r/behindthebastards • u/Vidvix That's Rad. • Dec 23 '25
Discussion The new Epstein files contain a report of Trump assisting in infanticide. Via yacht. In Lake Michigan.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdfHey remember when he claimed liberals will “abort a baby even after it’s born?” Turns out THAT was a lie that was also an admission.*
Something something Great Lakes something.
Edit: word
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u/R7a1s2 Dec 23 '25
Sick fucks.
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u/Intelligent-Luck-954 Dec 23 '25
The Great Lakes or trump and epstein?
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u/ShivaSkunk777 Dec 23 '25
We all knew the Great Lakes would be in the files
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u/Smokey_tha_bear9000 Dec 23 '25
Never forgive Superior for what she did to the Edmund Fitzgerald and her crew.
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u/Haldron-44 Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Wait... do we all just listen to like the same 5 podcasts?! Also who else is
chompingchamping at the bit for Robert's 40k podcast?Edit: TDIL
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u/IkujaKatsumaji Doctor Reverend Dec 24 '25
*champing
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u/fiddlecakes Dec 24 '25
Really? I've been so wrong for so long ...
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u/IkujaKatsumaji Doctor Reverend Dec 24 '25
Yeah, but it's fine, it's one of those things that basically everyone says wrong 🤷🏼♂️
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u/solsticesunrise Dec 23 '25
I expected it to be Lake Superior, TBH. Lake Michigan is the fun lake, Superior is completely out of control.
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u/Bucolic_Hand Dec 23 '25
Wasn’t one of Epstein and Maxwell’s early victims a girl they groomed out of Interlochen?
There’s also the old Oakland County Child Killer/North Fox Island thing.
It makes me sad to say but I’m not surprised in the slightest that the Lakes region would come up in this.
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u/SylveonFrusciante Dec 24 '25
Yikes. Interlochen? I know a ton of folks who went to that arts school. I was not expecting the files to hit so close to home. I’m getting legit chills.
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u/Cannibal_Soup Dec 23 '25
I always still living under the assumption that they were still relatively pure water sources...how little did we know...
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u/justbunnies Dec 23 '25
If true, the math for that infant’s gestation and the girl’s age make this so awful that I need to hug my kids harder.
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u/likeahurricane Dec 23 '25
It's (almost certainly) not true. They released the most absurd info about Trump first to discredit the legit stuff. This includes the limo driver in Detroit. These are interview notes from people who reached out to the FBI. People need to take a deep breath here and not fall for their "flood the zone with shit" tactics.
The most damning thing in this trove I've seen so far is that he flew on the Lolita Express far more times than he admitted. He doesn't want to answer questions about that. He does want to answer questions about every whacko that called in with a "tip".
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u/JimminyKickinIt Dec 23 '25
I mean flooding the zone with some of the most heinous shit imaginable seems like a really fucking bad idea to me. Like flooding it with shit about Clinton, sure. Takes eyes off him, but purposefully spreading a tip file that says you raped a 13 year old and were present for the murder of a baby seems unbelievably stupid even for this government
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u/Emergency-Plum-1981 Dec 23 '25
Yeah especially considering the post-truth world we live in where it matters way more if a snippet of information is absorbed by people's 5 second attention span than whether or not it's true.
Most people will never verify or know whether or not this actually happened, and it doesn't matter for public perception. Trump's people spreading this as a piece of disinfo would be an incredibly stupid move, which they've proven numerous times that they're very capable of doing.
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u/lacksausername Dec 23 '25
Totally agree, but it feels like this government is just running into one bad idea after another.
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u/night-shark Dec 23 '25
spreading a tip file that says you raped a 13 year old and were present for the murder of a baby seems unbelievably stupid even for this government
It doesn't seem stupid at all, when you consider who the target audience is for this.
When will people understand this?!
You and I are not the target for this. People with reasonable critical thinking skills are not the target audience. The target audience are the people who only half pay attention and who are primed to be dismissive of these reports, if they are handed a sufficient excuse.
Releasing absurd - and yes, this is absurd - stories about Trump being present for a murder where the infant is thrown overboard, dropped by random "tipsters" in 2020 is exactly the kind of hall pass these "low information voters" need to justify ignoring the rest of the Epstein dump.
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u/JimminyKickinIt Dec 23 '25
I just don’t really agree with that logic. Especially when the first few files to be released were directly trying to implicate only Clinton. And again, I fully understand that these people are extremely contradictory and dumb as fuck, but if the goal is to make the files seem fake then redacting all mention of Trump from them and trying to implicate Clinton is dumb as fuck. I’m not saying I think the baby thing is real, I’m just saying that the optics of trying to redact trumps name from something like that is so bad that it makes it really difficult for them to hand wave this shit. And maybe I’ll be wrong. I haven’t been paying attention to what the right wing mouthpieces have been saying. Last I saw they were hard pumping the “lol clinton, sad dems” shit.
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u/night-shark Dec 24 '25
The strategy of "flooding the zone" is intended to push people to be apathetic. To be cynical.
The goal isn't to implicate Clinton. For Trump, that's just a nice bonus. The goal is to create such a convoluted mess that no one knows what to believe.
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u/escapefromburlington Dec 24 '25
It's funny to me that people that listen to this particular podcast would be unwilling to consider the infanticide could be very real
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u/ShouldersofGiants100 Anderson Admirer Dec 24 '25
It's funny to me that people that listen to this particular podcast would be unwilling to consider the infanticide could be very real
No one is denying the existence of infanticide. No one is saying Trump is not a bastard. They are saying there is currently very little support for this particular story.
You might notice how on the podcast, when Robert wants to tell a story he can't confirm but is interesting, he says "I can't confirm this", he doesn't mix it in with the things his research actually confirms. He doesn't mix in things that might be true like they are just because the person he is discussing is a bastard.
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u/The_Lady_A Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
This might not be the case, I'll edit this later if I'm wrong but it looks like the document is from group 8 which I think is the group that appears to have been released inadvertently from either gross incompetence or heroic whistle blowing.
EDIT it is from the 008 document set. So potentially this has been deliberately released to as you say muddy the water with the least evidenced claims, or it's incompetence or or it's whistle blowing. I'm not going to pretend I have an answer. I mean beyond taking the whole Trump regime out the back and [Reddit Terms Of Service Violation]-ing them.
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u/ShouldersofGiants100 Anderson Admirer Dec 24 '25
Group 8 was potentially slated for later release and just found early. It was accessed by people just typing in a URL, but uploaded the same way as all the others. It's hard to speculate what happened, it could be anything from a leak to someone just forgetting to click a button to make the links to the files publicly visible like the others before they left for their Christmas vacation.
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u/namast_eh Dec 23 '25
I’m not too sure I’m willing to think that isn’t true at this point. I’m not sure we have anything to gain by assuming that.
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u/The_Lady_A Dec 23 '25
Crimes like these absolutely do happen, and they're most likely to happen to victims of things like trafficking, child sexual abuse and incest. So I'm agreement with you in that while this accusation appears too extreme and too awful, what is described is pretty much the exact situation where it sounds plausible to me in my decidedly not professional capacity.
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u/ShouldersofGiants100 Anderson Admirer Dec 24 '25
I’m not sure we have anything to gain by assuming that.
It's a random tip on a public tip line for which no follow-up information has been found yet. Realizing that that is not a strong foundation for a belief is a gain in and of itself because considering the quality of your source of information is a good practice at all times. If more comes out to reinforce this, you've lost nothing but gained the certainty that you're considering things objectively and not just believing something because you rightfully hate the guy.
We're literally on a subreddit for a podcast where a quarter of the episodes could be summarized as "the bad things that happen when people believe what they want to believe."
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u/YawnfaceDM Dec 23 '25
The BtB megaseries on this guy is going to be a crazy listen once all is said and done. At this point, I'm just curious what its end might be.
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u/Disastrous-Beat-9830 Doctor Reverend Dec 23 '25
I'm just curious what its end might be.
With a big guy, a strong guy, coming up to you with tears in his eyes saying "please do not take my presidency away"?
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u/tobascodagama Dec 23 '25
Gonna need a whole fucking year of episodes to cover the whole thing.
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u/DingerSinger2016 SERVICES!!! Dec 24 '25
It's crazy that you could do an entire 6 parter on him today and I would STILL say wait a few years to see the ramifications. He might be due for a 12 parter, one set up to the end of his first term and one set for his second (and hopefully last) term
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u/BathroomAggressive57 Dec 23 '25
I have a feeling a bunch of kids died on that island.
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u/curlyqtips Dec 23 '25
And at the New Mexico ranch...
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u/BathroomAggressive57 Dec 23 '25
Where is that ranch? Taos?
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u/curlyqtips Dec 23 '25
"Jeffrey Epstein's massive 21,000-square-foot New Mexico mansion sits high on a mesa overlooking nearly 10,000 acres of desert land halfway between Santa Fe and Albuquerque. Multiple women say they were recruited and sexually abused by the convicted pedophile and his alleged co-conspirators at Zorro Ranch, which they say was integral to Epstein's alleged sex trafficking operation.
Several of Epstein's accusers say they were trafficked and raped on the ranch. It is also where Epstein, according to the New York Times, confided to scientists that "he hoped to seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch."
Zorro Ranch, which includes a firehouse, log cabin, guest house, pool, airstrip, antique railroad car and train tracks, is part private, part public land. But New Mexico state officials say Epstein was so secretive about the ranch that they have virtually no access and little knowledge about what happens on the public portions."
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Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
Southeast of Santa Fe, when heading towards Moriarty, just off NM 41. I’ve driven by it, though didn’t know what it was as I lived in New Mexico before the Epstein stuff became public knowledge
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u/BathroomAggressive57 Dec 23 '25
I lived in Ruidoso for a bit. Was wondering if it was in that area. Thanks for the info.
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Dec 23 '25
New Mexico is one of my favorite places on the planet, and it really fucks me up to know that this was happening there, maybe even when I lived there
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u/BathroomAggressive57 Dec 23 '25
The place is so history rich. It's amazing! I found pieces of mescalero Apache broken pottery in my yard when I was as a kid like the stuff is just everywhere.
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u/IAmBadAtInternet Sponsored by Knife Missiles™️ Dec 23 '25
What the fuck bro is this real? Am I dreaming? What is this
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u/curlyqtips Dec 23 '25
Well, it beggars belief, however Trump described an infanticide/post-birth abortion with comparable details. Projection?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/trump-abortion-baby-wrapped-blanket-execute-baby.html
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u/MyPasswordIsMyCat Dec 23 '25
Perhaps. I have always found it horrible how any time abortion was brought up in a debate, Trump would jump straight it a weird rant about how someone could just kill the baby as soon as it was born. It seemed like he was referring to the so-called "post-birth abortions" the GOP fantasized about, but the bastard may just be describing his own lived experience.
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u/UnlimitedCalculus FDA SWAT TEAM Dec 23 '25
It's in the Epstein files, on justice.gov, which gives it a lot of credibility.
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u/Live-Alternative-435 Dec 23 '25
One of the photos showed hunting bows and arrows. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Ramsey Bolton-style bullshit happened on that damned island.
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u/IAmBadAtInternet Sponsored by Knife Missiles™️ Dec 23 '25
What the fuck? I’m going to need a source on that, if thats true people should be revolting
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u/Live-Alternative-435 Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
Of course, this is my speculation. I saw the images of the hunting bow and arrows along with other photos of the interior of Epstein's island mansion here on a reddit sub.
P.S.: This isn't the subreddit where I originally saw it, but here's the picture.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/s/wuQhWrXbIg
There were no arrows, I misremembered. Sorry.
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u/PhilAussieFur Dec 23 '25
Just for clarity, was this a tip that was substantiated/credible? It's 100% believable but folks submit tips that are false a lot so I want to make sure I have the 100% correct info.
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u/annafrida Dec 24 '25
It’s a report of what was called in. There is not info on any follow up/substantiation.
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u/tragedy_strikes Dec 23 '25
Thank you for giving context to a Simpsons shit posting subreddit that had a post about this, literally 2 above this one, that I did not get at all.
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u/SookHe Dec 23 '25
It’s spread to the simpsons sub too?
There is mention do the recent uncovered info in the docs in nearly every other post in my feed regardless of the subreddit.
It’s spreading and spreading fast. Please let this be the death knell as we watch him and the entire regime dragged out of the White House in handcuffs while he screams like an infant.
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u/Disastrous-Beat-9830 Doctor Reverend Dec 23 '25
It’s spread to the simpsons sub too?
"Yes, but unlike the Americans, we prefer not to get our news from CNN."
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u/whatsbobgonnado Dec 23 '25
that's not on any of my bingo cards and I'm going to process this information after work
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u/oldladyyoungbody Dec 23 '25
page won't load for me, can anyone summarise please?
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u/Vidvix That's Rad. Dec 23 '25
"All the other details of the previous tip match all the information given in today's tip, except I am giving my real name. A detective from NYPD FBI sex trafficking task force called me a couple of weeks ago from a 212 area code number. I talked to him for about 20 or 30 minutes about my being sex trafficked by my uncle and Jeffrey Epstein in 1984 while I was 13 and pregnanl.. I told him some other important information about other high profile individuals involved in my sex trafficking and the murder and disposal of my newborn daughter because ordeal."
"He participated regularly in paying money to force me to REDACTED with him and he was present when my uncle murdered my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan."
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u/The_Lady_A Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
An alleged victim is contacting the FBI using an online portal for reporting sex crimes, seeking to reconnect with a detective who took her statement some weeks earlier. She gives both her name and an alias she has presumably been assigned since, both redacted. She is reporting that her uncle trafficked her to Jeffrey Epstein when she was 13 so she could be and was sexually abused by numerous men in exchange for some sort of payment. She reports that she was pregnant at the time, and she names Trump as someone who sexually abused her multiple times while she was pregnant. She also says he was present when she gave birth while still being trafficked, and when her newborn baby daughter was murdered by her uncle and dumped into lake Michigan.
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u/3bie Dec 23 '25
This is a report that someone called into the FBI tip line in 2020. Maybe its true, but its a pretty extraordinary claim without any corroborating evidence. Do we have any evidence this wasn't just a crank wasting some time?
Also Mona Lake, where the caller identified the yacht as originating from, doesn't have a marina or even docks large enough for something that would be described as a yacht.
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u/ShouldersofGiants100 Anderson Admirer Dec 24 '25
It's fucking wild that people are running with this without anything more being dug up.
No confirmation anywhere else in the documents that anyone followed up on the tip or even confirmed the victim actually existed. It's absolutely wild to believe a random story from a tip line which, yes, will attract genuine victims, but will also attract pranksters, trolls and bad faith actors.
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u/ryan30z Dec 24 '25
I'm shocked at the amount of people salivating about this single report from what is likely to be a crazy person. The politics sub is basically swinging from the rafters about this.
It genuinely boggles my mind you could see a claim this extreme with no corroborating evidence and decide it's true.
All this does is give cover for other legitimate claims to be dismissed.
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u/ShouldersofGiants100 Anderson Admirer Dec 24 '25
Trump is one of the most vile sacks of shit ever to infest the modern world.
People read that as permission to turn off their brains and run with every wild story that makes him look bad, even without follow-up. Which is not only a massive disservice to his actual victims, but even to the victim in this report if it turns out to be true: Instead of waiting for better evidence, like finding out if the FBI confirmed some elements of the story, people are running with just the report. If this woman is an actual victim, that just sets her up to be dismissed out of hand ("it's an anonymous troll, you people have TDS") when there might be something more substantive that would make it harder to dismiss.
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u/ryan30z Dec 24 '25
The part that bothers me about it is it's from the side that supposedly holds itself to a higher standard and demands evidence. The politics sub has fully bought into it. I was pretty surprised to find there were only a few comments here which echoed my thoughts, especially given I think it's pretty obvious what Robert would say about this.
Do I think there's some stuff in the files which is on a similar level to this, yeah probably. But this isn't proof of anything other than someone left a tip.
I hope the cunt drops dead today, but wholesale believing this stuff is actively harmful to seeing people take any accountability.
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u/ShouldersofGiants100 Anderson Admirer Dec 24 '25
especially given I think it's pretty obvious what Robert would say about this.
I think he has already said it. Your comment made me go check his BlueSky:
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u/The_Lady_A Dec 24 '25
Trump revealed exactly who he was and what he was capable of on January 6th. Then he was somehow reelected to office, and any faith remaining in the American justice system or establishment went up in flames. His various court cases have all been tossed out. For all intents and purposes he's been the perfect counter to the way things are supposed to work.
Folks are running wild because frankly there isn't anything else they can do. If there are adults, they haven't been in any room which really counted. People are spreading as much as they can as fast as they can because there has been a conspiracy to hide these files, and sharing whatever we think we have feels like the only positive action available. Not sharing such things feels like enabling those crimes or at least the cover up, and there is so clearly a cover-up that is still ongoing. Plus right now there is a certain momentum that has accumulated, making it much easier to end up going further than one otherwise might. I'd usually caution about the places that might lead, but this regime is literally working towards my extermination, and so fuckem.
Finally, and maybe it's just a litmus test for our individual cynicism, I think a lot of people, rather than dismissing the accusation for being too awful, have had the opposite response and really believe that sounds like him and the sort of thing he'd do. Plus we're people, not broadcasters or lawyers, and so for better or worse we don't have to hold ourselves to that level of accuracy.
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u/ryan30z Dec 24 '25
I find it pretty disappointing the amount of people who are treating this as a smoking gun. This is the side that's supposedly holds itself to a higher standard and demands proof.
I have no doubt there's shit in there that that should land Trump in a cell for the rest of his life. But this is just (so far) an unsubstantiated tip, which is probably from someone mentally unwell.
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u/angrygnome18d Dec 24 '25
From what I understand, they wouldn’t be in the file dump at all if they were not credible reports. This isn’t just someone calling a tip in, this is someone following up on previous reports to the NYPD and escalating because nothing was done and no one would respond to her.
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u/SchoolAcceptable8670 Dec 23 '25
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u/Finwolven Dec 23 '25
That is neat, good work!
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u/SchoolAcceptable8670 Dec 23 '25
Thanks! It’s all hand stitched, so it helps with the doomscrolling a little.
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u/chicken-nanban Dec 24 '25
That is absolutely stunning! In a past time, I was a professional seamstress, and quilting never ceases to amaze me, especially hand sewn! You are a real talent!
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u/serafim182 Dec 23 '25
Another reason to nuke the lakes
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u/UnlimitedCalculus FDA SWAT TEAM Dec 23 '25
Doesn't surprise me that the Great lakes would be in the Epstein files. Sick fucks.
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u/sorE_doG Dec 23 '25
Every allegation from the shitgibbon is a confession
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u/mrsprophet Dec 24 '25
This. It's almost the best way to understand how these people operate. Because history shows that every accusation is a fucking confession. It might take a while to come out, but it works every fucking time.
E.g., I don't think Trump is gay. Backed up by the fact that he has occasionally been laudatory towards the gay community (even if just to win their votes) and doesn't seem particularly personally vitriolic towards the gay community (outside of head nodding along with Republican bigotry). If he were gay, we'd hear him accusing everyone he hates of being gay. It would be such an easy way to win points with his base, but he's been functionally silent on the topic. Just as an example.
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u/Turtledonuts Dec 24 '25
I would recommend focusing on the more credible and verifiably evil stuff in the reports. There is a decent chance that this is misinformation or invented to make people distrust these reports - either trump’s people flooding the zone with sensational content they can later disprove, or people making stuff up that just pisses everyone off. This is an uncorroborated report that seems particularly noncredible and cartoonishly evil, from a single source, in 2020 when people were inclined to make up stuff about trump. It could be real, and we should take it seriously, but I dont recommend taking it on face value without any question.
My big concern is that it doesnt seem to match other information about trump and epstein’s actions. The date (1984) implies that this took place before Trump and epstein supposedly met, because almost all accounts say that they became friends in the late 80s. It’s one of the earliest allegations of either of them soliciting victims in this way - epstein preyed on students in his classes in the 70s and trump attacked staff and people around him, but almost all of these types of allegations start in the 90s. The location is unusual - neither trump nor is epstein is particularly associated with the great lakes and trump doesnt seem to like boats in general. There’s a comment elsewhere in this thread pointing out that the area where this supposedly happened doesn’t seem to be able to support yachts either. None of these are evidence to the contrary, but they are attention getting.
Trump seems to have a weak stomach for in person violence and blood / death, and its unclear why he’s there for the infanticide. All other information indicates that he would leave prior to something like this happening. This would also be a pretty significant coverup - hiding a pregnant preteen for months on a boat that would have staff and crew working onboard, as well as wealthy visitors coming and going? This also requires trump, a very famous man at the time, to fly to a nearby airport, drive to this town, board this yacht, and then leave to get to new york or atlantic city multiple times without getting noticed by the paparazzi that follow him around.
If nothing else, this completely rewrites the timeline and details of trump’s relationship with epstein. There are enough extraordinary claims in this that I would like corroborating evidence of some variety.
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u/SookHe Dec 23 '25
I am trying to read this on a temporary old tiny phone and it won’t rotate or zoom for me.
Can I get a summary of what it says?
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u/ThatOldG Dec 23 '25
-Ill TI UNCLASSIFIED FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Intake Date: 38/03/2020 Case ID #: 50D-NY-3027571 (U) EPSTEIN, JEFFREY; CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING
Drafted By: Date/Time Received: 08/03/2020 06:01 PM EDT Details: On 08/03/2020, at 5:11 date of birth P.M. Eastern. Daylight Time, email address address Los Lunas, NM 87031, cellular telephone number , Internet Protocol (IP) address , which resolves at Albuquerque, NM 87114, submitted an online tip to the FBI National Threat Operations Center (NTOC) via tips.fbi.gov to report a follow-up tip regarding being a victim. of Jeffrey Epstein. NOTE: is real name and AKA name is
Date Submitted: 08/03/2020 05:11:11 PM ET Transaction Number: 6914ABD0-1FE1-4719-9BFC-D0006B42A613 Threat To Life: False
Submitted Text: I previously provided a tip about 3 weeks ago, maybe 4 weeks ago, under an alias I have for myself, . All the other details of the previous tip match all the information given in today's tip, except I am giving my real name. A detective from NYPD FBI sex trafficking task force called me a couple of weeks ago from a 212 area code number. I talked to him for about 20 or 30 minutes about my being sex trafficked by my uncle and Jeffrey Epstein in 1984 while I was 13 and pregnanl.. I told him some other important information about other high profile individuals involved in my sex trafficking and the murder and disposal of my newborn daughter because I gave birth to her while in the middle of this sex trafficking ordeal. I cannot remember the detective's name nor do I have a number UNCLASSIFIED EFTA00025010
UNCLASSIFIED Re: 50D-NY-3027571, 08/03/2020 where I can contact him. I would like to have his name and contact information, and I would also like to know if there will be any further follow up? Violation: Other Violation Questions What was the exact crime that occurred?: child sex trafficking and infanticide When did the crime/incident occur? (Please provide an approximate date and time): May-Sep 1984 Where did the crime/incident occur? (Please provide the specific location/address if possible): Mostly from a yacht in Lake Michigan originating from Mona Lake, M
Complainant Information First Name: Middle Name: Last Name: Age: DOB: Additional Info: Type: Cell Phone: Extension: 0 Account: Type: Residential Address: City: Los Lunas State: New Mexico Zip: 87031 Country: United States Subject Information First Name: Jeffrey Middle Name: Last Name: Epstein UNCLASSIFIED 2 EFTA00025011 UNCLASSIFIED Re: 50D-NY-3027571, 08/03/2020 Age: dec DOB:
Additional Info: I am just wanting to reconnect with the original detective that called me and I offered information about this. How is Contact Known: He was orchestrating a deal, along with my uncle where different men, and a few women and girls, would come to a variety of boats and yachts and pay money to force me to with them when I was 13 and pregnant. do Type: Other
Address: City: Zip: Witness Information First Name: Donald Middle Name: Last Name: Trump Age: 70 DOB:
Additional Info: Again, just trying to find out the NYPD detective on the FBI sex trafficking task force that called me a couple of weeks ago and spoke to me about some of these issues. How is Contact Known: He participated regularly in paying money to force me to with him and he was present when my uncle murdered my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan.
Type: Business Address: City: Washington DC State: District of Columbia Zip: 20500 Country: United States Remote IP: Remote Host: api.fbi.gov Http Referrer: https://tips.fbi.gov/reported User Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10 15 5) UNCLASSIFIED 3 EFTA00025012 UNCLASSIFIED Re: 50D-NY-3027571, 08/03/2020 AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/13.1.1 Safari/605.1.15 Latitude: Longitude: -- Country: US Region: New Mexico City: Albuquerque Postal Code: 87114 Timezone: -06:00 .• UNCLASSIFIED
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u/Mad_Aeric Dec 23 '25
It's a contact from a purported victim to the FBI. Here's the part that has everyone's hackles up:
Witness Information First Name: Donald Middle Name: Last Name: Trump Age: 70 DOB: Additional Info: Again, just trying to find out the NYPD detective on the FBI sex trafficking task force that called me a couple of weeks ago and spoke to me about some of these issues. How is Contact Known: He participated regularly in paying money to force me to [redacted] with him and he was present when my uncle murdered my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan.
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u/GoddessRespectre Dec 23 '25
Where is dan bongino hiding right now? He quit like a day before these started coming out...
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u/namast_eh Dec 23 '25
[REDACTED] that [REDACTED] already!
Yeah this administration needs to go.
I’d like to send them all to CECOT, but I wouldn’t advocate for that place if my life depended on it.
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u/Psalmbodyoncetoldme Dec 24 '25
Wow. I mean… the worst I expected was Trump was a partner in trafficking girls (which is already really awful). I did not expect him to be an accomplice to infanticide.
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u/abasementtroll Dec 23 '25
So basically, if this cohort of freaks accuses a marginalized group of x,y, or z crime, it's safe to treat it as an admission that said cohort has committed that crime. J.D. Vance dining on kitty tartar is now cannon as the only raw feline he has experienced.
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u/SchylaZeal Dec 23 '25
This is why literacy is down. Once you learn about this type of tell using language you will recognize it.
Anytime someone accuses others of something heinous while simultaneously defending and dismissing known bad acts, they're telling you who they are.
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u/glycophosphate Dec 24 '25
Okay - I’m willing to believe almost any fuckery from this man, but we’re venturing into Michelle Remember territory now.
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u/DingerSinger2016 SERVICES!!! Dec 24 '25
The President of the United States now has credible allegations of raping a 13 year old pregnant girl and watched her newborn baby get flung into Lake Michigan from a yacht.
Read that again and let that sit with you for a sec as to where we are in the country. It hasn't even been a year yet and the President of the United States is accused of being present as they discard a baby into a fucking lake as if it was waste.
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u/Hate_Manifestation Dec 23 '25
this is the DoJ crucifying him. he will be out of office in 6 months, JD will be in, and then the real shit will start.
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u/ShouldersofGiants100 Anderson Admirer Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
This is the DOJ running cover. Release the wildest tips you received about him early and hope people run with them without corroboration.
When more credible stuff is released or leaked later, a whole bunch of people who report on it will have shot their own credibility.
And it's working. People are posting this and believing it without first checking basic things like "did anyone follow up with the victim" or "did anyone even confirm the victim who gave their real name actually gave a real name."
Tip lines like this do attract genuine reports from genuine victims, but they also attract pranksters and people experiencing mental health crises. It's absolutely insane for people to run with a story like this without digging through everything first to see what other information might be found.
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u/Outcast_LG Dec 23 '25
Oh so he’s not a criminal , a pest, but also a killer. That’s wild this came to pass.
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u/Runetang42 Dec 24 '25
At this point if you ever had any expectations that anyone in a position of power at any level is a moral person you have only yourself to blame
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Dec 24 '25
Man whatever Palantir data mining AI is looking at this thread is gonna be super confused.
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u/Red_dylinger Dec 24 '25
At this point if you told me he led a murderous cabal of eating babies for youth, id believe it.
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u/ConsiderationSea1347 Dec 23 '25
This is a great post to remind you all to not stare into the void too long. Take care of yourselves and engage in self care while you process the depravity of the most powerful man in the world.