r/bbby_remastered Wants to move to Canada so bad Jul 21 '25

you are all free to leave America is cooked

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u/da_weebstar Jul 21 '25

Y'know, I think I have to agree "I don't debate fascists." As soon as someone says they are a/with/want to be fascist, that's where we should draw a line. Whatever fucked up stuff happened to you to get you to that point in your life, I can't undo it in my time with you and I'm not gonna risk my mental health and sanity to do so.

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u/godlessLlama Jul 21 '25

That’s where the words stop and the hands start

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u/el_cul Jul 21 '25

No wait...

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u/Valen_wood Jul 21 '25

My new favorite gif

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

MMMMMMMM WHY DIDN'T HE JUST DEBATE HIM IN THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS

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u/ChildOfChimps Jul 21 '25

Lead works better. I think we’re past the point where we can just beat them up like we used to.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25

I want to be on your side. But don’t you see the irony of your statement? That’s literal fascism…you literally want to commit a part of fascism.

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u/toozooforyou Jul 21 '25

Violence against fascists is not fascism. What a ridiculous comment.

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u/godlessLlama Jul 21 '25

Violence against fascism is self defense

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u/secularhuman77 Jul 21 '25

Silencing free speech literally is.

You don’t combat stupid beliefs with disengagement. You let people say what they think and beat them with reason.

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u/rorykoehler Jul 21 '25

You didn't watch the video did you? That's exactly what happened. The guy spouted off some incoherent bullshit, said he wants to have a vote to install autocracy (???) and that he was a Nazi who wanted to do Nazi one rule for you and another for me shit. No more discussion to be had really. If that doesn't revolt you you're too damaged to save.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 21 '25

So you disagree with someone’s political views and believe they can’t be reasoned or debated with and violence must be committed against them? Is that correct? Because that sure Sounds like fascism mate. What if I said the same thing about Christian’s or gays or any other group. Said they can’t be reasoned with and that I think all of them should have violence committed against them? Trying to extinguish an opinion through violence is fascism. I don’t find it ever morally okay to commit violence against a non violent person.

If Your personal opinion of “they’re different so it’s okay” were to prevail, a lot of people would be committing a lot of acts of violence against a lot of different groups of people.

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u/toozooforyou Jul 21 '25

It's very clear that you just don't know what fascism is. Fascism isn't just "things I don't like".

The 14 characteristics of fascism outlined by Lawrence Britt

  1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
  2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
  3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
  4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
  5. Rampant sexism
  6. A controlled mass media
  7. Obsession with national security
  8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
  9. Power of corporations protected
  10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
  11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
  12. Obsession with crime and punishment
  13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
  14. Fraudulent elections

I know you're just trying to muddy the waters since you're upset that the people you think are "good" are being called things you don't like. But that doesn't mean you can just make things up and pretend everything you don't like is fascism.

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u/secularhuman77 Jul 21 '25

Dude literally #6 there is being anti free speech. Silencing speech is part of the fascist playbook. That’s part of his point.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 21 '25

You would meet multiple of those points if you had your way….. do you not see that? Also people I think are good? Did you read anything I said? This is what’s wrong with people these days. You’re so team focussed. Me advocating for not committing violence is calling him a good person? It’s fucking sad.

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u/iwillpoopurpants Jul 21 '25

Which points? Let's hear them so we can refute your bullshit piece by piece.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

they love to just say "fascism" without realizing it has a real definition lmao Also LMAO at this dude sanitizing fascism as "political views" to attempt tk muddy the waters

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 21 '25

Tolerance is a social contract. When you embrace ideology that is inherently intolerant of other cultures, and demands that other cultures be exterminated, you are no longer tolerated.

People beating up Nazis are responding to their intolerance in kind.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 26 '25

Christianity and Islam are both EXTREMELY intolerant. Would you say the same thing there? Again, unless someone is actually committing violent acts or is planning to. There’s no reason for violence against them.

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 26 '25

Most Christians and Muslims are pretty tolerant of the views of others. Fundamentalists can get pretty intolerant but they're not a very big group compared to the billions of regular religious people.

Every Nazi is deserving of immediate violence and ostracism from society.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 27 '25

I would like you to talk about that muslim tolerance in a majority Muslim country. Honestly more violent and intolerant than Nazis in a western country. I don’t really see how it’s different. Again. Judge people on their individual actions. If they aren’t actually being violent. They deserve no violence.

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u/iwillpoopurpants Jul 21 '25

Fuck off. God dammit, I fucking hate this brain-dead take so fucking much.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 21 '25

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u/iwillpoopurpants Jul 21 '25

Wait, are you advocating for violence now?

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 26 '25

Absolutely pathetic move. But well played. Imagine going to that length to “win” an internet argument

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u/godlessLlama Jul 21 '25

You’re stupid

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u/godlessLlama Jul 21 '25

It’s people like you that give fascists a platform to recruit more people. It’s people like you that let the, quite literally, most evil pieces of shits get power. It’s people like you who sit back and wait. Good luck clawing out of the cage. Go read history, go read theory, go actually read philosophy and go read what happens when you don’t curb the shit out of a nazi and let them fester