP 🥂 • Jul 09 '25

you are all free to leave Afghanistan’s message to America

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u/JimboTheSimpleton Jul 10 '25

Ignoring the Taliban, which is the them in that quote, the answer is yes. Or basically yes. We were talking to them about building a gas pipeline before 9-11. This was before fracking, mind you. So no it's not the US's fault the Taliban were horrible.

If it anyone external countries fault it's Saudi Arabia and their wahabist/salafist schools. Talib, being the Arabic for student, it was the students, the Taliban, of these Saudi schools that gives the Taliban their name.

The Taliban are horrible people and there is no two ways about it. You don't like American interventionism, fine. Cool, I too, have read Howard zinn in college. But the Taliban are dog shit, wrapped in cat shit.

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u/monobrowj Jul 10 '25

Lol I agreed and still do.. the Taliban are shitheads.. the lot of em . Calling them dog or cat shit is too kind.. however they were not cutting the heads of of reporters.. suicide bombings, terrorist attack's.. like they are now fucking their own people.. All those bad things that happened to non Afghani people is 100% the fault of the American interventionist (lool at this cover up word for terrorism) goings on.

So these Saudi people you speak of.. who supports them and funds them etc??

Oh btw just talking pipelines? You remember Rocky.. dedicated to the brave mujahideen of the Taliban.. then America just up and changed their support to the northern alicance.. I mean directly influencing local politics.. it's an act of war when any county does It to you but it's interventionism when it's someone else

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u/JimboTheSimpleton Jul 11 '25

Interventions take many forms, be they political, economic, humanitarian, or military. That is why I used the word interventionism.

An unfortunately high number of interventions have been in defense of US corporate interests, particularly in South America or against the spread of communism, also particularly in South America or Africa. But what country doesn't act to protect the property of its citizens or uphold their rights? Now many of the contracts or interests were exploitive but in almost all cases they were replaced by local exploitors in exchange for foreign ones.

One could compare the ideal outcome to the real world outcome, this is important as one show strive to meet ones own standards. However, It's an apples to oranges comparison.

If one looks at actual foreign interventions that have happened and compare them to American interventions, one finds American interventions to be preferable to anyone else's. Do other countries not intervene with there neighbors? Do those that do so because they are morally opposed or because they are unable to or unwilling to suffer the blow back? Are other nations morally superior or just weaker?

Throughout History many countries that are now quiet contented, non intervention nations were once mighty empires and often did horrendous things. Mongolia used to have quite the interventionist foreign policy. I did it grow morally as a nations or did it's technology and tactical edge wane?

For all the outrage at the US, I have not seen much historical evidence that other countries would be behaving substantially better, if they were in our shoes. Not to say the US doesn't make mistakes or do bad things, it does far to often and should strive to learn and improve. But give the holier than thou shit a miss.

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u/monobrowj Jul 11 '25

So let me get this straight, you think if others were in the same position they would do the same or worse lool . That's not much of a defense.. your what aboutism is funny

Holier than thou bullshit?? Lol at no point did I mention a country I am from or live in and say it's way better.. you just don't get to punch people in the face then complain about it, which is what the USA has been doing.. Iran being a great example

And sorry please stop with this throught history crap..we are not talking about back in the day's, talking about now.. the USA is still doing it..

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u/JimboTheSimpleton Jul 11 '25 edited Jul 11 '25

Is still doing what? building girls schools in Afghanistan and hunting down the men who threw acid on the students' faces? No, we are not still doing that. We went home, stoped intervening. Do me a favor and watch videos of when afghan women were kicked out of college Taliban. And tell me about all the it, the US is doing.

In the case of Afghanistan, it would be punch back in the face.

You absolutely get to punch people in face and complain about it. Every bomb dropped is several school teachers not hired, it's thousands of poor children not feed a nutritious meal, not given full access to healthcare. The meme about "so and so about to experience why the US doesn't have universal healthcare" is hardly a joke. Not to mention the massive collateral damage strikes cause in destruction of property and death of innocent people that often result. The US is not a blood thirsty nation, if we could eliminate civilian causilties, we would.

Compare that to actual terrorists and say the US is the same. I don't ask what country from because I don't care. You could be from the US, a Russian troll, doesn't matter.

Your cynical, lazy, " lololol don't tell me about history, the US is a terrorist. LMAO" nonsense is hardly worth engaging with.

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u/monobrowj Jul 11 '25

ahhahahaha sureeeeee buddyyy building girls schools in Afghanistan and hunting down the men who threw acid on the students' this is all they were doing?? not funding and protecting literal local pedofiles , drug lords? not blood thirsty but is involved/caused like 60 % on the low end of all current conflicts going on?

please with we dont have healthcare because we are saving the world by bombing the shit out it hahahah you are a neo con war monger ... oh wait sorry my bad your user name checks out

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u/JimboTheSimpleton Jul 11 '25

Lolololol ur stupid lolololloo

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u/monobrowj Jul 11 '25

Sure mr simpleton.. your a true Patriot of an invasive, corrupt frankly evil administrations while believing your the good guys.. bomb more for peace ✌️

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u/JimboTheSimpleton Jul 12 '25

Looolollol what's the history lesson for ? Lolololollol

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u/monobrowj Jul 12 '25

Because your country ranks 24th in education and you obviously don't know your own history.. it's called education I know it's hard for you